Food Label Lies - you won't FREAKING Believe this!

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  • jaycab1
    jaycab1 Posts: 5
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    Bump for later. Thanks
  • therobinator
    therobinator Posts: 832 Member
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    And to follow-up on what I said before, that video also assumes that we are calculating our calorie *burn* 100% accurately, 100% of the time. How do we know that each HRM is not a little different than the nex, that it's not missing a heartbeat every so often because of our bodily movements, that all the burn calculators we find online are accurate enough, etc. Also, how do we really, truly know that the nutritional numbers that we have been relying on for all these years for, for example, pure raw oatmeal or chicken breast by the gram, aren't also 5% off? How do we know that the lab who measured that in the first place didn't make a small mistake or miscalculation, or that their scientific method could or couldn't have been better? Who can say that every single solitary 100 grams of raw chicken breast *always* has precisely 110 calories? Maybe that chicken over there has 115 calories and that other one next to it has 105 calories, due to goodness knows what contributing factors. How do we know for sure that the batch of tomatoes we bought today weren't grown in different soil, with different fertilizer and a different amount of water and sun than the previous crop, thus making them 10-15% different nutrition-wise than the last batch we bought? How do we know that the calories per gram of raw apples doesn't change even minutely from harvest to harvest, based on any number of factors like these listed above?

    We simply can't. And we shouldn't worry of such small things.

    All I am saying is that nothing is 100% accurate. While this certainly doesn't give manufacturers leeway to lie, or even leeway for them to make mistakes of a certain degree given informtion (correct or not) that we are all universally using -- and all that definitely speaks to the reasons why whole foods are better than anything packaged, processed or premade -- I think that for us to try to control everything with regard to those whole foods all the time to a perfect level of exactness, will only drive ourselves crazy. The human body is a magical machine, and as long as we are not abusing it constantly, or overeating all the time, or starving it too much/too regularly, it always adjusts for these small variations and keeps itself in check.

    Don't strress, people; just do what you know is good for you and it will all work out in the end.
  • 3LittleMonkeys
    3LittleMonkeys Posts: 373 Member
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    So true. I tell my clients this all the time. And those of you who know me, know how big of an advocate I am of weighing food, rather than measuring it by volume (measuring cups).

    Remember that this 20% margin is COMMON especially in frozen prepared meals (e.g., Lean Cuisine, etc.) and meals from restaurants (often higher than 20%). Most trainers propose the rule of thumb that if folks eat these products much, to add 20% to their calorie count just to be safe (e.g, 180 calories on the label is 180 *1.2 = 216). A side benefit is that when folks have to do this often, they frequently get tired of the caloric 'rip offs' and start moving toward unprocessed foods that they make themselves (and that's something we trainers like to see!).


    There was a big news thing about frozen meals 6 months or so ago. The frozen diet meals were way off.
  • 3LittleMonkeys
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  • therobinator
    therobinator Posts: 832 Member
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    The human body is a magical machine, and as long as we are not abusing it constantly, or overeating all the time, or starving it too much/too regularly, it always adjusts for these small variations and keeps itself in check.

    And this is why our weight fluctuates, throughout a day, day to day, week to week, even month to month. I feel that as long as we stay within a given range of weight/fitness, then we should be pleased, satisfied and happy. :)
  • healthyjen342
    healthyjen342 Posts: 1,435 Member
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    WOW! Fantastic post...Thank you for posting!
  • watch48win
    watch48win Posts: 1,668 Member
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    Case in point. I bought Red Mill Oat Bran a couple of months ago. Calories 80 per serving......just bought a new package and now the calorie count is 120 per serving. WTH? Same serving size and nothing in the ingrediants has changed. GRRR
  • Barelmy
    Barelmy Posts: 590 Member
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    And if this is what's happening with packaged food, just imagine in a restaurant where they are cooking things fresh. An extra pat of butter or fattier cut of meat and you're eating way more than you think :frown:

    I'm not going to lie; I work at Papa John's (I know, why am I here? I'm destined to be fat!!).

    I'll see your Papa Johns and raise you a vegan McDonalds worker.;p

    Do you get free meals every shift too? Every single one of my coworkers - including me - put on at least ten pounds in the first month or so from that. I stopped eating them a few months back, except for the odd salad when I cba to pack a lunch in the morning.

    One thing about McDs fries; the packets are supposed to be half empty. There's a certain technique to filling them so all the fries stay straight up, and the packet doesn't pop open fully.

    Once, a manager spent a day carefully measuring flurries on a scale; they were consistently over the required amount. There's a trick to that too, making it look full, but actually be half empty.

    Then there's the simple fact that, when McDs first opened, a basic meal was a hamburger, fries, and a drink, and the fries and drink were what we now call 'small' (kiddie in the US?). That's a kid's meal now, and it's plenty of food for an adult.
  • therobinator
    therobinator Posts: 832 Member
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    Case in point. I bought Red Mill Oat Bran a couple of months ago. Calories 80 per serving......just bought a new package and now the calorie count is 120 per serving. WTH? Same serving size and nothing in the ingrediants has changed. GRRR

    I noticed the same thing with Lactaid Skim Milk....it used to say 80 calories per cup, now it says 90....and this is just plain milk, basically a whole food....hence my point about a possibly flawed scientific method or things chancing from crop to crop, harvest to harvest, and in this case cow to cow I guess.
  • therobinator
    therobinator Posts: 832 Member
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    I'll see your Papa Johns and raise you a vegan McDonalds worker.;p

    Do you get free meals every shift too? Every single one of my coworkers - including me - put on at least ten pounds in the first month or so from that. I stopped eating them a few months back, except for the odd salad when I cba to pack a lunch in the morning.

    One thing about McDs fries; the packets are supposed to be half empty. There's a certain technique to filling them so all the fries stay straight up, and the packet doesn't pop open fully.

    Once, a manager spent a day carefully measuring flurries on a scale; they were consistently over the required amount. There's a trick to that too, making it look full, but actually be half empty.

    Then there's the simple fact that, when McDs first opened, a basic meal was a hamburger, fries, and a drink, and the fries and drink were what we now call 'small' (kiddie in the US?). That's a kid's meal now, and it's plenty of food for an adult.

    Oh dear, let's not get started on Mickey D;'s. We could write encyclopdeias about them! Lol.
  • jkleman79
    jkleman79 Posts: 706 Member
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    U wanna talk about something crazy..my trainer used to work for applebees.. The vinaigrette dressing that they use for their healthy salads etc is left over chicken fat and sugar. That totally grossed me out!! Oh and the appetizer sampler not counting the ranch everyone uses is 2500 calories alone...add some ranch and you are at 3000 for an appetizer....OUCH!
  • RMinVA
    RMinVA Posts: 1,085 Member
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    I have known that for sometime now.

    Here is another eye opener for you.about why you should use a scale when measuring calorie dense foods.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    But on the other hand (I'm playing devil's advocate here):

    Human beings have gotten along for millions of years without measuring everything exactly and concurrently without being overweight....because our bodies tell us what we need, on what days we need more food, on what days we need less food (to balance out the days we had too much), etc. So, while yes, this video certainly proves a point, unless a person is absolutely consistently measuring wrong (and never just doing what feels right for a particular day/meal - i.e. naturally balancing the diet), the video won't necessarily hold true.

    Just saying. Not trying to debate. Peace. :)

    You are actually very correct. It is not about the # of calories we consume, but the nutritional value of the food we eat. The more nutrient dense the food is - the less we will eat and our body will be satisfied with no cravings.

    Even Weight Watchers is now owning up to the fact that it is not about the # of calories consumed. Weight loss and health is not as simple as the mathetical equation they try to make it out to be. Has nothing to do with calories period.

    Read this article.............

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/09/weight-watchers-finally-recognizes-calorie-counting-doesnt-work.aspx



    We need to listen to our bodies!!!

    I often say it's simple math, but it's not that simple.

    I agree with your points. There are so many things that have contributed to the rising obesity epidemic in this country. And the quality of food that we get is certainly a big piece of the puzzle. I also often say that not all calories are created equal. Measuring everything is a relatively "new" phenomenon. But thousands of years ago we scavenged for our food and often went hungry: we were true locavores with very little choice about what to eat. You ate what you found. Then a little over 100 years ago we really began that shift from an agrarian society to an industrial one. Up until about 60 years ago we walked or rode bikes everywhere and still made, and probably even grew, a lot of our own food. Milk and cheese were straight from the dairy and bread from a bakery. And we didn't have the overwhelming assortment of Frankenfoods on the shelves. And there you have it....extreme changes in diet and exercise...that really only goes back about 50 years.

    I think the weighing comes in handy because we have a very skewed idea of what a "serving" is. My first 30# just fell off when I pulled out the measuring cups. I was eating healthy, but I was still eating too much. I have moved to using a scale as the loss has stopped: I don't eat a lot of processed foods as it is, so that was my next step.
  • jahnlaw
    jahnlaw Posts: 95 Member
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    I suppose this is another reason why I must be losing weight when I don't eat 100% of my allowed calories. Between the 20% labels problem and the 30% exaggerated calorie burns on those cardio machines it is no wonder I never lost weight with when I thought I should have.