Question about net calories

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so I have looked at all the threads on eating back exercise calories. My calorie goal is set at 1,200 in order for me to lose 1.1lb per week. My current weight is 147 and my goal is 120 I have been netting 900 calories after exercise generally and not losing weight I am not sure what to do ? Should I make my net higher or lower and I recently changed my macros so feel free to look at my diary but the weeks before this week won't look as good macro wise or sodium wise but it wasn't until recently that I stopped losing...
Thanks !
Edit: I am 5'3"

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  • ambie35
    ambie35 Posts: 853 Member
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    everyones body works different so its hard to say for sure. However,I didn't lose weight for almost 2 weeks, and then I upped my calories so my net was closer to 1200 and 1.6 pounds in the past week. So upping worked for me I guess.
  • WifeMomDVM
    WifeMomDVM Posts: 1,025 Member
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    Not sure - your diary the past week looks great to me. I'd stick with that plan. I aim for around 1400 calories a day myself. Try incorporating some strength training with heavy weights and interval training for your cardio workouts. Works for me!
  • Nelly711
    Nelly711 Posts: 52
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    I have found that when I upped my calories, I lose a litle more. I was at 1200 calories, and exercising, burning about 300 calories, so I would eat those back, but still wasn't losing. I was tired and felt sluggish all the time, so I upped my calories to 1380 and felt alot better and in turn, was losing about .8 of a pound every week. Now, I am at a stand still, so I upped my calories a bit more, and am losing again. Watch your sodium intake as well, and make sure you are drinking all your water. I have read many articles that you should drink your weigh in ounces in water each day, so I started doing that as well.

    Good Luck!!
  • daveshoneybun
    daveshoneybun Posts: 76 Member
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    they told me that you needed to eat back your exercise calories to lose the weight, i try really hard to get there but sometimes i don't. Have been losing up till this week and i gained back 2lbs, but i had an injury to me knee and started a different exercise progam. hopefully this will help you.
  • dawnna76
    dawnna76 Posts: 987 Member
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    the answer is in your question. You have only been netting 900 calories. eat more! they recommend you get a NET of at least 1200 calories a day thats after exercise. So you need to take calories eaten and subtract calories burned to figure out where you are. Or on your my home tab it will tell you this in the little box that shows your daily goals.

    eat more so that the net is always at or slightly above the 1200 and you should see some weight come off.
  • eternlgladiator
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    I pretty much agree with everybody here. It looks like you're doing great but I would look to eat some more calories. Especially since it looks like you're doing some good workouts. Are you using mfp calculations for workout calories or do you have a hrm to get the exact number? If you're using the mfp calculation is safe to assume its a little high generally. I don't think you're being unhealthy but some more calories without changing anything else will probably help you lose more a little faster.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
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    just going on very very basic info,

    5'3" 147 lbs

    if you're not overly muscular, or have a metabolic condition, attempting a 1.1 lb weight loss is probably a bit aggressive for you, add to that not eating your exercise calories to maintain that 1.1 lb deficit and I'm not surprised it isn't working well for you. IMHO you should look into a smaller deficit, AND eating your exercise calories.

    Again this is based on very limited information, but seriously, for someone just barely above the normal BMI range, trying to lose over 1 lb a week added to not eating exercise calories is probably going to throw up some roadblocks.
  • hpsnickers1
    hpsnickers1 Posts: 2,783 Member
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    so I have looked at all the threads on eating back exercise calories. My calorie goal is set at 1,200 in order for me to lose 1.1lb per week. My current weight is 147 and my goal is 120 I have been netting 900 calories after exercise generally and not losing weight I am not sure what to do ? Should I make my net higher or lower and I recently changed my macros so feel free to look at my diary but the weeks before this week won't look as good macro wise or sodium wise but it wasn't until recently that I stopped losing...
    Thanks !
    Edit: I am 5'3"

    Yes, eat more. You don't have a lot of weight to lose. You can even lower your weight loss goal (2lbs is not realistic at your weight). This will increase your calorie consumption. And it is very, very important to eat your exercise calories because you don't have a lot of weight to lose.

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  • alanzo87
    alanzo87 Posts: 14
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    bump
  • CaraRadz
    CaraRadz Posts: 169 Member
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    I looked back over your diary for the last week (not including Sunday because it looks like you didn't complete your diary that day), and you actually averaged a net of 790.5 calories. One day, you only had a net of 539 calories. That is really not enough food.

    Your calorie goal from MFP is meant to be your NET calorie goal for the day, so I really think that you need to be eating more. Personally, I am a firm believer in eating back the vast majority of exercise calories, but I understand that it doesn't work for everyone. That said, I think you should try eating back more of your exercise calories and figure out how many of them you need to eat back to make your body respond and lose weight.
  • SamisHealthy
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    Okay I am going to eat back all the exercise calories then since I tried not eating any back and I lost a ton but felt terrible And I ate some back and didn't lose at all so I will start eating them all. So my goal net should be 1200 ? With or without exercise. And my goal is to lose about a pound per week. I checked with a heart rate monitor to make sure my cardio calories line up and I do strength training with a personal trainer 3 times a week but I don't log those calories I also do circuit strength training 2x a week and I don't log those calories only my spin and kickboxing classes
  • BflSaberfan
    BflSaberfan Posts: 1,272
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    so I have looked at all the threads on eating back exercise calories. My calorie goal is set at 1,200 in order for me to lose 1.1lb per week. My current weight is 147 and my goal is 120 I have been netting 900 calories after exercise generally and not losing weight I am not sure what to do ? Should I make my net higher or lower and I recently changed my macros so feel free to look at my diary but the weeks before this week won't look as good macro wise or sodium wise but it wasn't until recently that I stopped losing...
    Thanks !
    Edit: I am 5'3"

    I am 139 my goal is 125 and I'm 5'2 I work out 6 days a week, my calories are set at 1500 seems to be working nicely for me.
  • BflSaberfan
    BflSaberfan Posts: 1,272
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    Okay I am going to eat back all the exercise calories then since I tried not eating any back and I lost a ton but felt terrible And I ate some back and didn't lose at all so I will start eating them all. So my goal net should be 1200 ? With or without exercise. And my goal is to lose about a pound per week. I checked with a heart rate monitor to make sure my cardio calories line up and I do strength training with a personal trainer 3 times a week but I don't log those calories I also do circuit strength training 2x a week and I don't log those calories only my spin and kickboxing classes

    Personally I think your goal should be .5 lb a week. I know that seems painfully slow but you are already very close to a healthy weight range so you just might not be able to lose it as quickly.
  • SamisHealthy
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    BflSaberfan do you eat your exercise calories back so that you net 1500 ?
  • ysamatar
    ysamatar Posts: 484 Member
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    Bump! Great info.
  • BflSaberfan
    BflSaberfan Posts: 1,272
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    BflSaberfan do you eat your exercise calories back so that you net 1500 ?

    No I dont, this is my second week doing it this way, if at the end of next week I dont see a change I'm going to bump it up to 1700.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
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    FYI Sam, don't expect to bump your calories up from 900 (or whatever it is in actuallity) to like 1200 or 1400 net and see immediate drop, give it time, it takes weeks for the body to adapt to new nutritional levels, give yourself time to adjust, you may even gain a pound or two while you are adjusting, don't sweat that, it'll drop right back off once your body adjusts.
  • SamisHealthy
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    Okay thanks guys (: