DOMS and leg days

Okay so whenever i have a leg day, i get stiffness/pain/DOMS so bad i can barely walk for the next couple days. I'm not new to lifitng by any means, and it seems i only get DOMS this severe in my legs, and it happens after every leg day. Any thoughts on why my legs seem soooo susceptible to DOMS and what i might be able to do to prevent it. I've tried reducing weight, fewer sets, still always happens. FRUSTRATING!

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  • grimendale
    grimendale Posts: 2,153 Member
    Are you stretching after you lift? If not, that could help.
  • allie_00p
    allie_00p Posts: 280 Member
    Are you stretching enough after your workout? If stretching isn't enough, maybe look into foam rolling.
  • BenjaminMFP88
    BenjaminMFP88 Posts: 660 Member
    Okay so whenever i have a leg day, i get stiffness/pain/DOMS so bad i can barely walk for the next couple days. I'm not new to lifitng by any means, and it seems i only get DOMS this severe in my legs, and it happens after every leg day. Any thoughts on why my legs seem soooo susceptible to DOMS and what i might be able to do to prevent it. I've tried reducing weight, fewer sets, still always happens. FRUSTRATING!

    Do you stretch before and after your workouts? For working out, are your leg routines a different volume then your other muscle groups?
  • ashleydawndill
    ashleydawndill Posts: 242 Member
    You need to reduce the weight even more, then. If your muscles are that sore every time then the weight you're using is too heavy. You should never experience that much pain after any workout. Also, make sure you stretch a lot before/after. :)
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    How long have you been on your current routine?

    If it has been for quite awhile, it may have to do with your diet, and hydration levels. How big is your deficit, do you hit your protein macro and your micros?

    If the soreness in your tendons or the muscles. If you are going too heavy it might put too much pressure on the tendons and ligaments, they are weaker and slower to strength than your muscles, which is way many beginner programs have you start with the empty bar and add weight every workout
  • pinktoesjb
    pinktoesjb Posts: 302 Member
    streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch. Then stretch some more, maybe a cold shower/bath if you have the facility.

    And warm up.

    But mostly, stretch.
  • kates232
    kates232 Posts: 8 Member
    Up your water intake, and make sure you're doing a proper warm-up and cool-down, with stretching afterward. Try a light jog for 10-15min before you lift, and 10min of walking after. We tend to overlook the importance of this!
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    warm up, foam roll, stretch is about all i do to try to reduce doms.

    leg day doms is always the worst for me too.

    are you taking any BCAAs? ive read that those can help reduce doms as well.
  • +1 on the foam rollers. Finish with rolling out the quads and IT bands - helps a lot!
  • DannehBoyy
    DannehBoyy Posts: 546 Member
    Maybe you could try some cod liver oil tablets if it's your joints that are stiff? :)
  • I add glutamine before and after leg day. This helps me get enough protein in for quick recovery.
  • Kirk_R
    Kirk_R Posts: 112 Member
    Try lifting more frequently. If you've only got one leg day per week try two. If you've got two now try three.
  • shadyj26
    shadyj26 Posts: 102 Member
    Stretching my legs out after a leg workout always helped me. Also, I like to soak in a tube of hot water to help loosen them back up.
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    For me personally stretching and light cardio the day after to get the blood/nutrients/oxygen flowing does wonders for my DOMS.
  • chickeyumass
    chickeyumass Posts: 5 Member
    I do legs every Wednesday morning and I get pain two days later only from lunges under the smith machine (glutes yea!) and inner thigh workouts. I think these muscles remain sore because they are not stretched during my spin classes and fitness walk outings. I've heard that potassium may help. Add a banana to your protein shake?
  • BenjaminMFP88
    BenjaminMFP88 Posts: 660 Member
    Haha, looks like everyone has a different approach to DOMS... Here's a checklist for you to simplify your gym needs :D

    1: Take Fish Oil
    2: Drink more
    3: Stretch
    4: Foam Roller
    5: Oh Gawd you're lifting too heavy
    6: Adjust your routine?
    7: Take supplements (glutimate)
    8: MOAR PROTEIN
    9: STREEEEEETCH
    10: Lift more
    11: Lift less

    etc etc etc :D
  • longtimeterp
    longtimeterp Posts: 614 Member
    It's the muscles, the joints are okay (with the exception of my surgery knee, but i'm used to that hurting). uggghhhh i HATE stretching and rolling, was hoping for different answers! HATE HATE HATE my roller, it's so painful! Def don't wanna cut back the weights anymore though, was doing 1000 on the leg press at the beginning of the year and now i'm sticking to 500, but no lower.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Okay so whenever i have a leg day, i get stiffness/pain/DOMS so bad i can barely walk for the next couple days. I'm not new to lifitng by any means, and it seems i only get DOMS this severe in my legs, and it happens after every leg day. Any thoughts on why my legs seem soooo susceptible to DOMS and what i might be able to do to prevent it. I've tried reducing weight, fewer sets, still always happens. FRUSTRATING!

    Something that's helped me after a really rough leg day, and helping bring up that conditioning.

    Swimming and yoga. Day after I'll get a good swim in, or a yoga session.
  • BenjaminMFP88
    BenjaminMFP88 Posts: 660 Member
    It's the muscles, the joints are okay (with the exception of my surgery knee, but i'm used to that hurting). uggghhhh i HATE stretching and rolling, was hoping for different answers! HATE HATE HATE my roller, it's so painful! Def don't wanna cut back the weights anymore though, was doing 1000 on the leg press at the beginning of the year and now i'm sticking to 500, but no lower.

    There's nothing wrong with DOMS, it's a build up of lactic acid. Lactic acid is easiest removed by any of the following or combination of but not limited to stretching and it's various forms, certain supplements, proper hydration, steam/sauna, brief low intensity cardio following the workout. The real question is if you like your workout, which do you hate more, stretching or DOMS?
  • It's the muscles, the joints are okay (with the exception of my surgery knee, but i'm used to that hurting). uggghhhh i HATE stretching and rolling, was hoping for different answers! HATE HATE HATE my roller, it's so painful! Def don't wanna cut back the weights anymore though, was doing 1000 on the leg press at the beginning of the year and now i'm sticking to 500, but no lower.

    There's nothing wrong with DOMS, it's a build up of lactic acid. Lactic acid is easiest removed by any of the following or combination of but not limited to stretching and it's various forms, certain supplements, proper hydration, steam/sauna, brief low intensity cardio following the workout. The real question is if you like your workout, which do you hate more, stretching or DOMS?
    This is no longer thought to be correct.
  • BenjaminMFP88
    BenjaminMFP88 Posts: 660 Member
    It's the muscles, the joints are okay (with the exception of my surgery knee, but i'm used to that hurting). uggghhhh i HATE stretching and rolling, was hoping for different answers! HATE HATE HATE my roller, it's so painful! Def don't wanna cut back the weights anymore though, was doing 1000 on the leg press at the beginning of the year and now i'm sticking to 500, but no lower.

    There's nothing wrong with DOMS, it's a build up of lactic acid. Lactic acid is easiest removed by any of the following or combination of but not limited to stretching and it's various forms, certain supplements, proper hydration, steam/sauna, brief low intensity cardio following the workout. The real question is if you like your workout, which do you hate more, stretching or DOMS?
    This is no longer thought to be correct.

    Nice, been a few years since I looked into the specifics and you're right, lactic acid isn't the supposed culprit although the remedy remains the same. Last time I looked into it acid was all the rage :D

    http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/features/sore-muscles-dont-stop-exercising?page=2
  • mathmatt
    mathmatt Posts: 58 Member
    If you hate stretching, I'll assume you'd hate an ice bath even more. What do you do after you work out (sit in the car and drive to home/work, sit at home/work)? You could try swimming, low resistance biking or walking around for a little bit. Avoid not using your legs for long periods of time. Do things to increase the blood flow to your legs to help speed up the repair the damaged tissue.
  • Cherimoose
    Cherimoose Posts: 5,208 Member
    Replace "leg day" with a full body workout done every 2-3 days. Problem solved.
  • skeo
    skeo Posts: 471 Member
    Before and after for about 15 min each time, I make sure to foam roll. :smooched: it hurts so good!
  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    Correct, from what I've reading in my physiology class is that lactic acid is not the culprit of DOMS. Here's an intro to the discussion from our text.

    If lactate is not the cause of
    delayed-onset muscle soreness, what
    is the cause? Growing evidence indi-
    cates that this type of muscle soreness
    originates from microscopic injury to
    muscle fibers. This kind of injury
    results in a slow cascade of biochemi-
    cal events leading to inflammation
    and edema within the injured mus-
    cles. Because these events are slow to
    develop, the resulting pain generally
    doesn’t appear until 24 to 48 hours
    after exercise. Details of the events
    leading to delayed-onset muscle sore-
    ness are discussed in chapter 21.


    Since we're talking about injury or damage it's important to focus on recovery. What are some things that help recovery?

    - Nutrition: Appropriate caloric consumption for your goals and activity, adequate protein included. Approximately 1.6kg's to 2kg's per kg of bodyweight.

    - Sleep: Get 7 to 8 hours of good sleep. I've personally found the supplement ZMA to really help my sleep and I can tell a difference between when I do and don't take it. I'm not big on supplements either, but this is one I like.

    - Flexibility: Getting some good stretching and self-myofacial-release in makes a big difference in managing your pain. Personally, I can tell when I get lazy in stretching because my lower back gets sore as hell.

    - Training frequency: What is it? Perhaps it needs to be less? Recovery from exercise is essential if you want to exercise long-term. I think on MFP the most common goal is weight-loss and most users seem to think they need to exercise everyday to lose weight and that's just not the case.
  • Cortelli
    Cortelli Posts: 1,369 Member
    I'll just leave this here:

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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    lol.

    I just throw myself down the stairs to the basement after leg days.
  • Not to sound like a b*tch (Ok maybe I am) but I think you need to toughen up! Stretch, drink lots of water the day before & leading up to, stretch, consume adequate protein, invest in a foam roller & some epsom salts for soaking & you'll be good. Today is day 2 after leg day for me & I can barely walk without discomfort. Hitting the gym for arms, shoulders & cardio tonight. No pain no gain. Just sayin'
  • giggitygoo
    giggitygoo Posts: 1,978 Member
    Do you do any cardio after leg day?

    The only thing that keeps me from getting insane doms is making sure I finish a bottle of water while walking on the treadmill after my leg day.

    I hate stretching, but it helps.
  • katysmelly
    katysmelly Posts: 380 Member
    Stretching doesn't help DOMS:

    http://www.bmj.com/content/325/7362/468


    Massage does seem to help (which is what I guess the foam roller does.)

    I think light exercise the next day does help - like someone said above about walking on a treadmill.