How important is splitting up muscle groups in days?

I'm still a gym newbie but everyone seems to have a plan. They'll do certain muscle sets on certain days or switch up between days of cardio and days of weights, but I'm not one of these people. I go every day, about 25mins on cardio and 35 on the weights machines, but I have no pattern or plan at all. I'm obviously not going to obsessively work one muscle whilst not doing another - so does it really matter?

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  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    Yes, you need a plan. Exercising without a plan is ****arounditis, a deadly gym disease.

    A couple of recommendations I would give you is to limit strength training to 3-5 days per week. Your body needs rest to rebuild and recover. And look up an established, popular program that fits into your strength training goals. I recommend Stronglifts 5x5 for newbies as it is very simple and linear, with a ton of resources to help you with form on the five lifts it recommends.
  • bostonwolf
    bostonwolf Posts: 3,038 Member
    I do a full bodyweight routine, so I just take a day of rest (at least) between lifting workouts. I'll do some cardio on non-lifting days.

    If you are doing a split routine there are any number of splits to do.

    Legs
    Back Biceps
    Chest/Triceps/Shoulders

    Mix in some abs here in there. I'm sure others will post different options. Experiement and use what works best for you.
  • husseycd
    husseycd Posts: 814 Member
    Also recommend Strong Lifts. As I've gotten more experienced, I've added other exercises to address weak points. *cough*glutes*cough*. But Strong Lifts, or Starting Strength, etc. are great places to start.
  • contingencyplan
    contingencyplan Posts: 3,639 Member
    Working in splits is generally only ideal for people who:

    A. Are at an intermediate to advanced level (beginners, regardless of goal, ALWAYS see greater benefit from full body workouts)

    B. Are training more for aesthetic gains (such as significant muscle mass gain) than functional (people concerned with functional strength or athletic gains generally see better results from sticking with either circuit training or compound based lifting programs, which are usually full body but there are exceptions)

    So, if you're a beginner just starting out, or are at an intermediate level and looking to focus primarily on functional gains rather than aesthetic, you're generally better off sticking to an established beginner-level program such as Stronglifts 5x5, NROLFW, Starting Strength, or any of the others along those lines.
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    It's not important at all.

    Stick with full body training 3x week if you want to get optimal results. When it stops being optimal, then you can look to splitting things out.


    TL;DR: If it was important for you, you'd know about it already.
  • natecooper75
    natecooper75 Posts: 72 Member
    I think it is a matter of opinion for the most part. The reason I don't have a split routine comes down to what my goals are and how much time I have available to go to the gym each week. I'm not really training for aesthetics as my primary goal. My main pursuit is strength and any aesthetic gains are just a bonus. The reason I say it this way is that I like to hit a higher frequency(number of times doing that lift) each week. I feel like this gives me the best opportunity to achieve my goals.

    I personally view body part splits as a bodybuilding tool. They seem to be better suited for "enhanced" lifters that can batter that body part once a week and have solid recovery.

    The main take away from this should be that you should establish what your goals are and research what routine allows you to hit those goals. Stick to it and don't jump around. Progress doesn't happen overnight.
  • I met with a trainer when I first joined a gym 6 weeks ago. Before that I was doing zumba mostly with some exercise videos.

    I am a complete newbie to the gym, so I had no idea where to start or what to do- I have been following her instructions exactly.

    The trainer said since I wanna lose about 40 pounds I should do 30 minutes of cardio three days a week, and then she gave me a full body routine for the other half of my workout. For the past six weeks I have been doing couch to five k on the treadmill, and then this weight routine for 30 minutes.

    On non weight lifting days I do 60 minutes of cardio. This is usually 30 minutes on the elliptical and then 30 minutes on the bike or walking on the treadmill.

    As for results- I was weighing myself every day and the scale had not moved AT ALL in three weeks. Mind you, I am eating mostly clean and logging every bite I take. So I said screw the scale. I haven't stepped on it since. I am giving myself til the end of September to weigh again and redo my measurements.

    I feel AMAZING-- that is good enough for me right now. And I am really running. Best part of the whole thing is I am increasing my weights every couple of weeks and I am shocked at how strong I am getting.

    Many gyms give you a free personal training session, so if you can do that, I would. Ask them for a routine and write it all down. Good luck!
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    I'm still a gym newbie but everyone seems to have a plan. They'll do certain muscle sets on certain days or switch up between days of cardio and days of weights, but I'm not one of these people. I go every day, about 25mins on cardio and 35 on the weights machines, but I have no pattern or plan at all. I'm obviously not going to obsessively work one muscle whilst not doing another - so does it really matter?

    I'd say the very least 'plan' you should have is what body part you are going to do on what days during the week.

    if your doing full body then obviously that doesn't apply, but then i'd say your basic plan should be to distribute the sets evenly or in a logical way that will support your chosen goals. if your a beginer, probably best to stick to a given set of exercises for a while and then switch rather then randomly selecting an exercise for a body part each time.

    it really does matter
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    i'd also like to point out that what your title says and what your OP asks seem to be two different things.

    many seem to be just addressing the title. no its not important to split the body into different groups and do those groups on different days (otherwise known as a split routine).

    but your OP seems to suggest that your going into the gym with no plan or routine what so ever. I think thats a bad idea especially if your relatively new
  • lemonsurprise
    lemonsurprise Posts: 255 Member
    You're right, I have no plan or routine whatsoever apart from what I said before - 25 mins cardio and 35 on weights. I'll do what I think is a good mix on the weight machines in terms of different muscle groups. My partner has a routine but I don't think I could spend half an hour just on my biceps, or just on one or two particular groups.
    Should I carry on with what I'm doing until I'm actually fit/strong enough to do that?
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    i think its going to be that much harder to get fit/strong if you don't have a plan.

    would recommend just googling 'beginner weight program' and choosing one from there.

    the reason why you'd want a plan, is so you have consistency in your workout. Variety can often be helpful, but you need a certain amount of consistency in weight training to make sure you keep stimulating a muscle often enough (and not to often) to make it grow.

    You don't want to go more then 3 days without hitting a body part again. so if you are going in and doing all your body parts and take no more then 3 days between workouts, your actually not doing that bad. but (especially as a beginner) its probably better to do flat bench each workout for a few months and then change the exercise (if desired), rather then one day doing flat bench, 3 days later doing flys, 3 days later doing incline, etc.

    honestly the easiest way to do it and not have to think about it would be to do strong lifts or one of those. if theres something in the program you really don't like, try a different one.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    If you do strength training every day it would be better if you did a split so that your muscles have time to recover. I would recommend that you do full body 3x a week with at least 1 rest day in between each strength training day. Plus you need a program ASAP if you want to see results. Random machines using all muscle groups every day is very inefficient and a time waster. Once you find a program you want to do you should also check out the freeweights-barbells, dumbbells, kettlebells, medicine balls, etc. instead of solely using machines.