Too few calories hinders weight loss?

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Hey all! This is my first message board post. :) So I've heard this said before, that if you eat too little it may hinder you from losing weight because your body will start to try to conserve it's fat. Does anyone know the real science of this? I'm doing pretty well eating what MFP recommends (and exercising a bit) but the weight loss isn't happening yet, so I'd like to eat fewer to try to start getting the pounds off. Advice?

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  • Sarahr73
    Sarahr73 Posts: 454 Member
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    I don't know the real science, but I have been told many times not to go below 1200 calories per day. I know adding water, fruits, and veggies to your diet will help with your weight loss. I know I used to drink maybe 4 cups of water per day and now I drink 8-10 depending on my activity level. I also upped my fruit intake. I shed quite a bit right away from just those changes. But, it was mainly water weight. If you open up your diary, we can see if there is anything that stands out that may be hindering your weight loss food wise.
  • 4theking
    4theking Posts: 1,196 Member
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    Your metabolism can and will slow down on a caloric deficit. Typically, the bigger the deficit, the faster the slow down will occur. It occurs through hormone manipulation. If you do want to go lower calorie you must include one day of surplus calories to boost hormone production and keep your metabolism running high. Also, when the deficit is greater, less exercise is advised because of increased risk of metabolism crash and excess cortisol.
  • Newfiedan
    Newfiedan Posts: 1,517 Member
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    what it boils down to is an energy used vs energy needed to maintain the body. The 1200 cals the recommend is the minimum needed to keep the body going unless you are a much smaller person. Energy in vs energy out is what gives you the net caloric goals. When you get on here and put in your goal weight and what weight you are they already work in a deficit to help you reach that goal right off the crack of the bat. I highly recommend that if you are just starting out to not set it any higher than a pound a week as slow weight loss has been proven time and again to be most effective long term solution. I have posted many posts regarding the common mistakes made by both women and men regarding this very issue. Check out my blog if you like and read about some of the things that will help you get on the right path and keep you trucking along at a happy pace. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Newfiedan
  • melissatacker
    melissatacker Posts: 91 Member
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    Well I can't speak for the science part of it but it's true for me! The last two weeks I haven't lost anything and I went from eating 1700 calories a day to 1000...so now I decided to kick the calories back up to 1700 and I'm starting to lose again...it doesn't make much sense but it seems to be right :)
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
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    There may not be any real, hard science behind it, no specific studies, but it's true. Everyone's body and metabolism are different, so it makes studying this issue a little difficult. There is a threshold for everyone's metabolism, a point when the body will stop burning fat and will store it instead. That number of calories and the amount of time it takes your body to decide it isn't getting enough are different for each person. It takes a little experimentation to figure out where your point is. In my case, it only takes a week or two of getting less than 1400 net calories a day before I stop losing weight. Other people can eat fewer calories and can go for longer amount of time before their body stops burning fat.
  • owlservice
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    Hey all,

    Out of curiosity do you think that I am eating too little? I am pretty active with exercise, I run between 15-20 miles a week and do core exercises every other day.

    I struggle to eat all my calories. For example on Sunday after my 8 mile run I had to eat 2,817 calories but by the end of the day I still hadn't eaten 1,214.

    Can someone check my profile and intakes and recommend any course of action. I ask as I really do not feel that hungry. For example I have just finished food and exercise for the day and still had 493 calories spare. My daily intake today was 1766 cals.

    I currently weigh 159.8lb but would like to get to 154lb.

    Many thanks,
    Karl
  • 4theking
    4theking Posts: 1,196 Member
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    Well I can't speak for the science part of it but it's true for me! The last two weeks I haven't lost anything and I went from eating 1700 calories a day to 1000...so now I decided to kick the calories back up to 1700 and I'm starting to lose again...it doesn't make much sense but it seems to be right :)

    Hormones play a huge role in body composition. Their importance can not be over stated. Thats what, eating your exercise calories, calorie cycling, and carb cycling are all about.....hormone regulation.
  • melzteach
    melzteach Posts: 550 Member
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    The principle behind weight loss is simple: you either have to burn more or eat fewer calories. To lose weight, you need to create an energy (or calorie) deficit by eating fewer calories, increasing the number of calories you burn through physical activity, or both. Typically, what is recommended as the safest method is a combination of eating fewer calories and burning calories through physical activity.

    Determining a safe daily calorie deficit can be difficult because every person is different when it comes to baseline metabolism, body size and composition, sex, age, and level of physical activity. What is easy to determine, however, is the fact that 3,500 calories equals about one pound of fat. Therefore you have to burn 3,500 calories MORE than you take in to lose one pound.

    For example, if you cut 500 calories from your diet every day, you would lose about one pound a week. Or, if you are physically active, you can eat 250 calories less every day and burn 250 calories per day with your workout. Ideally, according to the Mayo Clinic, you do not want to lose more than one to two pounds per week, which means a safe calorie deficit would be to burn 500 to 1,000 calories per day through a reduced calorie diet AND exercise.

    Determining a safe minimum amount of daily calories can be difficult as well for the same reasons listed above. However, extreme restriction of consumed calories can significantly slow the metabolic rate, and hinder your weight loss goals. The American College of Sports Medicine states that you SHOULDN'T send signals to your body to conserve calories by detoxing or fasting. They recommend that women should eat at least 1,200 calories per day, and men should eat at least 1,800.

    The reason that the metabolic rate slows with prolonged dieting of less than 1,200 calories per day is a chain reaction of physiologic responses to the stress associated with such a restricted diet. Your body initially adapts to the stress of low caloric intake by engaging the "fight or flight" stress response, which has several negative consequences, despite you seeing lower numbers on the scale. The "fight or flight" response stimulates the breakdown of muscle in order to supply the body with enough fuel (glucose) to maintain the blood sugar levels in the absence of sufficient dietary calories. This "fight or flight" stress response will eventually wear out, thus slowing the metabolic rate to compensate for what the body perceives as starvation.
    Some studies referenced at LiveStrong.com indicate that long-term dieting and calorie restriction can lower your metabolism by up to 40 percent and can take up to one year to correct.

    The thing to remember is: BALANCE IS KEY. Visit MyPyramid.gov to see your specific food pyramid. There are food pyramids available for all types of diet - basic, vegetarian, low carbs, and more.

    For example if your pyramid notes that most of your nutrients need to come from whole grains and veggies, then your calories for the day should reflect this as well.

    Plan meals in advance. By planning in advance, you won't run out of calories by midday. If you need some menu ideas take a look at this great article; 1200 Calorie Diet Sample Menu. Don't forget to work in filling, low-calorie snacks into your diet plan!
  • KSherman27
    KSherman27 Posts: 7 Member
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    Hey, I have a hard time figuring out how many calories I need to take in to lose weight. I was eating between 1300 and 1450 calories before I started to work out. Now I exercise for about an hour at least five times a week so I was thinking I also needed around 1700 or 1800 calories. I weigh 171 and I am trying to get down to 145 pounds at 5'3.
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
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    Hey, I have a hard time figuring out how many calories I need to take in to lose weight. I was eating between 1300 and 1450 calories before I started to work out. Now I exercise for about an hour at least five times a week so I was thinking I also needed around 1700 or 1800 calories. I weigh 171 and I am trying to get down to 145 pounds at 5'3.

    did you try inputting your numbers...exercise burn etc...into MFP and doing what it says? I mean..you have this tool in your hand, why not use it?
  • digyan
    digyan Posts: 7 Member
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    The main concern is too few initial calories will hinder SUSTAINED weight loss. Almost everyone will plateau at some point which leaves eating less or moving more or both. If your initial deficit is too aggressive, you will have nothing left to cut from your diet or much energy to move more, and it is potentially damaging your hormones and metabolism.

    It's best to do the minimal amount of work to lose weight longer than to use all your life lines and have nowhere to go. Ideally you should be eating at the minimal deficit required to lose 0.5% (if leaner) to 1% (if fatter) of bodyweight per week. Shave a 50-100 calories off when you plateau or add some cardio once you have no more food to cut.
  • mrloserpunk
    mrloserpunk Posts: 92 Member
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    Hey, I have a hard time figuring out how many calories I need to take in to lose weight. I was eating between 1300 and 1450 calories before I started to work out. Now I exercise for about an hour at least five times a week so I was thinking I also needed around 1700 or 1800 calories. I weigh 171 and I am trying to get down to 145 pounds at 5'3.

    If your doing cardio, consider an heart rate monitor. That gives me confidence in my numbers and makes it easier to add in!
  • RaggedyPond
    RaggedyPond Posts: 1,487 Member
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    I have a very fast heart rate and my HRM was lying to me. I was only maintaining while going by what it said. About 1600-1700 cals a day seems to be my magic number.