question on lifting weights

running_mom
running_mom Posts: 204 Member
edited September 25 in Fitness and Exercise
So after a year of me begging my husband to come to the gym with me he finally did it! He showed me how to lift free weights (I've only done the machines). They are a lot harder!! So after he showed me everything I stayed andran on the treadmill. I'm glad I did the weights first because I don't think I could have done it after running.

But, my question is am I really burning any calories by doing weights? As many as running for an hour like a usually do. And how would I log it?
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  • I don't know how you log the calories, but one thing that is nice about lifting weights is that as you increase muscle mass, you burn more calories, even when resting. So even if the actual process of lifting weights doesn't seem to burn many calories, the overall effect really does help you lose weight and keep it off.
  • gameovergt
    gameovergt Posts: 502
    you will tone up with weights
  • Pandorian
    Pandorian Posts: 2,055 Member
    Every time you move you're moving you are burning calories (extras that is) as your body burns calories just sitting around, that's why we want more muscle as it burns MORE calories over time per pound than fat does.

    I don't think the burn will be anything like an hour of cardio, but the only way to know for sure is to have a body tracking device...
    I'd just note the strenght-training and time doing it so you can look back and see when you did what exercises!
  • DeBlue
    DeBlue Posts: 254 Member
    My opinion you need both. Cardio like running is a fast calorie burn and great for conditioning your body. Strength training will tone and add to your muscle mass. It may not happen dramatically, but each pound of muscle is tighter thus looks better, and burns more calories all day long than just body fat will do. Both get your heart rate up, its just different. And different helps you to avoid plateauing. Double win. Kudo's to your husband for being such a good trainer!
  • darrenham
    darrenham Posts: 110 Member
    Strength training does not "tone", losing fat "tones". Which is done by burning calories, so yeah my first sentence might be slightly wrong.

    Strength training builds strength by building muscle (providing you are lifting heavy, and keep going until you can't lift any more).

    Not only does actually lifting the weight burn calories, but the process of building muscle does, and once you've got your increased muscle mass, your basal metabolic rate increases too.

    So yes, lifting weights burns calories. Lots of em.
  • AdamATGATT
    AdamATGATT Posts: 573 Member
    Every time you move you're moving you are burning calories (extras that is) as your body burns calories just sitting around, that's why we want more muscle as it burns MORE calories over time per pound than fat does.

    I don't think the burn will be anything like an hour of cardio, but the only way to know for sure is to have a body tracking device...
    I'd just note the strenght-training and time doing it so you can look back and see when you did what exercises!

    This. I wear my HRM during my lifting sets, and calculate the burn the same way. Burned 787 calories last night doing P90X Chest and Back, which is about 75 minutes (with Ab Ripper X). I usually burn between 600 - 800 calories just my lifting sets, but I have gone as high as 900+. It all depends on how hard you're working.
  • Mayor_West
    Mayor_West Posts: 246 Member
    You actually burn more calories after you finish weight training. This helps keep your metabolism raised longer, so you actually burn more total calories than standard cardio. Conversely, with standard cardio, once your heart rate returns to normal, the calorie burn ends.

    Strength training is much more effective at burning fat because of not only the aforementioned post-workout calorie burn, but also it will add lean muscle mass, which will also raise your metabolism as well.
  • hroush
    hroush Posts: 2,073 Member
    When I first started losing weight, I lost 2 lbs a week by running a mile in about 7 minutes and then strength training for an hour 4 days a week.
  • iamthepreston
    iamthepreston Posts: 195 Member
    You are getting some bad answers. Strength training for an hour doesn't burn as many calories as running for an hour unless you are circuit training with no rest between sets and exercises. If you do strength train in circuit style you really need no cardio.

    Strength training does change your physique and will cause you to burn more calories over the day while at rest.

    Here is a good example. You remember when you were 23 years old and weighed 135 pounds, so your goal is to get back to 135. When you reac yourh goal of 135 you realize that you still don't look how you wanted to. This is because as you age you lose musle mass, and add bodyfat. While your weight is the same you are carrying less muscle and more fat, thus the difference in appearance.

    Most people at the gym have the same goal to be lean and well defined, yet you see the guys lifting weights and the women on the treadmills. So men and women have the same goals yet they are training very differently. Then the woman complain that men can reach their goals faster. Something to think about.

    A good combination of cardio and strength training is the answer.
  • darrenham
    darrenham Posts: 110 Member
    You are getting some bad answers. Strength training for an hour doesn't burn as many calories as lifting for an hour unless you are circuit training with no rest between sets and exercises.

    Why are you talking about lifting and strength training as two different things?

    I agree it's good to do a bit of cardio too, but for cardiovascular fitness, not purely for calorie-burning purposes.
  • iamthepreston
    iamthepreston Posts: 195 Member
    I meant to type running where I said lifting.
  • ItsCasey
    ItsCasey Posts: 4,021 Member
    If you are doing "explosive" lifts with heavy weights (i.e. deadlifts, squats, weighted lunges, etc.), you are getting a good cardio workout. You will be sweating, and your heart will be pounding. Plus, you are adding muscle, which burns even more calories even when you are resting.

    If you're doing isolation lifts like biceps curls with 5 lb. dumbbells, then yes, you are better off getting on the treadmill for an hour, in terms of calorie burn.

    I don't understand why women are so afraid of lifting heavy weights. Unless you are taking steroids or eating thousands of calories a day, you are not going to look like a bodybuilder. You're just going to get really strong and really lean.
  • iamthepreston
    iamthepreston Posts: 195 Member
    If you are doing "explosive" lifts with heavy weights (i.e. deadlifts, squats, weighted lunges, etc.), you are getting a good cardio workout. You will be sweating, and your heart will be pounding. Plus, you are adding muscle, which burns even more calories even when you are resting.

    If you're doing isolation lifts like biceps curls with 5 lb. dumbbells, then yes, you are better off getting on the treadmill for an hour, in terms of calorie burn.

    I don't understand why women are so afraid of lifting heavy weights. Unless you are taking steroids or eating thousands of calories a day, you are not going to look like a bodybuilder. You're just going to get really strong and really lean.

    This is a good post. If you are lifting light weights for 20 reps you are wasting your time. Lift as heavy as you can for 2 months and come back and tell us how your body has changed.
  • running_mom
    running_mom Posts: 204 Member
    I love running. I finally found something I can really get into. I have done half marathons and 5k's. But, I havent lost weight in a year! Plus I need to tone up. Thats why I am trying to do the weights. So is it better to do heavier weights or more reps? or do I need to work on achieving both?

    And as a side note... I'm a person who wants immediate gradification. Horrible I know when I'm trying to stay healthy. But how long until I see some sort of results? We are going to do the weights 3 times a week and I still plan on running at least 5-6 times a week.

    And thanks for all the input- I appreciate it : )
  • NikkiDerrig386
    NikkiDerrig386 Posts: 1,096 Member
    You are getting some bad answers. Strength training for an hour doesn't burn as many calories as lifting for an hour unless you are circuit training with no rest between sets and exercises. If you do strength train in circuit style you really need no cardio.

    Strength training does change your physique and will cause you to burn more calories over the day while at rest.

    Here is a good example. You remember when you were 23 years old and weighed 135 pounds, so your goal is to get back to 135. When you reac yourh goal of 135 you realize that you still don't look how you wanted to. This is because as you age you lose musle mass, and add bodyfat. While your weight is the same you are carrying less muscle and more fat, thus the difference in appearance.

    Most people at the gym have the same goal to be lean and well defined, yet you see the guys lifting weights and the women on the treadmills. So men and women have the same goals yet they are training very differently. Then the woman complain that men can reach their goals faster. Something to think about.

    A good combination of cardio and strength training is the answer.

    This is 100% the right answer. In order to burn the same or more calories as running you have to circuit train. Which is more effective than running for an hour. For example; I burn a little over 200 calories in 30 mins of running but 30 mins of circuit traning I burn over 300 and I continue to burn through out the day due to muscle building.

    Also iamthepreston said "Then the woman complain that men can reach their goals faster. Something to think about."
    Take a look at the trainers around the gym: Do you see them stick a client on the tredmill? If so it is no more than 5 mins bc they are using that as a warm up. Other than 5 mins NOOOOOO they do not. They circuit train bc you have to "SHOCK" the muscles to get results (which is that you are paying for).....
  • thkelly
    thkelly Posts: 466 Member
    You actually burn more calories after you finish weight training. This helps keep your metabolism raised longer, so you actually burn more total calories than standard cardio. Conversely, with standard cardio, once your heart rate returns to normal, the calorie burn ends.

    Strength training is much more effective at burning fat because of not only the aforementioned post-workout calorie burn, but also it will add lean muscle mass, which will also raise your metabolism as well.

    wow this is about the only good answer on the thread. lots of other misinformation or guessing by some posters
  • thkelly
    thkelly Posts: 466 Member
    Every time you move you're moving you are burning calories (extras that is) as your body burns calories just sitting around, that's why we want more muscle as it burns MORE calories over time per pound than fat does.

    I don't think the burn will be anything like an hour of cardio, but the only way to know for sure is to have a body tracking device...
    I'd just note the strenght-training and time doing it so you can look back and see when you did what exercises!

    This. I wear my HRM during my lifting sets, and calculate the burn the same way. Burned 787 calories last night doing P90X Chest and Back, which is about 75 minutes (with Ab Ripper X). I usually burn between 600 - 800 calories just my lifting sets, but I have gone as high as 900+. It all depends on how hard you're working.

    there's an article somewhere on this site that explains the flaws in using your HRM monitor while lifting. it's not as accurate as when you're doing cardio. i still count mine as well this way because i have no idea how else to estimate my calorie burn without some fancy machines. if your HRM says you burned 1000 calories lifting weights i wouldn't be eating back all those calories because i believe the number is inflated.
  • corpus_validum
    corpus_validum Posts: 292 Member
    So is it better to do heavier weights or more reps? or do I need to work on achieving both?

    So many different opinions on that, but if you want to grow muscles the fastest (you mentioned instant gratification), then it's heavier weights. Progressive overload. Your body grows muscles in anticipation of the stress it undergoes. Unless you increase resistance, your body will not feel the need to increase muscle mass.

    Since you already seem fit cardio-wise, a good starting point may be doing 3 sets of 10 reps using weights where the last few reps in the 3rd set seem REALLY hard or where technique breaks down. You shouldn't reach for heavier weights until you've gone 3-4 sessions where the third set is completed with little struggle. Also try to get in a good amount of resistance training for the leg muscles; they're the largest and will help burn fat faster.
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    Strength training does not "tone", losing fat "tones". Which is done by burning calories, so yeah my first sentence might be slightly wrong.

    Strength training builds strength by building muscle (providing you are lifting heavy, and keep going until you can't lift any more).

    Not only does actually lifting the weight burn calories, but the process of building muscle does, and once you've got your increased muscle mass, your basal metabolic rate increases too.

    So yes, lifting weights burns calories. Lots of em.

    ^^^^^^THIS

    Lifting weights is THE WAY TO GO.

    My body looks a heck of a lot better now at 110 pounds than it did at 105 pounds...skinny fat is not attractive.
  • bmontgomery87
    bmontgomery87 Posts: 1,260 Member
    ^^What they said.

    Lifting is gonna burn a lot of calories if you're lifting heavy or doing a lot of reps.
  • mae3785
    mae3785 Posts: 40 Member
    If you are doing "explosive" lifts with heavy weights (i.e. deadlifts, squats, weighted lunges, etc.), you are getting a good cardio workout. You will be sweating, and your heart will be pounding. Plus, you are adding muscle, which burns even more calories even when you are resting.

    If you're doing isolation lifts like biceps curls with 5 lb. dumbbells, then yes, you are better off getting on the treadmill for an hour, in terms of calorie burn.

    I don't understand why women are so afraid of lifting heavy weights. Unless you are taking steroids or eating thousands of calories a day, you are not going to look like a bodybuilder. You're just going to get really strong and really lean.

    This is a good post. If you are lifting light weights for 20 reps you are wasting your time. Lift as heavy as you can for 2 months and come back and tell us how your body has changed.

    THIS. I started lifting about 2 months ago and the heavier I lift the more it feels like I'm doing cardio...and sweating like I'm doing cardio.
  • bmontgomery87
    bmontgomery87 Posts: 1,260 Member


    THIS. I started lifting about 2 months ago and the heavier I lift the more it feels like I'm doing cardio...and sweating like I'm doing cardio.

    Definately. My leg days are very close to cardio and my heart rate stays up and I'm pouring sweat.

    I still do 2-3 cardio sessions per week, because it's not a substitute. But that being said, cardio also isn't a replacement for a good weight training routine. You need to lift to get a great body.
  • Lanfear
    Lanfear Posts: 524
    Would working with resistance bands be classed as "strength training" - I don't have weights and can't afford to shell out on huge amounts of things, but I have just purchased a set of resistance bands at different weights:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Resistance-Exercise-Fitness-Equipment-Training/dp/B004P9X0RC/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1302107547&sr=1-1

    ?
  • NikkiDerrig386
    NikkiDerrig386 Posts: 1,096 Member
    Would working with resistance bands be classed as "strength training" - I don't have weights and can't afford to shell out on huge amounts of things, but I have just purchased a set of resistance bands at different weights:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Resistance-Exercise-Fitness-Equipment-Training/dp/B004P9X0RC/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1302107547&sr=1-1

    ?

    Yes it counts. PS weights are not pricey unless you need heavy ones. For example, for a set of 5lbs is about 5 bucks. Which is cheaper than eating out.

    http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_080V088875211000P?vName=Fitness & Sports&cName=Strength&WeightTraining&sName=Dumbbells&sid=KDx20070926x00003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=080V088875211000P
  • NikkiDerrig386
    NikkiDerrig386 Posts: 1,096 Member


    THIS. I started lifting about 2 months ago and the heavier I lift the more it feels like I'm doing cardio...and sweating like I'm doing cardio.

    Definately. My leg days are very close to cardio and my heart rate stays up and I'm pouring sweat.

    I still do 2-3 cardio sessions per week, because it's not a substitute. But that being said, cardio also isn't a replacement for a good weight training routine. You need to lift to get a great body.

    If your heart rate is acclerated you are doing cardio at the same time. Killing 2 birds with 1 stone :drinker:
  • bmontgomery87
    bmontgomery87 Posts: 1,260 Member
    Weights can be picked up at pretty cheap prices. I got a dumbbell set at walmart that had the 2 bars and then weights so you could add more if needed. I think I paid 20 bucks for them.

    Also buying a kettle bell or two would be an inexpensive option and there are some great and intense workout programs designed for using kettle bells.
  • abyssfully
    abyssfully Posts: 410 Member
    Just going to add something: ladies should NOT be afraid of heavy resistance training. Pre-baby and pre-marriage I was 128 - 132 lbs and 5'8" --- so very lean --- but strong as he!! because I weight trained to exhaustion with heavy weights. Best shape of my life... and I obviously didn't look like the incredible hulk! lol.
  • ItsCasey
    ItsCasey Posts: 4,021 Member
    Resistance bands are fine for certain exercises, but ultimately, nothing beats lifting something really heavy if you're trying to add muscle. If you're not ready to make an investment in weights (and they're not as expensive as you may think), then go with the bands for now and think about the weights some more.

    I do suggest that when/if you decide to make the jump to weights, do NOT get fixed weight dumbbells unless they are really heavy ones that you'll be able to use for a while. Nobody is going to add muscle or get lean by lifting 5 or 10 lbs. You may want to start with a low weight like that just to learn proper form (form is of the utmost importance in weight lifting), but you should advance beyond that very quickly. So I reccomend getting yourself some adjustable dumbbells and a barbell that you can add plates to as your strength improves.
  • Pandorian
    Pandorian Posts: 2,055 Member
    IF you're wanting weights it's coming up on yard-sale season you can sometimes pick up a couple hundred pounds worth of weights for under $50 as the shine is off the new years resolutions ;)
  • NikkiDerrig386
    NikkiDerrig386 Posts: 1,096 Member
    Resistance bands are fine for certain exercises, but ultimately, nothing beats lifting something really heavy if you're trying to add muscle. If you're not ready to make an investment in weights (and they're not as expensive as you may think), then go with the bands for now and think about the weights some more.

    I do suggest that when/if you decide to make the jump to weights, do NOT get fixed weight dumbbells unless they are really heavy ones that you'll be able to use for a while. Nobody is going to add muscle or get lean by lifting 5 or 10 lbs. You may want to start with a low weight like that just to learn proper form (form is of the utmost importance in weight lifting), but you should advance beyond that very quickly. So I reccomend getting yourself some adjustable dumbbells and a barbell that you can add plates to as your strength improves.

    If your a woman 5 - 10 lbs is all you need plus your body weight
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