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  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
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    I find that when I want pasta, nothing else will do except pasta! So I make sure that my sauce is so jam packed with veggies that I only need a very small amount of actual pasta on my plate - I get the satisfaction of eating pasta, but get tons of veggies and don't have to feel guilty!

    I do the same thing! One ounce of pasta and pound of vegetables.
  • beccafertig
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    If I eat past, its wheat pasta! At least its better for you.

    Are low-glycemic carbs counted differently than regular carbs when calculating for insulin dose?

    Generally in carbohydrate counting (whether or not an insulin dose is calculated) a carb is counted as a carb, regardless of it's glycemic index. With that said, individuals that monitor glycemic index, choosing foods/beverages with a lower glycemic index more often, may succeed in fine tuning blood glucose (blood glucose) control.

    Everyone who entered Dreamfields Pasta in foods and put a serving as only 5g of carbs per serving is incorrect. A carb is a Carb and should be counted as so according to Dreamfields website. It does not cause as much of a spike in bloodsugar as other pasta but is still the same carb. Disappointing, I was hoping too!

    Here's a long, but very interesting read on dreamfields pasta...

    Dr. Anfinsen runs TechCom Group LLC, one of the partners of DNA Dreamfields LLC, the group that develops, manufactures and markets Dreamfields pasta and the unique technology behind it. TechCom's objective is to improve of the quality of the nutrition in food. According to Anfinsen, they "put under the microscope, so to speak, how the body uses food and how to maximize the nutritional benefit the body receives."

    The Story Behind "Digestible Carbs"

    Dreamfields pasta is unique in the low-carb marketplace in that they do not claim "net carbs" on their label, but instead claim "digestible carbs."

    Net carbs, you probably know, is a number that food manufacturers arrive at by taking the total carbohydrate content of a serving of their product, and subtracting the fiber, sugar alcohols, glycerine and other carbohydrate ingredients that have a negligible impact on blood sugar. This number can be questionable, especially with sugar alcohols, as the various sugar alcohols have different effects on blood sugar, and there is some debate over whether sugar alcohols can legitimately be subtracted when calculating net carbs.

    Digestible carbs, by contrast, is the total amount of carbohydrate that is digested in the upper GI tract and enters the bloodstream, as measured in human test subjects. It is worth noting that Dreamfields has a group of 45 test subjects, and that every batch of Dreamfields pasta is tested in vivo as part of their quality control process.

    Anfinsen could not describe in detail the process by which digestible carbs are measured, due to a pending patent. They have submitted a provisional patent application that will be converted into a standard patent application sometime in the next couple of months. Patent applications are published prior to approval, so we should be able to read the patent application by sometime early next year.

    How Dreamfields Lowers Digestible Carbs

    I asked Dr. Anfinsen if he could explain how adding their blend of fibers and proteins to Dreamfields pasta "protects" the carbohydrate from being digested, and whether or not this fiber/protein blend acted as a "built-in carb-blocker." While I have to admit I did not fully understand the answer, he said, "Yes, you could look at it that way." Anfinsen describes the fiber/protein blend as "a matrix that is dispersed throughout the product. This matrix acts as a barrier that inhibits the ability of enzymes to digest the carbohydrate."

    So what is a "matrix?" Anfinsen uses the following analogy: Say you lay a sheet of paper on your desk. Now say you want to move an object from the left side of your desk to the right. The sheet of paper acts as an obstacle. The more sheets of paper you stack up, the harder it is to move things from one side of your desk to the other.

    Similarly, the fiber/protein blend in Dreamfields pasta prevents the enzymes necessary for the digestion of carbohydrates from reaching the carbohydrates in your digestive tract (though in three dimensions, rather than the two in the analogy).

    According to Anfinsen, the more of this blend they add to the food product, the fewer carbohydrates that get digested. They could, for example, manufacture pasta with zero grams of digestible carbs. The 5g per serving number was chosen for marketing reasons. Dreamfields pasta is intended to be a healthful, mainstream replacement for ordinary pasta; not just a niche product aimed at serious low-carb dieters. Because Dreamfields would like to see their products replace traditional pasta in school lunchrooms, for example, they felt it was necessary to have some digestible carbohydrates in the product.

    Low Carbohydrate or Low Glycemic?

    I also asked Dr. Anfinsen how we can know that Dreamfields pasta is truly a low-carbohydrate product, and not just a food with a low-glycemic index. In other words, when they test the blood sugar of the subjects who eat their pasta, what exactly are they measuring?

    The glycemic index is a numerical system of measuring how fast a carbohydrate triggers a rise in circulating blood sugar; the greater the blood sugar response, the higher the number. Glycemic load is a numerical system that takes into account the glycemic index of a food as well as how much available carbohydrate is in a serving of that food.

    You can calculate a food's glycemic load by dividing it's glycemic index by 100 and then multiplying by the number of grams of available carbohydrate (e.g., carbohydrates minus fiber). For example, an medium apple with a glycemic index of 28 and 16g of available carbohydrate would have a glycemic load of 4 ((28/100)*16=4.48, rounded to 4).

    Similarly, you can measure the glycemic index and the glycemic load of a given food and run the calculation in reverse to obtain the amount of available carbohydrate.

    This is essentially what Dreamfields has done. They varied the amount of the fiber/protein blend they added to their pasta until they got the blood sugar response they were looking for. They could have made it with more or less available carbohydrate, but 5g per serving was the target number they were shooting for.

    So Is it Fiber?

    Given that the carbohydrate in Dreamfields pasta is rendered mostly indigestible and passes to through to the lower GI where it is fermented by the bacteria in the colon, you might wonder why they don't call it fiber. After all, that's exactly what soluble fiber does. Insoluble fiber passes through the entire digestive tract undigested, but soluble fiber is partially or completely fermented by the bacteria in the colon, helping to maintain the health of your intestinal flora.

    In other words, Dreamfields technology makes ordinary semolina flour act as if it were fiber. It passes through the upper GI tract and is completely fermented in the colon. So is it fiber?

    The answer, for now, is no. The reason is that, in the United States at least, calling something fiber is subject to various governmental regulations, though even this is subject to change. For example, 10 years ago polydextrose could not be listed on the nutrition label as fiber; today it can. Anfinsen says that there is a movement to allow fiber content to be determined by clinical assays rather than traditional definitions. If this happens, you may see Dreamfields pasta listing 37g of fiber per serving on their label.

    But even if it can't legally be called fiber yet, is Dreamfields pasta going to improve colon health and digestion in the same way that soluble fibers do? "Absolutely," says Anfinsen.

    I also wanted to know if Dreamfields pasta would be a problem for people with intestinal disorders, such as irritable bowel syndrome, Crohn's disease or colitis? According to Anfinsen, "No. Dreamfields pasta ferments completely, but it does not 'flash ferment.'" Fiber-containing products with "loosely bound molecules" ferment more rapidly, and higher in the colon, causing gas and bloating. Because Dreamfields pasta ferments more slowly, and starts fermenting lower in the colon, it does not have this problem. Moreover, because the fiber contained in Dreamfields pasta is entirely soluble, there isn't the intestinal irritation that might be associated with insoluble fibers.

    What's the Real Difference Between "Net Carbs" and "Digestible Carbs"?
    If the additional carbs are not digested, is there really any difference between "net carbs" and "digestible carbs" other than a semantic one? Apparently not. The two are measured in different ways but, excluding the issue of whether or not you can subtract sugar alcohols when calculating net carbs, the end result should be the same.

    What is the Future of this Technology?

    Dreamfields pasta is only the first product to implement this patent pending food technology from TechCom Group. TechCom has licensed, and is in negotiations to license this technology to other large food manufacturers. In addition, they are working with the FDA to help educate regulators and the public about this new way of protecting carbohydrates from digestion and measuring digestible carbohydrates through clinical assays.

    In my previous article, I pointed out that Dreamfields needed to do a better job communicating why their products are low-carb despite the fact that they are not loaded with fiber and other ingredients that reduce the net carbs. Now I know why: Discussions about your colon and your blood just don't make good marketing copy.

    Over the next year, as we begin to see new food products coming to market using the same carbohydrate-lowering and measuring technologies used in Dreamfields pasta, I hope manufacturers will find a way to more adequately communicate the concept of digestible carbs.
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
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    If I eat past, its wheat pasta! At least its better for you.

    Are low-glycemic carbs counted differently than regular carbs when calculating for insulin dose?

    Generally in carbohydrate counting (whether or not an insulin dose is calculated) a carb is counted as a carb, regardless of it's glycemic index. With that said, individuals that monitor glycemic index, choosing foods/beverages with a lower glycemic index more often, may succeed in fine tuning blood glucose (blood glucose) control.

    Everyone who entered Dreamfields Pasta in foods and put a serving as only 5g of carbs per serving is incorrect. A carb is a Carb and should be counted as so according to Dreamfields website. It does not cause as much of a spike in bloodsugar as other pasta but is still the same carb. Disappointing, I was hoping too!

    Here's a long, but very interesting read on dreamfields pasta...

    Dr. Anfinsen runs TechCom Group LLC, one of the partners of DNA Dreamfields LLC, the group that develops, manufactures and markets Dreamfields pasta and the unique technology behind it. TechCom's objective is to improve of the quality of the nutrition in food. According to Anfinsen, they "put under the microscope, so to speak, how the body uses food and how to maximize the nutritional benefit the body receives."

    The Story Behind "Digestible Carbs"

    Dreamfields pasta is unique in the low-carb marketplace in that they do not claim "net carbs" on their label, but instead claim "digestible carbs."

    Net carbs, you probably know, is a number that food manufacturers arrive at by taking the total carbohydrate content of a serving of their product, and subtracting the fiber, sugar alcohols, glycerine and other carbohydrate ingredients that have a negligible impact on blood sugar. This number can be questionable, especially with sugar alcohols, as the various sugar alcohols have different effects on blood sugar, and there is some debate over whether sugar alcohols can legitimately be subtracted when calculating net carbs.

    Digestible carbs, by contrast, is the total amount of carbohydrate that is digested in the upper GI tract and enters the bloodstream, as measured in human test subjects. It is worth noting that Dreamfields has a group of 45 test subjects, and that every batch of Dreamfields pasta is tested in vivo as part of their quality control process.

    Anfinsen could not describe in detail the process by which digestible carbs are measured, due to a pending patent. They have submitted a provisional patent application that will be converted into a standard patent application sometime in the next couple of months. Patent applications are published prior to approval, so we should be able to read the patent application by sometime early next year.

    How Dreamfields Lowers Digestible Carbs

    I asked Dr. Anfinsen if he could explain how adding their blend of fibers and proteins to Dreamfields pasta "protects" the carbohydrate from being digested, and whether or not this fiber/protein blend acted as a "built-in carb-blocker." While I have to admit I did not fully understand the answer, he said, "Yes, you could look at it that way." Anfinsen describes the fiber/protein blend as "a matrix that is dispersed throughout the product. This matrix acts as a barrier that inhibits the ability of enzymes to digest the carbohydrate."

    So what is a "matrix?" Anfinsen uses the following analogy: Say you lay a sheet of paper on your desk. Now say you want to move an object from the left side of your desk to the right. The sheet of paper acts as an obstacle. The more sheets of paper you stack up, the harder it is to move things from one side of your desk to the other.

    Similarly, the fiber/protein blend in Dreamfields pasta prevents the enzymes necessary for the digestion of carbohydrates from reaching the carbohydrates in your digestive tract (though in three dimensions, rather than the two in the analogy).

    According to Anfinsen, the more of this blend they add to the food product, the fewer carbohydrates that get digested. They could, for example, manufacture pasta with zero grams of digestible carbs. The 5g per serving number was chosen for marketing reasons. Dreamfields pasta is intended to be a healthful, mainstream replacement for ordinary pasta; not just a niche product aimed at serious low-carb dieters. Because Dreamfields would like to see their products replace traditional pasta in school lunchrooms, for example, they felt it was necessary to have some digestible carbohydrates in the product.

    Low Carbohydrate or Low Glycemic?

    I also asked Dr. Anfinsen how we can know that Dreamfields pasta is truly a low-carbohydrate product, and not just a food with a low-glycemic index. In other words, when they test the blood sugar of the subjects who eat their pasta, what exactly are they measuring?

    The glycemic index is a numerical system of measuring how fast a carbohydrate triggers a rise in circulating blood sugar; the greater the blood sugar response, the higher the number. Glycemic load is a numerical system that takes into account the glycemic index of a food as well as how much available carbohydrate is in a serving of that food.

    You can calculate a food's glycemic load by dividing it's glycemic index by 100 and then multiplying by the number of grams of available carbohydrate (e.g., carbohydrates minus fiber). For example, an medium apple with a glycemic index of 28 and 16g of available carbohydrate would have a glycemic load of 4 ((28/100)*16=4.48, rounded to 4).

    Similarly, you can measure the glycemic index and the glycemic load of a given food and run the calculation in reverse to obtain the amount of available carbohydrate.

    This is essentially what Dreamfields has done. They varied the amount of the fiber/protein blend they added to their pasta until they got the blood sugar response they were looking for. They could have made it with more or less available carbohydrate, but 5g per serving was the target number they were shooting for.

    So Is it Fiber?

    Given that the carbohydrate in Dreamfields pasta is rendered mostly indigestible and passes to through to the lower GI where it is fermented by the bacteria in the colon, you might wonder why they don't call it fiber. After all, that's exactly what soluble fiber does. Insoluble fiber passes through the entire digestive tract undigested, but soluble fiber is partially or completely fermented by the bacteria in the colon, helping to maintain the health of your intestinal flora.

    In other words, Dreamfields technology makes ordinary semolina flour act as if it were fiber. It passes through the upper GI tract and is completely fermented in the colon. So is it fiber?

    The answer, for now, is no. The reason is that, in the United States at least, calling something fiber is subject to various governmental regulations, though even this is subject to change. For example, 10 years ago polydextrose could not be listed on the nutrition label as fiber; today it can. Anfinsen says that there is a movement to allow fiber content to be determined by clinical assays rather than traditional definitions. If this happens, you may see Dreamfields pasta listing 37g of fiber per serving on their label.

    But even if it can't legally be called fiber yet, is Dreamfields pasta going to improve colon health and digestion in the same way that soluble fibers do? "Absolutely," says Anfinsen.

    I also wanted to know if Dreamfields pasta would be a problem for people with intestinal disorders, such as irritable bowel syndrome, Crohn's disease or colitis? According to Anfinsen, "No. Dreamfields pasta ferments completely, but it does not 'flash ferment.'" Fiber-containing products with "loosely bound molecules" ferment more rapidly, and higher in the colon, causing gas and bloating. Because Dreamfields pasta ferments more slowly, and starts fermenting lower in the colon, it does not have this problem. Moreover, because the fiber contained in Dreamfields pasta is entirely soluble, there isn't the intestinal irritation that might be associated with insoluble fibers.

    What's the Real Difference Between "Net Carbs" and "Digestible Carbs"?
    If the additional carbs are not digested, is there really any difference between "net carbs" and "digestible carbs" other than a semantic one? Apparently not. The two are measured in different ways but, excluding the issue of whether or not you can subtract sugar alcohols when calculating net carbs, the end result should be the same.

    What is the Future of this Technology?

    Dreamfields pasta is only the first product to implement this patent pending food technology from TechCom Group. TechCom has licensed, and is in negotiations to license this technology to other large food manufacturers. In addition, they are working with the FDA to help educate regulators and the public about this new way of protecting carbohydrates from digestion and measuring digestible carbohydrates through clinical assays.

    In my previous article, I pointed out that Dreamfields needed to do a better job communicating why their products are low-carb despite the fact that they are not loaded with fiber and other ingredients that reduce the net carbs. Now I know why: Discussions about your colon and your blood just don't make good marketing copy.

    Over the next year, as we begin to see new food products coming to market using the same carbohydrate-lowering and measuring technologies used in Dreamfields pasta, I hope manufacturers will find a way to more adequately communicate the concept of digestible carbs.


    When it comes down to it a Carb is still a Carb and should be counted as so, According to Dreamfields when counting a Carb. It just does'nt spike blood sugar the way regular pasta does.
  • Larode
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    Thats what their box says, however, I track my blood sugar and when I tried it, my glucose went crazy just like real pasta. If you look at the box carefully, it says "other something....can't remember what" but they are not being truthful. Dangerous is someone is diabetic and believes them.
  • beccafertig
    beccafertig Posts: 61 Member
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    @pds06 - kinda getting the vibe you're wanting to argue??? Weird. I was just putting out additional information directly from the folks behind Dreamfields. Bottom line? Net carbs vs digestible carbs, it's a better alternative to traditional pasta.
  • RatherBeInTheShire
    RatherBeInTheShire Posts: 561 Member
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    I still eat it. Instead of eating 2 cups like I use to I just have 1 cup or .5 a cup. What I like about pasta is that it's filling. SO you eat that with protein and you are good for a couple of hours.

    +1
    I still eat pasta. I just measure it out to a serving. One cup does me pretty good!
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
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    @pds06 - kinda getting the vibe you're wanting to argue??? Weird. I was just putting out additional information directly from the folks behind Dreamfields. Bottom line? Net carbs vs digestible carbs, it's a better alternative to traditional pasta.

    I don't want to argue, I'm just trying to find the truth to how may carbs to add to my foods and can't find a straight answer.
    When I went to the Dreamfields website it said a carb is a carb and the box said 41 carbs! Even their recipe section does not count it as 5 carbs. But everyone is adding 5 carbs. They are being deceived. I'm just looking for the truth.

    Do you work for them? You sound very defensive.
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
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    I still eat it. Instead of eating 2 cups like I use to I just have 1 cup or .5 a cup. What I like about pasta is that it's filling. SO you eat that with protein and you are good for a couple of hours.

    +1
    I still eat pasta. I just measure it out to a serving. One cup does me pretty good!
    I agree 100% . It's all in the portion size.
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
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    Thats what their box says, however, I track my blood sugar and when I tried it, my glucose went crazy just like real pasta. If you look at the box carefully, it says "other something....can't remember what" but they are not being truthful. Dangerous is someone is diabetic and believes them.

    Me too! Thats why I'm trying to find out the truth. 5grams of carbs for a serving of pasta is too good to be true.
    and you know what they say about that, " if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is !"
  • dlibonati
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    Have you tried quinoa? Either pasta made with its flour, or straight up?

    Cooked quinoa is a great source of iron, manganese, potassium, riboflavin, copper, phosphorous, tryptophan, B6, niacin and thiamine. One cup of cooked quinoa has only 220 calories. It also has 5 grams of fiber and 8 grams of protein.
  • beccafertig
    beccafertig Posts: 61 Member
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    @pds06 - kinda getting the vibe you're wanting to argue??? Weird. I was just putting out additional information directly from the folks behind Dreamfields. Bottom line? Net carbs vs digestible carbs, it's a better alternative to traditional pasta.

    I don't want to argue, I'm just trying to find the truth to how may carbs to add to my foods and can't find a straight answer.
    When I went to the Dreamfields website it said a carb is a carb and the box said 41 carbs! Even their recipe section does not count it as 5 carbs. But everyone is adding 5 carbs. They are being deceived. I'm just looking for the truth.

    Do you work for them? You sound very defensive.

    Work for them? Nope. I have my hands full as a stay at home mom with three kids. Their box says 5 digestible carbs, which is a big difference from 41.
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
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    @pds06 - kinda getting the vibe you're wanting to argue??? Weird. I was just putting out additional information directly from the folks behind Dreamfields. Bottom line? Net carbs vs digestible carbs, it's a better alternative to traditional pasta.

    I don't want to argue, I'm just trying to find the truth to how may carbs to add to my foods and can't find a straight answer.
    When I went to the Dreamfields website it said a carb is a carb and the box said 41 carbs! Even their recipe section does not count it as 5 carbs. But everyone is adding 5 carbs. They are being deceived. I'm just looking for the truth.

    Do you work for them? You sound very defensive.

    Work for them? Nope. I have my hands full as a stay at home mom with three kids. Their box says 5 digestible carbs, which is a big difference from 41.
    I'm a Mother of 4 with 2 grandbabies.
    But their box say's 41 carbs! I don't care how many are digestible. It's 41, you can kid yourself but that won't help you keep your weight or your blood sugar down. It also contains more added gluten which is also not good for you. If you ask me anything that has been made in the lab is not for me. Thanks for letting me know that. I'll just eat less real pasta. But you feed your family what ever you want. That's why they make vanilla and Chocolate.
  • Roukie
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    Thanks for all the good ideas!!!
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
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    Have you tried quinoa? Either pasta made with its flour, or straight up?

    Cooked quinoa is a great source of iron, manganese, potassium, riboflavin, copper, phosphorous, tryptophan, B6, niacin and thiamine. One cup of cooked quinoa has only 220 calories. It also has 5 grams of fiber and 8 grams of protein.

    I have heard about it but have never seen it in the store. Do you get it in the supermarket or is it something you have to special order.
    Also, is it like barley in it's natural form?
  • lcoulter23
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    I eat the ronzoni smart taste thin spaghetti because it has all the properties of a whole wheat pasta and the same nutrition numbers but it isn't as grainy. I measure it out to however much i want. the sauce and meat are already mixed in and I water the sauce down a little.
  • beccafertig
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    @pds06 - kinda getting the vibe you're wanting to argue??? Weird. I was just putting out additional information directly from the folks behind Dreamfields. Bottom line? Net carbs vs digestible carbs, it's a better alternative to traditional pasta.

    I don't want to argue, I'm just trying to find the truth to how may carbs to add to my foods and can't find a straight answer.
    When I went to the Dreamfields website it said a carb is a carb and the box said 41 carbs! Even their recipe section does not count it as 5 carbs. But everyone is adding 5 carbs. They are being deceived. I'm just looking for the truth.

    Do you work for them? You sound very defensive.

    Work for them? Nope. I have my hands full as a stay at home mom with three kids. Their box says 5 digestible carbs, which is a big difference from 41.
    I'm a Mother of 4 with 2 grandbabies.
    But their box say's 41 carbs! I don't care how many are digestible. It's 41, you can kid yourself but that won't help you keep your weight or your blood sugar down. It also contains more added gluten which is also not good for you. If you ask me anything that has been made in the lab is not for me. Thanks for letting me know that. I'll just eat less real pasta. But you feed your family what ever you want. That's why they make vanilla and Chocolate.

    Yet again, you have this crazy need to argue. How does being a mother of 4 and grandmother to 2 have any relevance to this conversation? I am not interested in being one upped by you, and I don't appreciate your continued attempts to attack my input on this matter. It's also obvious that you need to educate yourself (please don't feel it necessary to follow up with a long list of magical credentials to invalidate my statement). Unless your "real pasta" was made in your own kitchen, it's not as natural or wholesome as you'd like to kid yourself into thinking. It's a simple matter of different strokes for different folks.
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
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    @pds06 - kinda getting the vibe you're wanting to argue??? Weird. I was just putting out additional information directly from the folks behind Dreamfields. Bottom line? Net carbs vs digestible carbs, it's a better alternative to traditional pasta.

    I don't want to argue, I'm just trying to find the truth to how may carbs to add to my foods and can't find a straight answer.
    When I went to the Dreamfields website it said a carb is a carb and the box said 41 carbs! Even their recipe section does not count it as 5 carbs. But everyone is adding 5 carbs. They are being deceived. I'm just looking for the truth.

    Do you work for them? You sound very defensive.

    Work for them? Nope. I have my hands full as a stay at home mom with three kids. Their box says 5 digestible carbs, which is a big difference from 41.
    I'm a Mother of 4 with 2 grandbabies.
    But their box say's 41 carbs! I don't care how many are digestible. It's 41, you can kid yourself but that won't help you keep your weight or your blood sugar down. It also contains more added gluten which is also not good for you. If you ask me anything that has been made in the lab is not for me. Thanks for letting me know that. I'll just eat less real pasta. But you feed your family what ever you want. That's why they make vanilla and Chocolate.

    Yet again, you have this crazy need to argue. How does being a mother of 4 and grandmother to 2 have any relevance to this conversation? I am not interested in being one upped by you, and I don't appreciate your continued attempts to attack my input on this matter. It's also obvious that you need to educate yourself (please don't feel it necessary to follow up with a long list of magical credentials to invalidate my statement). Unless your "real pasta" was made in your own kitchen, it's not as natural or wholesome as you'd like to kid yourself into thinking. It's a simple matter of different strokes for different folks.

    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take a pill girl. If you want to eat your pasta and pretend, go right ahead. End of story.
  • juldga
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    I mix my pasta and my rice. 1/2 spaghetti squash 1/2 pasta or 1/2 cauliflower "rice" and 1/2 rice
  • jojoworks
    jojoworks Posts: 315 Member
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    Have you tried quinoa? Either pasta made with its flour, or straight up?

    Cooked quinoa is a great source of iron, manganese, potassium, riboflavin, copper, phosphorous, tryptophan, B6, niacin and thiamine. One cup of cooked quinoa has only 220 calories. It also has 5 grams of fiber and 8 grams of protein.

    I'm glad someone mentioned the quinoa pasta option. It performs perfectly as pasta in your normal pasta dishes, has great taste and is very good for you!

    Also, I've been using millet instead of rice with great results lately. Delicious too!!

    good luck and happy eating
  • britneybowen
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    Pasta ISN'T bad for you as long as you're not eating A LOT of it. Stick with regular pasta just make yourself a smaller portion of it since it is filling.