reasons for certain diets
La5Vega5Girl
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i find it interesting that people will respond differently to you and your dietary selections based on your reasoning. for example: if i say that i have a disease and i can't eat pineapple or i will die, everyone is fine and supportive of my avoiding pineapple. or if someone is a vegan because they have a moral objections to eating animals, people are usually tolerant of that type of "reason." but if i just choose not to eat pineapple (or fish, or chicken or eggs...) then suddenly i feel that opens me to everyone giving me their opinions or chastising me for my choices. even family or friends who know me well. i'm not sure why it matters? shouldn't we all be supportive of each other?
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Not eating pineapples because you'll die is valid, not eating them because you saw a Facebook meme saying pineapples will make you fat and then give you cancer.....not valid.0
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Are you referring to a certain thread here where you have felt chastised, or are you referring to real life only?i find it interesting that people will respond differently to you and your dietary selections based on your reasoning. for example: if i say that i have a disease and i can't eat pineapple or i will die, everyone is fine and supportive of my avoiding pineapple. or if someone is a vegan because they have a moral objections to eating animals, people are usually tolerant of that type of "reason." but if i just choose not to eat pineapple (or fish, or chicken or eggs...) then suddenly i feel that opens me to everyone giving me their opinions or chastising me for my choices. even family or friends who know me well. i'm not sure why it matters? shouldn't we all be supportive of each other?
Here, people get a lot of flack for categorizing foods as good or bad and not eating based on their perceptions, not for declining foods based on personal preference.
"Supportive of one another" means different things to different people. For example, if I tell you the dangers of some diet you want to do, I am being supportive by telling you the truth. Others would disAgree with this approach.0 -
I'd focus on doing your own research and finding what works for you, rather than worrying about what other people think. Honestly the majority of people out there don't really know what they're talking about when it comes to fitness and nutrition and are more just repeating what they've been told; in short, broscience is abundant in this area. Expecting everyone to agree with your choices or be supportive of any particular diet plan is just not realistic. And also realize that a lot of the people who may agree with you are potentially doing it for the wrong reasons (broscience strikes again). Just do your own thing and stop worrying about the opinions of others.0
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Are you referring to a certain thread here where you have felt chastised, or are you referring to real life only?i find it interesting that people will respond differently to you and your dietary selections based on your reasoning. for example: if i say that i have a disease and i can't eat pineapple or i will die, everyone is fine and supportive of my avoiding pineapple. or if someone is a vegan because they have a moral objections to eating animals, people are usually tolerant of that type of "reason." but if i just choose not to eat pineapple (or fish, or chicken or eggs...) then suddenly i feel that opens me to everyone giving me their opinions or chastising me for my choices. even family or friends who know me well. i'm not sure why it matters? shouldn't we all be supportive of each other?
Here, people get a lot of flack for categorizing foods as good or bad and not eating based on their perceptions, not for declining foods based on personal preference.
"Supportive of one another" means different things to different people. For example, if I tell you the dangers of some diet you want to do, I am being supportive by telling you the truth. Others would disAgree with this approach.
no, in real life. family/friends have said things and i just found it interesting. even if do see a meme on pineapples causing cancer and i want to stay away from them, isn't that my business, even if isn't valid??0 -
Now that you say it there is an oddity. In real life people criticize what you choose to eat (ie whole eggs) whereas MFP will be critical if you decide to be an Egg Beaters person.
Do what you want regardless of whet people in real life or MFP think.0 -
no, in real life. family/friends have said things and i just found it interesting. even if do see a meme on pineapples causing cancer and i want to stay away from them, isn't that my business, even if isn't valid??
It's your business, but why would you want it to be when it's invalid?
When people make baseless decisions, it shouldn't surprise them when other don't support them.0 -
Are you referring to a certain thread here where you have felt chastised, or are you referring to real life only?i find it interesting that people will respond differently to you and your dietary selections based on your reasoning. for example: if i say that i have a disease and i can't eat pineapple or i will die, everyone is fine and supportive of my avoiding pineapple. or if someone is a vegan because they have a moral objections to eating animals, people are usually tolerant of that type of "reason." but if i just choose not to eat pineapple (or fish, or chicken or eggs...) then suddenly i feel that opens me to everyone giving me their opinions or chastising me for my choices. even family or friends who know me well. i'm not sure why it matters? shouldn't we all be supportive of each other?
Here, people get a lot of flack for categorizing foods as good or bad and not eating based on their perceptions, not for declining foods based on personal preference.
"Supportive of one another" means different things to different people. For example, if I tell you the dangers of some diet you want to do, I am being supportive by telling you the truth. Others would disAgree with this approach.
no, in real life. family/friends have said things and i just found it interesting. even if do see a meme on pineapples causing cancer and i want to stay away from them, isn't that my business, even if isn't valid??
At least the people that I deal with are well-meaning. They just push what worked for them or what they think. I say thanks and ignore what I don't need at the time (I keep it because i may need to come back to it) and vent elsewhere about how annoying it is. My mother-in-law will try to convince me that I can eat things that are higher calorie than I would like. I think she wants me to be happy and have what she thinks I really want.
So, maybe they think you really do want that pineapple?
It is hard. It tests your willpower.0 -
A friend of mine really, really, really hates green peppers, so he started telling people he's allergic to them. He said it was the best way to make sure no one slipped any green peppers into his food!
No one ever seemed to think it was odd that he was allergic to green peppers, but had no problem with jalapenos....0 -
I tend to ignore people that do this kinda thing but this is mostly because I have a valid reason for the foods I avoid even if its just that I don't like them ie plain oatmeal yuck. Though for the oddest one I pull the allergy card, its technically not but the reaction is the same so yeah.0
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I don't like a lot of seafood. Since I live in New England, I occasionally get a bit of grief about that!
But I think it depends on the reasons you give for not eating something.
If it's because "I heard that eating pineapples make your toenails turn purple and fall off," or some other Internet meme, then I can understand why people might respond, "That's totally ridiculous. Someone made that up to mess with people." It's like saying that you don't vaccinate your kids because it causes autism. Sure, a lot of people believe it, but they have no good reason to do so. <puts on flak jacket and settles into foxhole>
If it's because you don't like pineapple, own your choice. "I just don't like pineapple." I don't like scallops. I tell people I don't like them, unless I've been invited to dinner and they're served, in which case I will eat them to be polite.
Where it gets tricky is when people rule out whole categories of food. "I don't like vegetables" is like saying "I don't like TV." There may be vegetables you don't like, just like there may be TV shows you don't like. But vegetables, and TV, have so much variety that when someone says they don't like them, it makes me suspicious. It sounds like a cop-out.
It's also worth keeping in mind that kids and adults have to taste something new 20-40 times before they like it. I used to really dislike pineapple, but now I will eat it cheerily and like it if it is served to me, though I won't necessarily seek it out of my own accord. Think about the first time you had beer or whisky (if you drink); odds are you didn't like it. Or blue cheese.
So if there are particular foods you just don't like, say that. But if you find yourself ruling out entire categories of food, just because you don't like them, maybe your "dislike" is a prejudice, or based on lack of experience.0 -
The only way people know what you don't eat and why is because you tell them. Once you open up that conversation, then others have the right to respond with their truth.
Are you referring to a certain thread here where you have felt chastised, or are you referring to real life only?i find it interesting that people will respond differently to you and your dietary selections based on your reasoning. for example: if i say that i have a disease and i can't eat pineapple or i will die, everyone is fine and supportive of my avoiding pineapple. or if someone is a vegan because they have a moral objections to eating animals, people are usually tolerant of that type of "reason." but if i just choose not to eat pineapple (or fish, or chicken or eggs...) then suddenly i feel that opens me to everyone giving me their opinions or chastising me for my choices. even family or friends who know me well. i'm not sure why it matters? shouldn't we all be supportive of each other?
Here, people get a lot of flack for categorizing foods as good or bad and not eating based on their perceptions, not for declining foods based on personal preference.
"Supportive of one another" means different things to different people. For example, if I tell you the dangers of some diet you want to do, I am being supportive by telling you the truth. Others would disAgree with this approach.
no, in real life. family/friends have said things and i just found it interesting. even if do see a meme on pineapples causing cancer and i want to stay away from them, isn't that my business, even if isn't valid??
If someone tells me that pineapples cause cancer and that's why they don't eat them, I'm going to probably get a chuckle out of it and ask them to show me the research.0 -
You have the right to not eat whatever you don't want to eat, for whatever reasons you don't want to eat it.
Nobody should be rude about it.
Some people are just unhappy. Don't let it bring you down, 0 -
Oh it's you again! LOL this topic sure gets a bee in your bonnet huh? Just kidding :flowerforyou:no, in real life. family/friends have said things and i just found it interesting. even if do see a meme on pineapples causing cancer and i want to stay away from them, isn't that my business, even if isn't valid??
It's your business, but why would you want it to be when it's invalid?
When people make baseless decisions, it shouldn't surprise them when other don't support them.0 -
It's best on MFP to do what you do. Change it when you think it needs to be changed, and otherwise take what you can, but not worry about the rest from the "I'm not on a diet" folks. Eat the way you feel best. At a reasonable deficit, and move more. Don't worry about what others think you should eat.
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The OP said this is about real life not MFP.It's best on MFP to do what you do. Change it when you think it needs to be changed, and otherwise take what you can, but not worry about the rest from the "I'm not on a diet" folks. Eat the way you feel best. At a reasonable deficit, and move more. Don't worry about what others think you should eat.
cheers!
I would say to eat the way you want to but don't worry about the rest from any folks.
However, if you share about what you don't eat and why, then you open yourself up to other's opinions, whether they are "I'm not on a diet folk" or not.
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If you think the CIA has put cancer in pineapples and that's why you deactivated your Facebook account, then that is 100% up to you and not at all affecting anyone else. That being said, when you tell me about it at Thanksgiving, and I have to listen to it to be polite, then it's affecting ME. And so I'm gonna have something to say about it, even if it's just calling you a moron under my breath or putting secret pineapples in everything I bring to the next family gathering.
On the other hand, if someone just happens to see your hand pass over the pineapples and go for the cheese plate instead, and casually asks, and you casually mention you're kind of iffy on pineapples right now, and they start riding around on the Judgement Train, then it's all on them.
So I guess it depends what kind of interaction it was that lead to you feeling judged or bullied based on your food choices.0 -
i find it interesting that people will respond differently to you and your dietary selections based on your reasoning. for example: if i say that i have a disease and i can't eat pineapple or i will die, everyone is fine and supportive of my avoiding pineapple. or if someone is a vegan because they have a moral objections to eating animals, people are usually tolerant of that type of "reason." but if i just choose not to eat pineapple (or fish, or chicken or eggs...) then suddenly i feel that opens me to everyone giving me their opinions or chastising me for my choices. even family or friends who know me well. i'm not sure why it matters? shouldn't we all be supportive of each other?
I don't care what people eat or don't. There are lots of foods I don't eat, for example because I dislike them or think they are not worth the calories. For example, I think peanut butter is weirdly overrated. (Ducking for cover.)
If I say "I don't eat peanut butter because I don't really like it much," I assume no one will try to talk me out of it. It's purely subjective. Similarly, if I say that I don't eat eggs because I think it's ethically wrong to use animal products, most people don't really want to get into what is a debate about ethics--it's like arguing about religion or some such.
BUT, if I say I don't eat peanut butter because peanuts are generally unhealthy for everyone or because they are essentially fat pills, way beyond their calories, or because they cause cancer or cause people to crave fat and be unable to control themselves or some similar factual assertion that is false, I would expect that someone might challenge me. If I said instead "it's not consistent with the way I like to eat" or "they cause me to have cravings," I'd see that as more personal and kind of weird for someone to challenge.
I think the debates here tend to happen when people make broader statements that are intended to apply more generally and not personal or subjective ones.
As for people offline, I don't know. In my world lots of people have weird dietary rules and mostly people don't say anything (whatever they might think).0 -
Sure, a lot of people believe it, but they have no good reason to do so. <puts on flak jacket and settles into foxhole>
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no, in real life. family/friends have said things and i just found it interesting. even if do see a meme on pineapples causing cancer and i want to stay away from them, isn't that my business, even if isn't valid??
If you come onto a discussion forum, touting it as truth, other people/lurkers may read it and believe it to be true. No one here wants to see people fail, so misinformation is corrected. Sure, it's your business, but if you post it here, it becomes everyone's business and open for discussion.0 -
I'm kinda like this, too, though - I love jalapenos and I have no problem with them, but I can't stand green peppers. I used to get headaches if I ate them, but not any more - now, I simply don't like the taste. I'd rather just not have it.A friend of mine really, really, really hates green peppers, so he started telling people he's allergic to them. He said it was the best way to make sure no one slipped any green peppers into his food!
No one ever seemed to think it was odd that he was allergic to green peppers, but had no problem with jalapenos....
I think preferences are fine - I love mushrooms, most people I know don't. That's fine. I choose to forgo most store-bought pastries or desserts because they have a strange mouth feel for me - this usually causes some friction, but I don't really care. I don't justify, I don't make up that I'm allergic and I don't tell anyone I'm on a "diet" (I'd avoid them even if I were gaining - I'd rather save my money and calories for something much more delicious).
I think people will only really pay attention to your preferences or dietary choices if you do. The first instance might catch them off guard, but if you start to freak out about it or give it any kind of special attention (e.g. "I'm allergic, *cough* *cough*), then they'll just jump on that.0 -
I just love that the food you chose for your post is pineapples. I have two friends who refuse to eat them.
One tells people he doesn't like the flavor and everyone challenges him.
The other friend tells people that the reason pineapple has a slight burn to it when you eat it is because of an enzyme that is dissolving your salivary glands and he won't eat a food that is eating him back :laugh:0 -
no, in real life. family/friends have said things and i just found it interesting. even if do see a meme on pineapples causing cancer and i want to stay away from them, isn't that my business, even if isn't valid??
It's your business, but why would you want it to be when it's invalid?
When people make baseless decisions, it shouldn't surprise them when other don't support them.
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Pineapple hurts my mouth, I can't eat it. And I'm vegetarian because I love animals, not for my own health.
I hate celery cause its bitter and stringy.
And I hate heavy fried stuff that gives me heartburn.0 -
YES, pineapple hurts my mouth....bad!!!!! I can't stand that!0
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no, in real life. family/friends have said things and i just found it interesting. even if do see a meme on pineapples causing cancer and i want to stay away from them, isn't that my business, even if isn't valid??
I don't see why it isn't a valid reason, even if it's not true. If you don't want to eat pineapple for any reason, that's your business.
Now, if you start suggesting that others shouldn't eat it, or that it's unhealthy for everyone, that would be different.0 -
i find it interesting that people will respond differently to you and your dietary selections based on your reasoning. for example: if i say that i have a disease and i can't eat pineapple or i will die, everyone is fine and supportive of my avoiding pineapple. or if someone is a vegan because they have a moral objections to eating animals, people are usually tolerant of that type of "reason." but if i just choose not to eat pineapple (or fish, or chicken or eggs...) then suddenly i feel that opens me to everyone giving me their opinions or chastising me for my choices. even family or friends who know me well. i'm not sure why it matters? shouldn't we all be supportive of each other?
^THIS. I totally agree, I have been ridiculed on here because I absolutely can't stand vegetables, but it's not like I WANT to hate them! Trust me, I wish I loved them like I love chocolate! But I've tried and I can't. =(0 -
no, in real life. family/friends have said things and i just found it interesting. even if do see a meme on pineapples causing cancer and i want to stay away from them, isn't that my business, even if isn't valid??
It's your business, but why would you want it to be when it's invalid?
When people make baseless decisions, it shouldn't surprise them when other don't support them.
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There have been many instances in the past where we've been told something is perfectly safe and concerns are baseless, years later.....whoops, people were right. Just look up Thalidomide. Yes, I understand that's an extreme example, but my point is that if someone choses to eat gluten free when not celiac, or anything else for that matter, because it makes them feel better and are not pushing it down your throat or touting it as gospel, why should anyone else care? Yes, I admit a lot of these diets have become fads, but some people actually do feel better eating a certain way.
Something that may be "baseless" now may be proven otherwise years down the road.0
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