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Diet & Nutrition

mrscates
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Diet & Nutrition
Men and women do not need to train differently to see results, but what about diet? Should women eat differently than men? Not really. Men’s and women’s metabolisms are very similar except that women burn a greater ratio of fat to carbs than men. This may be one of the reasons women do well on lower carb diets. The main thing that needs to be adjusted is one’s total caloric intake. Women need fewer calories than men because men have more muscle mass and less fat (relative to total bodyweight) than women. The amount of protein, carbs, and fat will be dictated by the amount of calories one eats.
We have shown that women do not need to train or diet much differently than men. Then why do we always see women in gym performing hours of cardio and lifting the lightest dumbbells in the gym for endless reps?
This is most-likely due to not being informed, or even misinformed (by the media), about how women should train. What about diet? One of the most common breakfast meals recommended to women is yogurt and a banana. Now there is nothing wrong with eating a yogurt and banana, but where is the protein and essential fatty acids? If you are a woman trying to gain lean muscle, you will need to eat adequate protein and good fats (essential fatty acids). It is time to stop listening to the media and misinformed individuals and time to become educated and get results. In this article, we will go over some basic diet and training information and then direct you to where YOU can get diet and training help and direction!
Men and women do not need to train differently to see results, but what about diet? Should women eat differently than men? Not really. Men’s and women’s metabolisms are very similar except that women burn a greater ratio of fat to carbs than men. This may be one of the reasons women do well on lower carb diets. The main thing that needs to be adjusted is one’s total caloric intake. Women need fewer calories than men because men have more muscle mass and less fat (relative to total bodyweight) than women. The amount of protein, carbs, and fat will be dictated by the amount of calories one eats.
We have shown that women do not need to train or diet much differently than men. Then why do we always see women in gym performing hours of cardio and lifting the lightest dumbbells in the gym for endless reps?
This is most-likely due to not being informed, or even misinformed (by the media), about how women should train. What about diet? One of the most common breakfast meals recommended to women is yogurt and a banana. Now there is nothing wrong with eating a yogurt and banana, but where is the protein and essential fatty acids? If you are a woman trying to gain lean muscle, you will need to eat adequate protein and good fats (essential fatty acids). It is time to stop listening to the media and misinformed individuals and time to become educated and get results. In this article, we will go over some basic diet and training information and then direct you to where YOU can get diet and training help and direction!
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Nice info...but wheres the article???0
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And you are a more reliable source because... ?0
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And you are a more reliable source because... ?
Look at her ticker....
Life experiences should count for more than the so called "Experts" out there. She doesn't just talk the talk, she has walked the walk.0 -
And you are a more reliable source because... ?
Look at her ticker....
Life experiences should count for more than the so called "Experts" out there. She doesn't just talk the talk, she has walked the walk.
Ha. I can't tell whether or not you're being sarcastic?0 -
And you are a more reliable source because... ?
Look at her ticker....
Life experiences should count for more than the so called "Experts" out there. She doesn't just talk the talk, she has walked the walk.
Ha. I can't tell whether or not you're being sarcastic?
No, I am not.0 -
And you are a more reliable source because... ?
Look at her ticker....
Life experiences should count for more than the so called "Experts" out there. She doesn't just talk the talk, she has walked the walk.
Ha. I can't tell whether or not you're being sarcastic?
No, I am not.
Really? I know it may have worked for her, which is awesome because she looks amazing! But anything nutrition, I would take the advice of a registered dietitian over anyone anyday.
They have degrees, they know the long term affects....it's just safer.
And....all it takes it to copy and paste the URL....then people can judge for themselves.
I don't mean to sound mean...I really don't want to. But I do statistical research on a daily basis, and sources are key.
I agree she did AWESOME! But that may not work for everyone...
just some thoughts...please don't take them meanly...I'm really not trying to be.
Take care all!0 -
She is very right, I am studying dietetics here at my university and this is one of the things they teach you in the introductory classes. Women need the amino and fatty acids too.0
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http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/womens-body-bible.html
Its an article titled "Women's Body Bible: Training, Diet & Supplementation!" by Katie Lobliner and Derek Charlebois B.S. CPT0 -
I am neither accepting nor challenging her argument. I am questioning her position as an "expert", making claims without supporting her argument.0
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I am neither accepting nor challenging her argument. I am questioning her position as an "expert", making claims without supporting her argument.
Don't recall her or anyone else saying that she was an expert.
Take the advice, don't the take the advice...but you are discussing HER rather than her advice which some consider rude and spam. Just sayin.0 -
I am neither accepting nor challenging her argument. I am questioning her position as an "expert", making claims without supporting her argument.
Agreed. And I those people (I posted this on something else)...one has a bachelors in science (we don't know if it's nutrition, because it doesn't say) and the other is a certified personal trainer...which, I'm not sure that they have any training in nutrition. Not saying all are that way, but the article doesn't say more about these people's credentials. I wish it would...it sounds like good info, but until I know their background, I am leary to trust anything they say.
And, this is no means meant to be anything mean. I just work with studies and statistical data on a daily basis, and have learned to look closer into anything someone says. And...I REALLY wish that article said more about their backgrounds. I clicked their "reference" section, and it just took me to another site that wasn't running yet.0 -
I am neither accepting nor challenging her argument. I am questioning her position as an "expert", making claims without supporting her argument.
Don't recall her or anyone else saying that she was an expert.
Take the advice, don't the take the advice...but you are discussing HER rather than her advice which some consider rude and spam. Just sayin.
In terms of HER...I think she is doing AWESOME! Keep it up girl!0 -
Don't recall her or anyone else saying that she was an expert.
Take the advice, don't the take the advice...but you are discussing HER rather than her advice which some consider rude and spam. Just sayin.
This sounds like it to me:Look at her ticker....
Life experiences should count for more than the so called "Experts" out there. She doesn't just talk the talk, she has walked the walk.
Her post is critical of "misinfomed" people (people who have believed what they've heard from media) and yet she expects people to consider her claims simply because she's made them. How would blind faith in her arguments be different from blind faith in the media's?0 -
I am neither accepting nor challenging her argument. I am questioning her position as an "expert", making claims without supporting her argument.
Agreed. And I those people (I posted this on something else)...one has a bachelors in science (we don't know if it's nutrition, because it doesn't say) and the other is a certified personal trainer...which, I'm not sure that they have any training in nutrition. Not saying all are that way, but the article doesn't say more about these people's credentials. I wish it would...it sounds like good info, but until I know their background, I am leary to trust anything they say.
And, this is no means meant to be anything mean. I just work with studies and statistical data on a daily basis, and have learned to look closer into anything someone says. And...I REALLY wish that article said more about their backgrounds. I clicked their "reference" section, and it just took me to another site that wasn't running yet.
I don't mean to be mean either. Maybe it comes from being a student - learning to back your claims with good research?0 -
This is NOT my info. I didn't post the link to the article because the 2 previous post I made had the same article info in them. This info is great info and some I am going to start taking full advantage of.
http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-ultimate-female-training-guide.html (For those of you who question this info)0 -
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! I didn't realize I needed to ALWAYS post the link where I get info oon MFP.http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/womens-body-bible.html
Its an article titled "Women's Body Bible: Training, Diet & Supplementation!" by Katie Lobliner and Derek Charlebois B.S. CPT0 -
thank you!She is very right, I am studying dietetics here at my university and this is one of the things they teach you in the introductory classes. Women need the amino and fatty acids too.0
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And you are a more reliable source because... ?
not eating the donut was a good idea, but shoving it up your *kitten* instead makes you cranky! nap time?0 -
Great info to get out there! I am glad you posted
I just recently started strength and weight training in the last month and have already seen AMAZING differences in my body! I love it and it seems I can eat more and my body burns more now that I have more lean muscle mass. I have read countless articles about the benefits of protein so I have always tried to keep my protein intake on the higher end. It keeps me feeling full much longer. I also think it is best to eat 6 small meals a day rather than 2 or 3 big ones. It really makes a difference!
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Hey Katie, Just wanted to drop in to give my support.
I canNOT believe this turned into a bash Katie fest! What is happening to MFP? The last several days I've seen more hatred and negativity than I've seen in the 2 months I've been here. I think we would all agree that we should double check information we see on the forums, as very few of us claim to be nutritionists or doctors. If you disagree with something you see on a board, be mature and quietly walk away. Thank you Katie for posting good information that the rest of us can learn from if we choose to.
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Great post! You go girl!
Funny... the way people are talking crap.
That's why you look the way you do and they... well you know. No offense or anything to anyone here, but seriously if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.0 -
I am neither accepting nor challenging her argument. I am questioning her position as an "expert", making claims without supporting her argument.
Agreed. And I those people (I posted this on something else)...one has a bachelors in science (we don't know if it's nutrition, because it doesn't say) and the other is a certified personal trainer...which, I'm not sure that they have any training in nutrition. Not saying all are that way, but the article doesn't say more about these people's credentials. I wish it would...it sounds like good info, but until I know their background, I am leary to trust anything they say.
And, this is no means meant to be anything mean. I just work with studies and statistical data on a daily basis, and have learned to look closer into anything someone says. And...I REALLY wish that article said more about their backgrounds. I clicked their "reference" section, and it just took me to another site that wasn't running yet.
I don't mean to be mean either. Maybe it comes from being a student - learning to back your claims with good research?
Me too! I'm a full time grad student, and starting my doctorate...and I'll be doing research and statistical analysis for the rest of my life. And really, this isn't meant to be mean at all. I really think the info is good info, but sadly, there are some people on here (not implying anyone...so please don't get on me for this), that believe everything they read, whether it is legit or not. So that's the only reason we like sources.
Anyways though, you are doing awesome! And if this is working for you....keep it up!0 -
Great post! You go girl!
Funny... the way people are talking crap.
That's why you look the way you do and they... well you know. No offense or anything to anyone here, but seriously if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.
Wow...I don't think anyone is bashing anything or anyone. We know these are not her words, she stated that. She is doing awesome! Keep it up!0 -
I think you may have misread my post O.o
She is doing terrific! Definitely an inspiration!!0 -
The point here is that this is pretty obviously a copy/paste from an article that was not linked to or cited from. I don't think anyone is questioning anyone else's personal integrity or intelligence or progress or whatever but the OP was just a copy/pasted intro to an article with nothing to back it up/legitimize it.0
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I am neither accepting nor challenging her argument. I am questioning her position as an "expert", making claims without supporting her argument.
Agreed. And I those people (I posted this on something else)...one has a bachelors in science (we don't know if it's nutrition, because it doesn't say) and the other is a certified personal trainer...which, I'm not sure that they have any training in nutrition. Not saying all are that way, but the article doesn't say more about these people's credentials. I wish it would...it sounds like good info, but until I know their background, I am leary to trust anything they say.
And, this is no means meant to be anything mean. I just work with studies and statistical data on a daily basis, and have learned to look closer into anything someone says. And...I REALLY wish that article said more about their backgrounds. I clicked their "reference" section, and it just took me to another site that wasn't running yet.
I don't mean to be mean either. Maybe it comes from being a student - learning to back your claims with good research?
Me too! I'm a full time grad student, and starting my doctorate...and I'll be doing research and statistical analysis for the rest of my life. And really, this isn't meant to be mean at all. I really think the info is good info, but sadly, there are some people on here (not implying anyone...so please don't get on me for this), that believe everything they read, whether it is legit or not. So that's the only reason we like sources.
Anyways though, you are doing awesome! And if this is working for you....keep it up!
Thank you! I agree, there people who believe everything they read, and I think this can be dangerous. I was just trying to point out that we should all question the source when we hear new information, especially information that could impact our health.0 -
The last several days I've seen more hatred and negativity than I've seen in the 2 months I've been here.
I agree... I too have been a little negative (and I am sorry) but I have seen a lot of rude stuff the past week or so.... Maybe its cabin fever setting in from this long winter....
Offcial Apology to anyone that has sensed my negativity.... I am sorry.0 -
Wow.. Shouldn't we just be saying "Thanks, great post!" I mean seriously, look at her pictures. LOOK at her progress. Does she seem like the type of person that would post misinforming information?
It's a good post. It's legit information coming from an outstanding example of SUCCESS.
Geez.0 -
Dang who woulda thunk such a benign article couldbe such a controvesy! I will say everyone should do their OWN research and consult a doctor with questions. And as to why I would be lifting smaller weights in the gym than men...because I want petite biceps! lol not manly ones! Thank you for this info
And I agree with what you said about the protein and fatty acids...actually I thought that was common knowledge but apparently not!
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Dang who woulda thunk such a benign article couldbe such a controvesy! I will say everyone should do their OWN research and consult a doctor with questions. And as to why I would be lifting smaller weights in the gym than men...because I want petite biceps! lol not manly ones! Thank you for this info
And I agree with what you said about the protein and fatty acids...actually I thought that was common knowledge but apparently not!
The idea behind women lifting little weights is basically bull****. There's almost no way we can look like Mr. Universe without steroids - the hormones in female bodies do not allow for that kind of muscle building in a normal situation. Yes, there are exceptions and I'm fully aware of that but the way to get 'petite' muscles is actually to lift heavy weights. That's how you get lean and 'toned'.0
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