Do I really need to eat my exercise calories?
wonnder1
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Really?
I eat my 1200/day. I go to the gym 4X/wk. According to my HRM it adds sometimes up to 700 calories to my day. I'm losing pretty steady at 2 pounds per week.
What is the actual science behind it? 700 calories is a BigMac (roughly). So according to that theory I could eat 4 BigMac's per week and still lose 2 pounds.
I don't get it.
I eat my 1200/day. I go to the gym 4X/wk. According to my HRM it adds sometimes up to 700 calories to my day. I'm losing pretty steady at 2 pounds per week.
What is the actual science behind it? 700 calories is a BigMac (roughly). So according to that theory I could eat 4 BigMac's per week and still lose 2 pounds.
I don't get it.
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Here is a great link: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/6556-the-answers-to-the-questions
You never want to go below 1200 NET. Your body needs fuel to function and if you eat 1200 and exercise 700 away you are only taking in 500 calories and that is NOT enough to functionon for very long. MFP adds a deficit in so if you only ate 1200 cals a day and never exercised you would still lose weight.0 -
I don't get it either and I really hope someone can explain!!0
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please read through "Links in MFP You Want to Read Again And Again." in my signature.0
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I don't get it either and I really hope someone can explain!!
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Even if you decide to eat back your calories it doesn't mean eat whatever you want. It means eat healthy things to eat back your calories (i.e. almonds and a banana)0
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the 700 calories from the gym is calories you are burning off(losing). the 1200 per day is calories you are consuming(adding). You need to burn roughly 3500 calories a week to lose 1 lb. So, after you consume your 1200 calories for the day, anything that you burn off is going towards your weight lose.0
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Even if you decide to eat back your calories it doesn't mean eat whatever you want. It means eat healthy things to eat back your calories (i.e. almonds and a banana)
Totally second that. And yes, eat as much of your exercise calories back as you can.0 -
i think a lot of it depends on weight already, if you are near to your goal weight then your body will go into starvation mode if you net below 1200 because it struggles to find the fat to use, if you weigh alot more like me then your body doesn't struggle to find the fat to use instead, if your worried, check with your doctor, but i often net less than 500, have had it medically checked, and its not a problem.
As you near your goal weight however, you will need to start eating them back0 -
So if you eat under 1200 (this is a general number) and you do lots of exercise you are setting your body up for health issues.
Sure you will lose weight but you will lose mostly muscle mass. This doesn't apply as much when you have more weight to lose (plenty of fat reserves to dig into). But as you get closer to healthy weights it will become very, very important to eat your exercise calories (lower fat reserves).
Keep your NET calories above 1200 though. This number is on you Home Page.0 -
I can tell you what worked for me. When I had 50 lbs to lose I ate 1200 calories a day, exercised 3 days a week. I did not eat back my calories from working out. Once I lost about 45lbs my body stopped losing weight (I was then within 15lbs of my goal weight or so) I increased my calories to 1700 and increased my exercising and have since lost 4lbs.0
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Read this...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo
In a nutshell, yes you should eat all your exercise calories.0 -
This is a pretty good explanation.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo
But, if I was losing a steady 2 lbs/week, I would not change a thing. As you get closer to your goal, things will change, though, and it will be harder to keep that up without watching the exercise calories.0 -
Really?
I eat my 1200/day. I go to the gym 4X/wk. According to my HRM it adds sometimes up to 700 calories to my day. I'm losing pretty steady at 2 pounds per week.
What is the actual science behind it? 700 calories is a BigMac (roughly). So according to that theory I could eat 4 BigMac's per week and still lose 2 pounds.
I don't get it.
Sure you could but at the expense of your health. What's the point of losing weight if it doesn't make you healthier?0 -
OK here's the deal:
Much as we would like it to be, the weight we lose isn't only fat, it's also muscle. So we need to exercise to build back the muscle we have lost and hopefully build a bit more than we had to keep our bones strong and to boost our metabolism.
Now this involves extra calories for two reasons. Reason one is that protein helps with muscle gain - that's why those weight lifters are always drinking protein powders and protein bars. So if you're low on protein, you're going to have a harder time making back the muscles you need.
Reason number two is that the faster your metabolism gets, the more you need to eat because the more your body is burning. If you want to keep it burning hot, you need to make sure it has a constant supply of fuel.
This doesn't mean you should go and eat a Big Mac -- this is full of sodium, low in protein, high in refined sugars and high in saturated fats. It's BAD fuel. You should however be eating more clean proteins such as hard boiled eggs, unsalted seeds, unsalted nuts, and Greek Yogurt. Don't worry about feeling full, these foods pack a punch and you only need a handful to give you both the protein and the calories your body needs.
Hope this helps.0 -
Anybody know where the magic number of 1200 calories comes from? I have a difficult time believing that a woman who's 5'6" tall and a 6'3" man both have the same base number of caloric requirements before they start burning muscle.0
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Thanks all. That actually makes (a little) more sense now.
(And no, I'm not actually eating BigMacs! 1. They're disgusting. 2. What would be the point of all the work. 3. They're disgusting.)
Which is funny, cause a month ago I would have said that I loved them. I had a Happy Meal a couple days ago with the kids and it was "eject all systems."0 -
The 1200 is an average of the minimum number of calories your body needs just to maintain and run itself during the day. It doesn't take into account your daily activity, nor how much you exercise.
Consuming less than this isn't an issue on a one-off occasion but if you do this everyday then you are potentially storing up issues for the future as your body won't have the energy and supplies it needs to repair itself. Instead it will begin to use your muscles to get the energy from - remember your heart is made of muscle too!0 -
Anybody know where the magic number of 1200 calories comes from? I have a difficult time believing that a woman who's 5'6" tall and a 6'3" man both have the same base number of caloric requirements before they start burning muscle.
I believe it is different for men then it is for women. Since I am not male I don't know much about their minimum requirements though.0
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