This movie will change your life...SERIOUSLY

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  • EricJonrosh
    EricJonrosh Posts: 823 Member
    Why go on a diet? I'm not on a diet. The food I'm eating and losing weight on is the food I will eat for the rest of my life. I'm not going on another diet again.

    The bacon and eggs diet worked for me for about a week, then I started into ketosis and began sweating ammonia. My body broke down, I needed carbs, I needed glucose in my blood for working out. My brain needed glucose because that's the only thing the brain uses (or ketones, but that's a survival mechanism).

    There are no tricks. Calorie counting is the only true way to lose weight. Eat healthy, eat yummy, and exercise.
  • sexygenius
    sexygenius Posts: 1,078 Member
    I watched it, LOVED it! it seemed to make alot more sense than super size me did, super size me seemed soooo played up. I did qiute a bit of research on blood sugar and carbs and insulin and I have sided with his conclusion...

    So, I'm lower my carb intake, but im not doing atkins, Atkins makes some fruits and other foods off limits, if i make anything off limits it all im going to think about lol

    so im keepin my carbs to around 100gs a day (which I have found out is very reasonable) over all calories at around 1500 , eating lots of veggies,meat, eggs,fruit,low glysemic index whole grains,sardines, nuts,dairy and other good for you stuff.. im going to try and cut out margrine,vegetable oil (except olive oil and such) and cut down on the processed carbs..im not going to eliminate anything though... as for artificial sweeteners...im working on it..slowly...
  • lilawolf
    lilawolf Posts: 1,690 Member
    Umm is this called the Atkins Diet?
    Basically eat whatever you want but bread, starch, or sugar carbs higher than 5gms.
    Just be careful
    Make sure you are taking in complex carbs! Your body needs carbs or your nervous system will go crazy and you will be restless.. cranky, brain foggy, panic..
    Whole wheat and fiber rich

    Why do you think that? While some people can have a day or two of carb/sugar withdrawal, they feel great afterwords. I didn't have that at all. I have way more energy than I did on my low calorie diet. I feel more full and less tired. I have cut out my afternoon cup of coffee and feel like being up and going all of the time. Before, I just wanted a nap in the middle of the day, content to sit on the sofa all day and I am not overweight at all.

    I cut to 40-80g of carbs rather than the 263 fitness pal/FDA says I should have. It is not as strict as Atkins at least in the induction stage, but it is working for me with fantastic results.
  • lilawolf
    lilawolf Posts: 1,690 Member
    I watched it, LOVED it! it seemed to make alot more sense than super size me did, super size me seemed soooo played up. I did qiute a bit of research on blood sugar and carbs and insulin and I have sided with his conclusion...

    So, I'm lower my carb intake, but im not doing atkins, Atkins makes some fruits and other foods off limits, if i make anything off limits it all im going to think about lol

    so im keepin my carbs to around 100gs a day (which I have found out is very reasonable) over all calories at around 1500 , eating lots of veggies,meat, eggs,fruit,low glysemic index whole grains,sardines, nuts,dairy and other good for you stuff.. im going to try and cut out margrine,vegetable oil (except olive oil and such) and cut down on the processed carbs..im not going to eliminate anything though... as for artificial sweeteners...im working on it..slowly...

    Sounds good. Do you feel better? Who said anything about eliminating? Veggies and fruit both have carbs, we just need a lower limit than the 300g recommended by the FDA with a 2000 calorie diet.
  • toots99
    toots99 Posts: 3,794 Member
    I couldn't make it past the first 15-20 minutes due to the filmmaker/narrator being such an annoying pompous *kitten*.

    I agree...he's super annoying. I started watching this the other day and will continue watching though.
  • Dom_m
    Dom_m Posts: 336 Member
    I think it is important that there aren't any studies that link saturated fat to heart disease when the FDA and our doctors are telling us to limit them. I think I am only supposed to have 25g and my mother was told to limit hers to 8g. We are told animal fat, bacon, eggs etc are bad for us with no backing reason at all. Why doesn't this bother you?
    Unfortunately, you've fallen perfectly for his trap. He claims "there's never been a single study that proves saturated fat causes heart disease" and you heard "there aren't any studies that link saturated fat to heart disease."
    "Proven causality" and "linked with" are very different. If you want to see a bunch of studies linking saturated fat to heart disease look at this:
    http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=saturated+fat+and+heart+disease&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=ws

    As for the vegan chef it was just a poke at the girlfriend of the guy in Supersize me who says that his sexual performance went down which the Fat Head guy is saying was just a publicity stunt. This has nothing to do with her authority or lack of it.
    I know he's primarily a comedian and he was going for a laugh - throughout the website he ridicules vegetarianism. This is perfectly legitimate and many of my friends consider this their favourite pass-time (I'm vegan, so the jokes never end). The problem isn't the laughter, its the way he uses it to lead the audience to conclude that saturated fat and cholesterol boost sexual performance.

    The phrase "appeal to authority" is the name of a logical fallacy. An example of using an appeal to authority would be, "Jo Smith said this is a dog, and Jo Smith is very famous and popular, so it must be true." 'Fat-Head' uses the opposite, an appeal to prejudice. The example is "Famous vegan chef says saturated fat ruins her boyfriends libido, but I like meat and I hate hollywood-liberals so I really don't want to agree with her."
    Is the move more, eat less mantra working for you? Do you feel full, satisfied, and happy on your low fat diet?
    I know this wasn't directed at me, but it was directed at someone whose comment was that they agree with my earlier statement, so I'll reply to this too.
    Yes, counting my calories in and out and maintaining a relatively constant deficit has worked. When I stopped doing it over summer I put on some weight again (ie: not doing it has the predicted problem). Now that I've been doing it again, it works as predicted again. My diet the last few days is a bit different to normal because I have a 100km race to run tomorrow so I've been carb loading. Carb loading is a bit difficult to do well and its leaving me a bit more hungry than the same amount of calories normally would, but I can get by for 3 days.
    I've never been on a low fat diet. I think low fat is as foolish as low carb and low protein.
  • jade3599
    jade3599 Posts: 22
    I have hypoglycemia so I have to eat no carbs no sugar (or as little as possible) Until I knew what was wrong with me for 26 years. I cudn't think straight. I would go into extreme highs and lows of mental and physical energy. I think everyone shud eat this way if you they want to stay thin and healthy. I have never worried about my fat intake. Just my sugar carbs.
  • taletreader
    taletreader Posts: 377 Member
    Bottom line: Carbs are the evil not fat.

    This type of thinking is probably what the real problem is. Neither carbohydrates nor fats are evil, and both are essential for good health.[...]

    What this poster said.

    Learning more about how we metabolise macronutrients, and playing around with what works for OUR particular body, is perfectly fine. Demonising entire food groups isn't.
  • aeckels616
    aeckels616 Posts: 210 Member
    Then again I see you have 20lbs to lose. Is the move more, eat less mantra working for you? Do you feel full, satisfied, and happy on your low fat diet? If you do, then more power to you. If not, watch the movie and decide for yourself.

    Is this directed at me, or the person I quoted? Regardless, I think you may have missed the point of the quote. I'm not on a low fat diet (I even eat at McDonald's once in a while). I'm paying attention to what KINDS of fats and carbs I'm putting in my body, exercising, and counting calories. And yes, it's working great. Full, satisfied and happy? Absolutely.
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