I started bulking and I can feel the fat...
julianpoutram
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I don't know what to say, I feel a lot stronger, I've been lifting two weeks now, but I can feel my stomach is getting flabbier and it's making me a little alarmed, is it normal? Will things transition and some of that move to more muscle and my physique will recompose itself over time? The scales has gone up maybe a lb? Not as much as I feel like it has. I'm eating just under 3k cals a day and stuffing as much protein in as I can, I'm going over my fats often though when aiming for 50/30/20 split on carbs, protein and fats.
Should I cut back to say 2,700 cals? Trying to maintain a high level of protein? Or should I stick with it?
Any help is greatly appreciated, I really want to succeed at this and I will take any and all good advice on board. Please take a look at my diary if you like, most days have been logged apart from today.
I'm just looking for some advice on what to do, this is all new to me. Thanks in advance!
Should I cut back to say 2,700 cals? Trying to maintain a high level of protein? Or should I stick with it?
Any help is greatly appreciated, I really want to succeed at this and I will take any and all good advice on board. Please take a look at my diary if you like, most days have been logged apart from today.
I'm just looking for some advice on what to do, this is all new to me. Thanks in advance!
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Track you progress via scale weight and don't panic. If you're gaining any faster than 1/2 lb per week for a few weeks, then scale back cals a little. Don't let your mind play tricks on you0
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This is probably the hardest thing I've ever done. I used to be massively heavier than I am now, adding weight back is going to be a massive psychological barrier for me. The thought of ending back where I started is petrifying.0
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I was going to suggest this too :flowerforyou:
OP, any objective measuring tools you can use right now are going to help. Bulking is a mind-*kitten*, and the scale can do some strange things right in the beginning. (Like jump 2-4 pounds right away, which is water and glycogen, not fat, but it sucks seeing it do that!). The measuring tape is your friend -- it doesn't lie. There's no way you gained an appreciable amount of fat in 2 weeks.0 -
Track your progress. I am currently doing a reverse diet out of contest prep for figure. Track your weight and see how your body is responding, if no weight gain add more. You also have to find what macronutrient ratio is good for your body type. I do well with more carbs so that is currently slowly increasing. It isa mental challenge once you have achieved a low body fat% and great physique. But if you want to grow or become stronger you have to let it go back up a bit. Try other methods measurements, photos other than the scale.0
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Perhaps, set your calories so you're only gaining 1/2 pound or less a week. Other than that, worry less about the weight on your body and more about the weight you're lifting. Keep your mind focused on getting stronger and give yourself time for your focus to shift onto that.0
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The article was fantastically relevant to me, so points to you guys. I've decided to aim for 1/2 a pound per week rather a full pound which sets me at 2700ish cals. Going to try and get more protein in and cut the fat and sugar down a little.0
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You will absolutely gain fat on a bulk. On average, half the weight you gain will be fat. I put about an inch on my waist for every 5-7 lbs. I gain. It's a mind game. You have to measure your success by strength gains and measurements of the body parts you actually want to grow. You've lost the weight before, so take comfort that you can do it again when it's time to cut.0
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This is probably the hardest thing I've ever done. I used to be massively heavier than I am now, adding weight back is going to be a massive psychological barrier for me. The thought of ending back where I started is petrifying.
Sup man, I've been through this and legit just started cutting again today. totally know what your going through it's not easy at first for sure.
Set yourself up with goals, IE a 10lb weight gain goal and then see how you feel ... and go from there. If your not comfortable at the 10lbs weight gain then you can easily drop it back off in 6 weeks or so.
Keep it controlled and monitor your **** daily... I lost 172lbs...bulked back 50lbs ... lost 30 lbs...bulked back 20lbs and now I am going to start cutting again.
From my experience I would recommend keeping to your goals and still tracking everything my fault (50lbs gained) was 8 weeks of not tracking, just doing whatever... I did get allot stronger but I didn't like my body at that point.
Anyways message me if you want into my 3rd year of BB still very much a beginner but I know what your going through around all the psychological struggles0 -
It took me months to finally comes to terms that its just fat. I will lose it again. I've lost close to 200 lbs and I was terrified to gain weight again to put on muscle. Now I am in my 4th week and I've gained alot of strength in the gym. It actually made me feel awesome lol I was killing the weights. You just got to come to terms that you can loose the weight again. In the long run your gonna be happy you did bulk and see all your gains when you lean out. =D0
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If you've never bulked before. 1 lb / week for the first three months is fine. Newbie gains are huge. I wouldn't go under a daily 500 calorie surplus. You already know how to cut the fat. It'll be even easier after you add some muscle.0
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If your Fat is down to 20%, i would say you need to look at what carbs you are having that make up your 50%
if youre eating high GI carbs throughout the day when you are not exercising, that could be why you are putting on more fat than you would like.
Try and only eat high GI carbs in the morning or straight after a workout, all other times eat low GI carbs, and yeah cut the sugar to as close to Zero as you can.
I just had a look at your food diary and you are having way to much sugar and you should cut out the high GI carbs at lunch. After you are taking in all of that, all of the un used energy which would be alot would then go to your fat stores.
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With a bulk comes fat. I'm exactly the same, seeing fat come back sucks but it can be kept down with cardio, particularly in the mornings and just keep track of what kind of foods you're eating.0
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I am doing my first bulk as well....and it is a mind f**k....I am having to suck it up myself and trust the process....I am doing what others have suggested. Gradual calorie increases, trying to get to where I am ~1lb a week.....
Trying to eat as many calories as I need sucks though.0 -
I did not know this one! It's totally me last year though. Took me 3 months to actually commit!ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »
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If your Fat is down to 20%, i would say you need to look at what carbs you are having that make up your 50%
if youre eating high GI carbs throughout the day when you are not exercising, that could be why you are putting on more fat than you would like.
Try and only eat high GI carbs in the morning or straight after a workout, all other times eat low GI carbs, and yeah cut the sugar to as close to Zero as you can.
I just had a look at your food diary and you are having way to much sugar and you should cut out the high GI carbs at lunch. After you are taking in all of that, all of the un used energy which would be alot would then go to your fat stores.
Why?
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LolBroScience wrote: »If your Fat is down to 20%, i would say you need to look at what carbs you are having that make up your 50%
if youre eating high GI carbs throughout the day when you are not exercising, that could be why you are putting on more fat than you would like.
Try and only eat high GI carbs in the morning or straight after a workout, all other times eat low GI carbs, and yeah cut the sugar to as close to Zero as you can.
I just had a look at your food diary and you are having way to much sugar and you should cut out the high GI carbs at lunch. After you are taking in all of that, all of the un used energy which would be alot would then go to your fat stores.
Why?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+should+you+stay+away+from+high+GI+carbs?
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LolBroScience wrote: »If your Fat is down to 20%, i would say you need to look at what carbs you are having that make up your 50%
if youre eating high GI carbs throughout the day when you are not exercising, that could be why you are putting on more fat than you would like.
Try and only eat high GI carbs in the morning or straight after a workout, all other times eat low GI carbs, and yeah cut the sugar to as close to Zero as you can.
I just had a look at your food diary and you are having way to much sugar and you should cut out the high GI carbs at lunch. After you are taking in all of that, all of the un used energy which would be alot would then go to your fat stores.
Why?
^^^This. Why does it matter when you consume high GI carbs?0 -
Lifts4IceCream wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »If your Fat is down to 20%, i would say you need to look at what carbs you are having that make up your 50%
if youre eating high GI carbs throughout the day when you are not exercising, that could be why you are putting on more fat than you would like.
Try and only eat high GI carbs in the morning or straight after a workout, all other times eat low GI carbs, and yeah cut the sugar to as close to Zero as you can.
I just had a look at your food diary and you are having way to much sugar and you should cut out the high GI carbs at lunch. After you are taking in all of that, all of the un used energy which would be alot would then go to your fat stores.
Why?
^^^This. Why does it matter when you consume high GI carbs?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+does+it+matter+when+you+consume+high+GI+carb?
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Tedebearduff wrote: »Lifts4IceCream wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »If your Fat is down to 20%, i would say you need to look at what carbs you are having that make up your 50%
if youre eating high GI carbs throughout the day when you are not exercising, that could be why you are putting on more fat than you would like.
Try and only eat high GI carbs in the morning or straight after a workout, all other times eat low GI carbs, and yeah cut the sugar to as close to Zero as you can.
I just had a look at your food diary and you are having way to much sugar and you should cut out the high GI carbs at lunch. After you are taking in all of that, all of the un used energy which would be alot would then go to your fat stores.
Why?
^^^This. Why does it matter when you consume high GI carbs?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+does+it+matter+when+you+consume+high+GI+carb?
Except that, if you make a claim it's your responsibility to support it. Not direct others to Google for their own research purposes.
In any event, it was a tongue in cheek response.
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LolBroScience wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »Lifts4IceCream wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »If your Fat is down to 20%, i would say you need to look at what carbs you are having that make up your 50%
if youre eating high GI carbs throughout the day when you are not exercising, that could be why you are putting on more fat than you would like.
Try and only eat high GI carbs in the morning or straight after a workout, all other times eat low GI carbs, and yeah cut the sugar to as close to Zero as you can.
I just had a look at your food diary and you are having way to much sugar and you should cut out the high GI carbs at lunch. After you are taking in all of that, all of the un used energy which would be alot would then go to your fat stores.
Why?
^^^This. Why does it matter when you consume high GI carbs?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+does+it+matter+when+you+consume+high+GI+carb?
Except that, if you make a claim it's your responsibility to support it. Not direct others to Google for their own research purposes.
In any event, it was a tongue in cheek response.
Hey bud,
I didn't make any claim. . .My point was that you were just looking for a internet argument either help someone out or gtfo. Why say Why???? Just help the person man! your saying he is wrong right? so why can't you back up your point as to why he is wrong?
what a waste of my time.
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Hey bud,
I didn't make any claim. . .My point was that you were just looking for a internet argument either help someone out or gtfo. Why say Why???? Just help the person man! your saying he is wrong right? so why can't you back up your point as to why he is wrong?
what a waste of my time.
I wasn't directing it at you. It was in reference to the original quote. I'm not looking to argue. If someone is going to spread misinformation I will challenge it and ask why however.
I'm not really concerned with whether or not it is a "waste of your time", but sorry you feel that way.0 -
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If your feel the extra fat go to some HIIT classes or some klettlebell classes... BEASTMODE.0
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LolBroScience wrote: »
Hey bud,
I didn't make any claim. . .My point was that you were just looking for a internet argument either help someone out or gtfo. Why say Why???? Just help the person man! your saying he is wrong right? so why can't you back up your point as to why he is wrong?
what a waste of my time.
I wasn't directing it at you. It was in reference to the original quote. I'm not looking to argue. If someone is going to spread misinformation I will challenge it and ask why however.
I'm not really concerned with whether or not it is a "waste of your time", but sorry you feel that way.
Hey Man,
so your 'Why?' is referring to why only have High GI carbs first thing in the morning and immediately after training ?
first thing in the morning when you need to re fuel your body its ok and smae for after a workout but all other time when you're not doing much physical activity..
More insulin is released. A high insulin level promotes a quick storage of sugar in muscle and the liver. It also inhibits the hormone glucagon, which normally tells the body to burn stored fat. Forthcoming meals restore glycogen (especially if high glycemic) and the cycle keeps repeating. Thus, fat stores do not get touched and usually grow larger.
Blood sugar levels then drop quickly, leaving you hungry sooner. Suddenly, the body needs more fuel. But because glucagon is still in short supply, the body does not tap into its fat supply for energy.
If his problem is that he is gaining to much fat, and also by looking at his diet, this could be because he isnt buring his fat stores enough and he keeps adding to fat stores everytime he is eating high GI at lunch and other Sugary crap throughout the day, he has a goal of 100g of sugar, that needs to be closer to like 10g.
if you dont agree i would be interested to hear your thoughts.
cheers,0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »
Hey bud,
I didn't make any claim. . .My point was that you were just looking for a internet argument either help someone out or gtfo. Why say Why???? Just help the person man! your saying he is wrong right? so why can't you back up your point as to why he is wrong?
what a waste of my time.
I wasn't directing it at you. It was in reference to the original quote. I'm not looking to argue. If someone is going to spread misinformation I will challenge it and ask why however.
I'm not really concerned with whether or not it is a "waste of your time", but sorry you feel that way.
Hey Man,
so your 'Why?' is referring to why only have High GI carbs first thing in the morning and immediately after training ?
first thing in the morning when you need to re fuel your body its ok and smae for after a workout but all other time when you're not doing much physical activity..
More insulin is released. A high insulin level promotes a quick storage of sugar in muscle and the liver. It also inhibits the hormone glucagon, which normally tells the body to burn stored fat. Forthcoming meals restore glycogen (especially if high glycemic) and the cycle keeps repeating. Thus, fat stores do not get touched and usually grow larger.
Blood sugar levels then drop quickly, leaving you hungry sooner. Suddenly, the body needs more fuel. But because glucagon is still in short supply, the body does not tap into its fat supply for energy.
If his problem is that he is gaining to much fat, and also by looking at his diet, this could be because he isnt buring his fat stores enough and he keeps adding to fat stores everytime he is eating high GI at lunch and other Sugary crap throughout the day, he has a goal of 100g of sugar, that needs to be closer to like 10g.
if you dont agree i would be interested to hear your thoughts.
cheers,
It's merely a matter of majoring in the minors...
He's not eating High GI carbs as a stand alone, he is eating it in tandem with other foods as a complete meal. Thus, GI is lowered. He in a caloric surplus, energy is being stored regardless of it is from carbs, protein, or fats. Fat storage will occur to some degree whether the surplus is from carbs, fat, or protein.
There is nothing wrong with sugar (barring medical issues). A goal of 10 grams of sugar? If I eat half an apple I'm passed that for the day. Let's also eliminate vegetables too because you know... sugar.
If he's "feeling fat" he's either consuming too many calories for his activity level and thus gaining too rapidly, or it's all in his head and he just feels bloated. I'm going with the latter since he states the scale moved only 1lb and its over the course of two weeks.0 -
So even if you eat food extremely high on the GI as long as in that meal its balanced with low GI food. that High GI food has no affect on the rise of blood sugar in your body?0
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You really should do some research on what GI means. The index is based on simple foods from a fasted state. A Snickers bar is lower in GI than a carrot but what would you recommend?0
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Have a look into Glycemic Load mate, ever heard of that?0
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I could spend hours writing about the Glycemic Index and Glycemic Load but it is pretty safe to keep it basic, but i will make it more clear
Eat foods that burn slowly throughout the day
Eat foods that burn up fast only first thing in morning and after a workout0
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