HELP! visalus sciences vi-shape
WarmDontBurn
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My SIL just sent me a link to this http://www.visalus.com/
Says it is $99.00 a month weight loss and I am thinking SCAM!
Anyone know about this or a site that has real info about it? I don't want her to waste her money and get scammed if my gut is right!
Says it is $99.00 a month weight loss and I am thinking SCAM!
Anyone know about this or a site that has real info about it? I don't want her to waste her money and get scammed if my gut is right!
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Scam.
They claim that "ViSalus™ is dedicated to bringing the best minds together with the best science to deliver cutting edge nutraceuticals. We take pride in ensuring that everything we do is based on solid scientific research and in having gathered an excellent scientific team headed by our world-class Science Advisory Board members."
Unfortunately they don't cite ANY studies on Visalus itself. Plus also: NUTRACEUTICALS? What is that supposed to even MEAN.
40$ for a box of cookies is what.
claims include:
"Promotes skin structure and health with grape seed and pine bark extract, glucosamine sulfate, collagen and biotin."
"Orange “Everyday Defense” has a bright citrus orange flavor and contains powerful antioxidants like turkey tail mushroom extract to strengthen immunity, vitality and stimulate natural cellular defense."
Sounds like expensive pee to me.0 -
And of all the papers they link to on their website that they claim support the supplement's effectiveness, only two of the eleven were not actually written by the man who they claim to be their chief scientific advisor.
AND all of the scientific papers except for 1 (supposed to be supporting their drug for all the claims they've made, including better skin, weight loss, anti-aging) are actually about the effects of dietary supplements on HEARING PROBLEMS, that's it. No claims are substantiated.0 -
I just dont get it really. Is it all just meal replacement shakes? They keep talking about winning a BMW and earning things. What does one have to do with the other.0
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Ok I just checked out her package that she chose and it says that she will use some shake to replace 2 meals. That got me thinking. If you are only drinking 2 shakes a day and eating 1 meal then you have no choice but to lose weight. I looked further and found that there is only 90 calories in the shakes. 180 calories and then 1 meal....does that not sound aweful?
I don't want to pee on her party but want to present her with facts.0 -
That seems like she's going to be eating very little overall. Even if you get a good 600 cal meal for dinner, you're still only eating 780 calories, so it sounds dangerous.
Also she's got to consider what dieting is going to do for her lifestyle. What's she going to do after she runs out of milkshakes?
Probably costs and arm and a leg.0 -
Go ahead-pee on her party.
Is she planning on staying on that stuff for life? How will she learn to eat right and exercise if she ever goes off it? Such an ultra-low calorie regimen will likely throw her body into starvation mode and that means she'll lose muscle mass rather than fat. That's probably not her goal.
Plus the whole thing looks very much like a MLM scam. Yeah, you can buy the product but if you JOIN and Sell, you'll save so much!
Caveat emptor.
Kat0 -
Looks like an MLM (multi-level marketing) to me. The problem with those, no matter how good the product is, it always takes a backseat to recruitment of more people to sell it. And if everyone sells it, then everyone already has it, and there's no one left to sell to, the market is saturated, and you're stuck with product you can't sell. Its a waste of money. Also, be wary of anything that doesn't have nutrition facts listed. I couldn't find anything.
If you want to spend $100 a month on an MLM, go with something that's upfront about what's in it. I hate to go there, but Shakeology is a good example, I've checked their website, and you can at least read their ingredient list and nutrition info right there. And if it doesn't fit into your dietary needs, you can avoid making that mistake right then. This visalus stuff, well, complete unknown there, so.....
Oh! And after googling "visalus" I came up with 5 pages of search results, maybe 5 of the listings weren't created by the company. That means that they are creating their own buzz and web presence, no one is really saying anything about them, except themselves.0 -
Well I tried. Since I don't really "chat" with my sister in law I talked to my mother in law. I told her that from what I read she is suppose to replace 2 meals with a shake however the shakes themselves are only 90 calories. So 2 of those is 180 calories. That is not enough for anyone's body to survive on at all. She will lose weight because her body will go into starvation mode. Also if she plans to do this long term then it will get costly both price wise and health wise. There is no easy fix or special shake just diet and exercise Figure I have lost 30lbs but just watching what I eat and adding minimal exercise.
Then there is the whole other aspect of referring people to join for "benefits" to me that screams pyramid scheme. I don't want to pee on her parade but I don't want her to be unhealthy either
Her reply was " yes you are very lucky. I agree. She told me her friend at work is taking the shakes. Up to her. Hope it works for her."
Really? Lucky? Why because I have the tools and the drive to work for what I want?
So I said that I hope it works too but it is a very unhealthy approach and I think will do more harm then good.
She says "I know. Just wish her luck"
I tried. I guess she will have to figure it out the hard way.
Thanks for the help!0 -
Hi,
You should get more inform about this. What they said is that you replace 2 meals with the shake made with milk so add the milk calorie as well and have healthy snacks in between, the idea is to never go on starvation.
Anyway. I'm starting taking it as well and in 3 days I lost 3 lbs. My snacks are fruits and Yogurt or almonds or hard boiled eggs and I have a normal dinner. My caloric intake is about 1200-1350 cals.
Give it a chance it is not unhealthy and I have seen results from it. That's why I join.
My 2 cents.
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Visalus IS A GREAT product~ MUCH better then the leading SHAKEOLOGY! ..I KNOW LOADS OF PPL THAT HAVE LOST A LOT AND KEPT IT OFF! I JUST GOT IT MYSELF. yes the shake is 90 cal BUT its full of everything u need so NO your BODY is not STARVING...plus u ca add fruits and such to it! ITS A VERY GOOD product and wise choice for those who need a boost!0
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i just can't imagine paying to drink shakes. I mean if you are comsuming 1200-1350 calories and exercising then you are basically doing what we all do here for FREE.0
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I totally believe that Visalus has given me my life back. I changed my life and ways in August of 2009 after peaking at 408lbs. I was able to lose a total of 60 lbs on my own before I ran into that "WALL" I didnt know where to go. In September of 2010, after going nowhere for three months I found Visalus. I joined the program and now promise everyone reading this I will "NEVER" stop drinking the shakes. The amount of nutrients and vitamins I am getting and the way it makes me feel is amazing. I am proud to say I am now down another 69lbs and a total of 49 inches off my body. The best part is I also "Eat For Free" because of Visalus.
Love It,
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MFP set a target 1,200 calories a day for me; each of my Visalus shakes has ended up being between 180 and 240 calories. I use a combination of Simply Smart 1% milk and water (currently 2oz milk with 6oz water) plus fruit. Then I have about 400-600 meal and one-two 100-ish calorie snacks.
I prefer the ViShape over Shakeology for the following reasons:
1. Taste (ViShape's flavor is far and away more palatable and has a smoother texture than Shakeology.)
2. Cost ($50 retail per bag versus $120 retail for Shakeology or the $90 discounted price for coaches plus $15/mth coach fee I was paying)
3. Regularity (I've always been regular; Shakeology shut that down; ViShape doesn't)
I was able to easily find the ingredient listing for ViShape with a google search. I did find it frustrating that unlike BB, I couldn't just order from the main visalus site and had to find a consultant or customer first. They should consider BB's model where you can order from their main site if you choose to.0 -
ViSalus has helped many people lose weight and it DOES work. Don't put something down that you haven't even tried - it's so different from everything else out there!0
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For those looking for ingredient list, etc - here's a place where you can find it: http://kgranter.myvi.net/Resource/DbFile/?f=Vi-Shape_Ingredients.pdf0
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Visalus is an amazing product. Yes, MLM is involved but nothing about it is a scam! I have been on it for a week and have lost 5 pounds! I take in about 1250 calories a day and I take 2 shakes. I get more nutrients in those two shakes than I was typically getting in one week of food. It is not "expensive pee," its a healthy alternative to the junk we usually put in our bodies.0
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I personally know 4 people on this challenge and all are doing very well after 30 days. I think it would be a hard transition back to real food when you are unable to make yourself a shake. personally i like to chew my food, but thought I would try it once a day when I have sweet cravings. Works so far. down 3.2 lbs in 3 days.
it's not MLM. $49 gets you a bag of shake mix for 30 days if you have 2 shakes a day and my bag will last 60 days. Cheaper and healthier than ice cream or cake!0 -
I have been working out for 41 days now and have been reading into a lot of information.
My 3 main information places all say the same thing shakes are always second rated to ''whole foods'' why because its a meal replacement not a actual meal and you should only take a shake if you are rly short on time etc and its time for you to eat again witch should be every 3 hours orso to max out your metabolism.
I have also heard from some people that after they switch back to normal food they gain some weight again fast.
Losing 3-5 pounds in a week is great dont get me wrong but with normal food, rest and some cardio/fitness you get the same results and it will save you some cash I think paying $50 or more for some shakes is just a money waste tbh.
I have been losing an avg. 0,65 lbs per day and I dont use anny shakes or protein bars or annything like that just 1 vitamin pill for my A,B,C etc because I dont eat that much vegi's and they cost 5 bucks for 120 pills so thats about 15 dollars per year :P
Annyway thats just my 2 cents
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I have been working out for 41 days now and have been reading into a lot of information.
My 3 main information places all say the same thing shakes are always second rated to ''whole foods'' why because its a meal replacement not a actual meal and you should only take a shake if you are rly short on time etc and its time for you to eat again witch should be every 3 hours orso to max out your metabolism.
I have also heard from some people that after they switch back to normal food they gain some weight again fast.
Losing 3-5 pounds in a week is great dont get me wrong but with normal food, rest and some cardio/fitness you get the same results and it will save you some cash I think paying $50 or more for some shakes is just a money waste tbh.
I have been losing an avg. 0,65 lbs per day and I dont use anny shakes or protein bars or annything like that just 1 vitamin pill for my A,B,C etc because I dont eat that much vegi's and they cost 5 bucks for 120 pills so thats about 15 dollars per year :P
Annyway thats just my 2 cents
I agree with ya! for me its to satisfy that craving and a quick meal if needed. I dread to see what happens whe n people stop drinking those things 2 times a day!0 -
...its full of everything u need so NO your BODY is not STARVING...
Everything your body needs except calories. Everyone needs energy, and energy is calories full stop. Shakes are fine when taken as part of a balanced diet which includes enough calories to fuel your body. I am drinking slimfast shakes for breakfast (and having a meal bar with them to up the calorie count because I need to) and just aiming for the goal calories that MFP is suggesting.0 -
how do you get all your calories in for the day? i want to do 1-2 of these shakes a day, but with my calorie count being 1340 it seems hard to get them all in. The visalus shake is only 70 calories and 12 grams of protein with water. Any suggestions on how you get your calorie and protein count up?0
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Hi! My name is Michelle. I live in miami. I am a Visalus distributor who is in love with this product! Even tho i dont need to lose weight I am working on getting in shape for this summer and it is going great just with one shake a day. The visalus shake is 90 calories per serving. thats 2 scoops. and that is on water. with 2% fat milk. is 170 calories per shake. if you would like to add more calories. you can try it with soy milk like that ull increase the level of protein too. or just simply add an extra scoop and fruit to it. what are you targetting? 0
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It screams unhealthy to me....I have a lot of friends on it & sell it but even if you are drinking the 2 shakes a day with milk straight from the dairy & a healthy regular meal you'll come in low in calories.0
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The Vi shape has enough nutrition of vitamins and minerals and protein to help you feel full and energized. plus youre not only going to have 2 shakes a day youll have another balanced meal in between that will help you get those calories. Its not even abou the calories but the amount of nutrition youre getting0
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ITS crap and these people are pushing it down anybody who has a throat0
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Visalus "studies" have only been done by Visalus itself and reviews appear to have been done by distributors so all online searches make the product look great! However, it is SOY and SPLENDA - soy is not good for you, especially in that quantity and SPLENDA is an unnatural chemical that is no more good for you than sugar. Anyone can drink two shakes of any product and eat other small meals and lose weight. It is no more special than any other weight loss product.
Also - anyone who loses weight this way and then goes back to their original eating habits, especially without exercise, is going to balloon right back up to their starting weight.
On the financial note - many have won BMWs but what I wonder is WHO is financially backing the company which appeared to come out of no where. Too many people are winning the cars and selling somethign that can be gotten for free - if so many get it for "free" then where is the $$ coming from that funds the BMWs.
My sister in law sells it and so mnay people on FB sell it - I wish there was a way to block posts on FB that contain one word.....VISALUS!!0 -
I know a few people who have done Visalus (myself included) and we have all gained back the weight after stopping the shakes. Mainly this was because we did not take the time to learn about proper nutrition and therefor went back to eating the same old junk. As long as you understand this is not a miracle product and that you will still need to exercise and put in the effort it could work. The mix is very tasty and is great for someone who does not have alot of time for a meal. I still add the mix to my shakes a few times a week because it does have alot of nutrition in it.
It's like most weight loss products out there, you will only get out of it what you put into it. Do noy purchase it thinking you are going to lose weight the easy way and keep it off.0 -
Visalus "studies" have only been done by Visalus itself and reviews appear to have been done by distributors so all online searches make the product look great! However, it is SOY and SPLENDA - soy is not good for you, especially in that quantity and SPLENDA is an unnatural chemical that is no more good for you than sugar. Anyone can drink two shakes of any product and eat other small meals and lose weight. It is no more special than any other weight loss product.
Also - anyone who loses weight this way and then goes back to their original eating habits, especially without exercise, is going to balloon right back up to their starting weight.
On the financial note - many have won BMWs but what I wonder is WHO is financially backing the company which appeared to come out of no where. Too many people are winning the cars and selling somethign that can be gotten for free - if so many get it for "free" then where is the $$ coming from that funds the BMWs.
My sister in law sells it and so mnay people on FB sell it - I wish there was a way to block posts on FB that contain one word.....VISALUS!!
From my understanding YOU need to be able to get the BMW. It is your finance agreement with BMW. They merely make the payments so I am assuming that your $600 cheque goes to the $600 car payment. They get free advertising and you have to bust your butt to keep sales up so that you can make that car payment. If you don't make enough then you are stuck making the payment for your car and their free advertising.0 -
I did do it last year for 3 months and I did it exactly like I was suppose to, 2 shakes a day 2 healthy snacks, an apple and a orange and a very sensible meal in the evening. I can tell this.....I lost only 18 pounds and when I quit doing the shakes the weight came back with a vengeous plus more!!! I will say I wasn't hungry very much, bottom line for me is I will never do meal replacements again.0
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i started visalus because 1. my sisters were doing it and lost a lot of weight and are keeping it off
2. its cheaper to have 2 shakes a day then go out and buy groceries for meals cuz im a single mom of a 3mnth old.
3. it makes me feel full! if i have my meals of normal food i feel more hungry
4. it tastes good!
5. had nutrients u need that i prob wouldnt get if i wasnt doing it
and yes of course ppl will think its a scam and doesnt work, but if you think negative things then of course its gonna not work for ya! its called laws of attraction baby! Power of positive thinking! just ask einstein. hehe0
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