Are you over training?
pyro13g
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http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/overtraining/a/aa062499a.htm
"Common Warning Signs and Symptoms of Overtraining Syndrome
* Washed-out feeling, tired, drained, lack of energy
* Mild leg soreness, general aches and pains
* Pain in muscles and joints
* Sudden drop in performance
* Insomnia
* Headaches
* Decreased immunity (increased number of colds, and sore throats)
* Decrease in training capacity / intensity
* Moodiness and irritability
* Depression
* Loss of enthusiasm for the sport
* Decreased appetite
* Increased incidence of injuries.
* A compulsive need to exercise "
"Common Warning Signs and Symptoms of Overtraining Syndrome
* Washed-out feeling, tired, drained, lack of energy
* Mild leg soreness, general aches and pains
* Pain in muscles and joints
* Sudden drop in performance
* Insomnia
* Headaches
* Decreased immunity (increased number of colds, and sore throats)
* Decrease in training capacity / intensity
* Moodiness and irritability
* Depression
* Loss of enthusiasm for the sport
* Decreased appetite
* Increased incidence of injuries.
* A compulsive need to exercise "
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Errr. Yes. To just about all of those!0
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Thanks for those tips, been feeling some of those but I have backed off on all the activities I was doing!! Take care :-)0
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Thanks so much...had no idea!:flowerforyou:0
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http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/overtraining/a/aa062499a.htm
"Common Warning Signs and Symptoms of Overtraining Syndrome
* Washed-out feeling, tired, drained, lack of energy
* Mild leg soreness, general aches and pains
* Pain in muscles and joints
* Sudden drop in performance
* Insomnia
* Headaches
* Decreased immunity (increased number of colds, and sore throats)
* Decrease in training capacity / intensity
* Moodiness and irritability
* Depression
* Loss of enthusiasm for the sport
* Decreased appetite
* Increased incidence of injuries.
* A compulsive need to exercise "
wow I think I experienced just about all of this 2 wks ago - I make it a point to have a rest day. I completely get it now0 -
Thanks so much for posting this! This helped me a lot. I'm taking a rest week, only because I'm sick though.0
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Wow, that list is disturbing.
But I felt most of those my first week to week and 1/2 of starting my current program.0 -
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Today is my day of rest and I am already anxious over it. I might take a little walk.0
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Well now I have about 6 of those....Whats that mean???????:grumble:0
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Today is my day of rest and I am already anxious over it. I might take a little walk.
Oh my goodness right!!!Thats me0 -
That's a list of symptoms that everyone goes through from time to time. It's a LOT harder to "over train" than most people think.
That list sounds like the list of side-effects you see on medication commercials, complete overkill.0 -
Rest is as important to weight loss/training goals as any other factor, probably even more for some goals. It really sucks when overtraining hit's you full force and you lose ton's of muscle, are sick, debilitated, depressed, etc.. Been there once, never again. Tough lesson to learn. I suppose I should have mentioned over reaching too so here y'all go.
http://www.active.com/triathlon/Articles/How_to_Tell_When_You_re_Over-Reaching_or_Over-Training.htm0 -
Been there...took a week off and started back at a less intense pace.0
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That's a list of symptoms that everyone goes through from time to time. It's a LOT harder to "over train" than most people think.
That list sounds like the list of side-effects you see on medication commercials, complete overkill.
Ignore it and see what happens. i suppose you are a Phd that has some irrefutable info that makes every other training professional wrong.
It is not hard to over train at all. You see it all the time and it's the cause of many peoples failures and off the wagon episodes. It's horrible stress on the body0 -
That's a list of symptoms that everyone goes through from time to time. It's a LOT harder to "over train" than most people think.
That list sounds like the list of side-effects you see on medication commercials, complete overkill.
Over training it not "a LOT harder" than most people think. It is very easy to over train and cause your progress to be hindered. It is not something that happens very often when a person it just starting out because they are so un-fit that their body is going to be in shock pretty much no matter what they do. After they get into some sort of fit state, the obsessive exercise some do can quickly result in overtraining especially if they are always pushing as hard as they can. I have over trained in the past, and currently am getting close to it again, hence I am incorporating more rest days and changing up the type of exercise I do to allow things to strengthen.0 -
Wow!
I didn't get the impression that he was disputing the list, just saying that it may have been overstated.
Let's remember that "A LOT harder" and "EASY to do" are both subjective terms.0 -
Huh!!! I never thought I over train!!! I really think these symptons are something everyone may experienced over time. Due to their every day ho- hum......0
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I think it's pretty common to experience some of these things in the couple of weeks after starting to exercise.
I remember when I was taking karate, that was only 1-1.5 hours twice a week. Most of those years I took a break over the summer, and when I came back in September the first week or two would be good and the third would be pretty awful. Then it would get easier again after a couple more weeks. I doubt I was overtraining but that third week I did feel washed-out, achey, and lacked enthusiasm and performance. By week 5 those feelings were pretty much gone.
The lengths of time are a little different but I go through something similar every fall, when going back to school means going back to the gym. And that's anything between 40 and 90 minutes three times a week...
I'm not totally inactive the rest of the time--there are often also doggie walks and Wii Fit, and the occasional day of skiing, swimming or cycling. At school I probably spend about half an hour a day walking, carrying a pretty heavy backpack. When weather permits I often walk to work, and my job is one that keeps me on my feet.
I think this needs some qualifications. A lot of those symptoms could have other causes. How about adding "If you feel this way for more than (a week? Two weeks?) you may be overtraining"?0 -
Excessive laziness has the same symptoms, how weird is that!0
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http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/overtraining/a/aa062499a.htm
"Common Warning Signs and Symptoms of Overtraining Syndrome
* Washed-out feeling, tired, drained, lack of energy
* Mild leg soreness, general aches and pains
* Pain in muscles and joints
* Sudden drop in performance
* Insomnia
* Headaches
* Decreased immunity (increased number of colds, and sore throats)
* Decrease in training capacity / intensity
* Moodiness and irritability
* Depression
* Loss of enthusiasm for the sport
* Decreased appetite
* Increased incidence of injuries.
* A compulsive need to exercise "
wow I think I experienced just about all of this 2 wks ago - I make it a point to have a rest day. I completely get it now
Why not take two? Face it your body needs time to recover anyways.
Adding an extra day of rest a week will make you better prepared for your next work out.
Personnally I am a runner... I run 4 days a week, cross train on a 5th and take every Monday and Friday off of training.
My heaviest workouts are usually done on weekends.0 -
Excessive laziness has the same symptoms, how weird is that!
Because using "overtraining" as an excuse to skip a workout, is lazy0 -
Huh!!! I never thought I over train!!! I really think these symptons are something everyone may experienced over time. Due to their every day ho- hum......
Exactly, those are also symptoms of depresssion, hypothyroidism, influenza, and about a thousand other illnesses. If you want to take a day off because you don't feel well, by all means, but don't call it "overtraining" just because you want to justify taking two or three days off a week.0 -
That's a list of symptoms that everyone goes through from time to time. It's a LOT harder to "over train" than most people think.
That list sounds like the list of side-effects you see on medication commercials, complete overkill.
Ignore it and see what happens. i suppose you are a Phd that has some irrefutable info that makes every other training professional wrong.
It is not hard to over train at all. You see it all the time and it's the cause of many peoples failures and off the wagon episodes. It's horrible stress on the body
You don't need a phd to recognize that human body is more resilient than anyone gives it credit for. Here's one, instead of succumbing to those symptoms, push through them and experience what it's like to overcome an obstacle. People in general would rather be lazy than tough.
If overtaining is so easy, why do Dos, Cosgrove, etc and the other strength and conditioning coaches in this country who see real results (you know, not the BS personal trainers at your local gym) push their programs that include 6-7 days a week of training? Dos' books recommend an "unloading" week every 12 weeks. What does that consist of? skipping ONE workout in 12 weeks, or just going with lighter weights for a week and doing the same workouts. No where does he recommend..."If you feel like you've got the flu take a month off you're overtraining."0 -
I like to deload every 6 weeks or so. I'll take four or five days off from weightlifting, but I don't just lay around the house. I stay active, maybe more running or whatever. It seems crazy but these are the time I get the worse sleep, and have the lowest energy.0
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I overtrained once to the point I could not elevate my heart rate above around 125.0
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Because I can't just let things go:
Here's a response to the topic of overtraining from Robert dos Remedios, MA, CSCS; 2006 NSCA college strength coach of the year, Director of strength and conditioning at College of the Canyons in California. If you won't take my word for it, listen to an expert in the field and someone who has written articles for Men's Health, Men's Fitness, etc:
"I think we baby ourselves too much. Our problems in the gym, society ….hell, life in general are NOT coming from people working TOO HARD. It's coming from NOT DOING ENOUGH.
I am not really liking this whole kinder-gentler, touchy-feely, rehab style of 'training'. I think the pendulum will swing back the other way but right now seem to be obsessed with activation, mobilization, screening, NOT doing things because we 'can't' based on some assessment etc. Pick up heavy ****, work until you think you're gonna die at times, train hard and push the envelope and RELISH this amazing thing that is your body.
We need to rest, there's no doubt…..but I think we take things too far when it comes to 'over training'.
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I work out with a trainer twice a week and run regularly. Last year I had a strained medial meniscus and achilles tendonitis in the opposite leg. I think that we just need to listen to what our bodies tell us. I heed certain aches and pains with extreme caution to avoid reinjury. I love working out and overdoing it last year cost me 6 weeks of no exercise since I could barely put weight on my knee. Everyone has made good points but the bottom line is we each need to do what is best for us individually.0
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