weight watchers points plus

Have been on ww for a year, met goal everything going great until pointplus came. Been gaining the last 5 weeks, so I'm going back to the old program today to see what happens. I think the pointsplus gives you too many calories...anyone else have thoughts on that.

I've been doing the new one in the UK since it started - only joined when ProPoints UK was launched. I've lost 8lbs since I started it, but also been logging on here too. Not sure how much it was helping but have tried following the 'Simply Filling' technique this week rather than the 'traditional points' counting and that has really made a difference to how I eat as it is training me to eat healthier foods (wholewheat pasta - free, white pasta - 6 points or so, lean meat free, veggies free, etc). I guess we'll see how it looks at the end of the week when I get on the scales!

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I am following pro points and find that as long as i stick to the plan i am losing....

10/01 -2.75lb
17/01 -3.5lb
24/01 +3.5lb *bad week - went takeaway crazy*
31/01 -4lb... 66 net calories over weekly goal of 1410
07/02 -1lb - TOTM...281 net calories over weekly goal of 1410 (included a big drinking night)

I'm not disappointed with this at all. However, i do also track on here to make sure that i'm not going massively crazy on calories as i find it's very easy to eat a LOT of fruit which soon racks up the calories. Now WW say that this shouldn't matter and from my results i don't think it does, that much... but i think that if i went really mad on the fruit it would soon add up. I use fruit as snacks, i'm a bit of a picker and pineapple particularly helps to stop me doing this.

Good luck.... let me know how you find it... i'm toying with it myself - whether i should switch to calorie counting but wanted to see how ww goes, especially with the 0 point fruit and veg.... i like that idea lol x Keep me up to date... will some how figure out how to friend you? x

I've been doing Points Plus since the first of the year and I've lost 8 lbs. in 5 weeks. Which is good, don't get me wrong, but I have a lot of weight to lose, and I was really surprised not to see at least a few extra pounds in the initial drop. It's been odd. And I really feel like I'm making myself eat to at least fulfill my dailies.

I started tracking here to compare. On a day that I exercise my daily P+ total just about matches up to what I would eat to lose 2 lbs. per week. But if it's a rest day, my calories are way too high if I eat all my P+. And of course WW gives you activity points as well which in theory you could eat as well. So to me, it seems like it is way too many calories. And if I eat a few servings of "free" fruits and vegetables to get in my good health guidelines, there is no way that I can eat my daily P+ without making myself.

I'm considering dropping WW - I've been tracking both places - and now I'm working on transitioning over to only here. The math here just seems to make way more sense.

Obviously you need to do what works for you. I don't think i've ever had a day when i've struggled to eat my dailies :oS what i do like is the freedom of ww, but i suppose in reality they're not actually that different... by the time you work it all out...

WW give me 29pp @ 40 cals (roughly) per pp = 1160
Weekly allowance 7pp = 280

Total = 1440 cals (roughly) + whatever i eat in fruit and veg.

Cals goal on here = 1410 net cals.

Now i find that on an average day i am eating quite a bit of fruit and veg.... today i have eaten 351 cals of fruit and veg, total cals eaten = 485, ww points = 4. But then the science bit in ww is that the fruit and veg shouldn't matter... because it's about how your body burns things. Hmmm, i do agree that the net calorie is the logical way - there's years of evidence behind it. Maybe i'm just looking for the "easy" way... but then why change something that seems to be working??? Decisions decisions lol.

Can i friend you too - be interesting to see how you get on and what decision you make, i'm going to think about this a little more over the next day or so... but you might just be right and i might be switching to counting calories too.... xxx

Trying the new weight watcher plan. Loved the old one lost 40 Pounds. It is alot of food but we will see how things add up on Friday. Trying not to get frustrated.

Well for me, I have over 100 lbs. to lose. So my dailies right now are at 43!

So a normal day runs 1720 calories. Weeklies adds another 280 - which brings us to 2000. And if I exercise I earn tons of points - most days anywhere from 5-11 exercise points - which is another 200 - 440 calories. And here on MFP my calorie goal is 1530 before exercise.

So for now, I'm tracking both ways. Trying to see what works best for me. This week I'm setting my goals based upon the MFP guidelines and tracking WW as the "backup" method.

Wow - that certainly looks like a lot of calories doesn't it!! I've been thinking about it and i think long term that counting calories might just be easier. There's no cost involved (i subscribe online to ww at the mo), it's easier to find the values for something than it is for ww and the more i'm thinking of the fruit thing the more i'm driving myself mad.

The fact that i can easily eat 400 cals worth of fruit and veg in a day, and i mean easily, plus things like a rice krispies cereal bar which i had the other day was only 2pp... well it's 100cals... that takes us to potentially 50 cals per point, depending on what we eat!

I think i'm slowly talking myself into calorie counting lol. I'm going to go by MFP this week too - my week only starts on Monday and i was -2 cals yesterday, so not doing too badly... will see how this gets on. I will also continue to track and see where this leaves me, but i think that you're right, it's making much more sense with the numbers this way!! xxx

I've been on weight watchers pp program for 9 weeks now and have lost 16 pounds so far,
Its more on how you use the program, meaning just because the pp value of fruit is 0 doesnt mean you can just eat that and then have high points value foods. It's more there as an incentive to 1. get your 5 servings a day and 2. have you snack on fruit instead of going for a candy bar or chips. Because yes, if you eat too much fruit you will actually gain weight because of the glucose.
I have been losing on average 1.5 to 2 pounds a week, which seems slow. But they have it that way because if you lose too fast you can develop anemia and losing too fast on a diet that is not realistic for life (ie. restricting yourself to only healthy foods, and never eating out and "cheating") is gonna just make you gain it all back (and then some) when you finally decide you want to go off the diet.
Overall I find this program to be wonderful as long as you dont abuse the "free" foods. Getting the online program helps with this, because once you put those fruits in a smoothie or anything they get their true points value, and also some things have half point values which they dont count, so if you eat more than one serving, it will start counting.
But most of all its whatever works for you. As long as you dont feel deprived and are losing then any diet is good