Diet Pills?

i used to take redline and at one point atrophex. from the studying i've done the only things that will actually induce any type of weight LOSS are thermogenics and ephedrine. ephedrine is banned/regulated to hell, though. and thermogenics always made me feel really funny.

imo, not worth it.

Hey HushHush,

I'm not personally familiar but here's a quick online blurb I found:

"Zantrex 3 is a popular weight loss supplement with numerous, sometimes fatal side effects. It is important to be aware of these side effects before buying the weight loss supplement. These are some of the negative side effects associated with Zantrex 3.

One of the most common side effects of Zantrex 3 is shaking or rapid heart beat, both derived from the use of caffeine. Numerous ingredients in Zantrex 3 contain caffeine, including green tea extract and Yerba mate.

High caffeine also contains other negative side effects, including increased urination. Caffeine works as a mild diuretic. Another negative side effect of its excessive caffeine use is dizziness or fainting. This is extremely common in people with caffeine sensitivity.

Zantrex 3 is extremely addictive, mostly because of the amount of caffeine it has. It alters the brain chemistry to crave more caffeine.

An uncommon but serious side effect of Zantrex 3 is the development of goiters, which is when your thyroid gland has grown to an abnormally large size. Maca Root, which is used in Zantrex 3, contains chemicals which promote goiters in people with iodine deficiency.

Liver failure is a rare but dangerous negative effect of Zantrex 3. This is due to pyrrolizidine alkaloids, which naturally occur in its chemical structure."

And then here's the blurb on Alli.

"Based on information submitted to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in order for Alli to be approved, the following side effects were commonly reported in clinical studies:

* Abdominal pain (stomach pain) -- in up to 20.1 percent of people
* Fecal urgency (an urgent but controlled need to have a bowel movement) -- up to 18.8 percent
* Gas -- up to 18.6 percent
* Oily spotting (uncontrolled anal oil seepage) -- up to 17.7 percent
* Gas with a small amount of oil or stool -- up to 17.2 percent
* Fatty or oily stool -- up to 17.2 percent
* Diarrhea -- up to 11.9 percent
* Oily evacuation (bowel movements of just oil, without stool) -- up to 11.6 percent
* Sinus infection -- up to 10.6 percent
* Soft stool -- up to 10.1 percent.

Other common side effects of Alli (occurring in 3 to 10 percent of people) included:

* Increased frequency of bowel movements
* Uncontrolled, spontaneous bowel movements (known as fecal incontinence)
* Back pain.

Many of these problems that affect the digestive tract can be avoided or reduced by decreasing the amount of fat in your diet. Because Alli decreases the absorption of fat, more fat stays in the digestive tract, causing many of the bothersome (and sometimes embarrassing) side effects. You are more likely to experience these side effects if you eat too much fat. As you continue to take the medication, you will learn how different foods and different amounts of fat will affect you. If you have consumed a meal that is high in fat and have taken Alli, you may want to prepare for possible negative effects."

I'm not in to the whole zantrex or any energy pills, but I did lose 15 lbs with alli. Yes, it has a terrible side effect, but it helped me to eat a diet with very low fat.

I would really check with your physician...anything chemical has side effects that you may not note at present, but may bite you in the *kitten* in the future...I'm not trying to be too harsh...it's just that healthy eating should be a lifesyle...something you do for the rest of your life...you're not going to do diet pills for the rest of you life...right! I wish you the best!!! Just try to keep it as clean as you can!!!

I used to love anything with real ephedra in it (back when it was still sold) and I was never addicted to the stuff. I've tried various other thermogenics after ephedra was taken off the market and none are the same. the stuff they make now usually will make me feel wired & a bit jittery, then after 3hrs or so, I feel the crash & burn. So, I don't use them anymore. The crash is not worth it.

Of course, you already know, it's best to lose weight clean without chemical/pharmaceutical assistance, BUT my 2 cents on all the dangers associated with these drugs is: if you use in moderation, you know you don't have heart issues or a family history of heart problems, you don't do extreme things like run miles in a plastic suit without drinking water while using thermogenics (some athlete died like that years ago), then I'm sure you're okay.

There is also Phentermine, but it is prescription only, unless you order it online. I've known a few people on it that have had great results, but they stuck with their lifestyle change and ate healthy and exercised, even after stopping the pill.

If these pills REALLY worked, do you REALLY think they would be cheap enough for the general public to buy???? If they worked they would be so expensive that only the super rich could afford them!

Don't waste your money and spend it on healthy food instead. Or put it towards a new outfit for when you've lost the weight permanently!

b x

the only one i experienced is the yukky oily stuff that comes out when you go to the bathroom. i found it to be bad only when i ate very fatty foods. i mean when you could actually see the greasiness in your food. yes, it is a really gross side effect and you have to be prepared for it, but i took it a couple of years ago and i lost 15 lbs and it stayed off. it was worth it to me. like i said you just really have to watch your diet.

And then here's the blurb on Alli.

"Based on information submitted to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in order for Alli to be approved, the following side effects were commonly reported in clinical studies:

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* Oily spotting (uncontrolled anal oil seepage) -- up to 17.7 percent
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Because uncontrolled anal oil seepage is what I want from a diet pill to assist me with my weight loss. :embarassed: Think that I will stick with MFP and the wonderful support and tools that I have available here. I have been able to lose for the first time, no pills, no hard work, lots of great people and support. MFP has been my magic pill.

**ME TOO!!!*** That's just disgusting!

I used Duromine (Phentermine) for 2 months with incredible results. I lost 15kg but after the two months, my body became tolerant and it stopped working. I decided to try it a month later with good results again but ended up in hospital on antibiotics and fluids because it gave me hepatitis and for that reason only, I would not recommend it. Although everyone's body will react different.

In the short term I believe that they can be beneficial because they give you that motivation and push to keep you going, but it's not the easy way out so you still have to work for it by eating healthily and exercising.