Men vs. Women body image...
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yeah i don't think its gender specific. i think its a matter of what we experience. since i'm not a man, i don't know exactly what a fat man goes through but i sure as hell know what a fat woman experiences.
I can't say whether one gender has it harder than the other but i have had male friends who are/were obese and they had it really hard. they had low self esteems alot of self loathing they stopped taking care of themselves because of the hopelessness they felt. some of the saddest people i know are overweight men.
i would never presume i have it worse than them.0 -
I would take a nasty comment over the "you don't exist, I cannot see you" stare any day, speaking from experience women are a lot more polite vocally towards men, but your eyes do not lie.....
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I'm still holding my ground.
We have it just as hard.
J-lo was voted hottest woman in the world. Her body wouldn't be that hard to attain.
Ryan Reynolds was voted sexiest man alive a while back. Good luck achieving this:
Not to mention we have to work twice as hard because we can't cover up our imperfections with make-up.0 -
You think J LO's body wouldn't be hard to attain! Omg seriously. She is a perfect combination of toned muscle and fat. Plus it's where her weight naturally distributes. No matter how hard I try I will NEVER have an *kitten* like that.0
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^ funny thing is I noticed his face and eyes. and I agree J-lo looks athletic and if debate the challenges of getting ripped... guys have it worse.0
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We live in a sexist society where a woman's worth is based on her looks. A man, even if not conventionally attractive, is expected to have other qualities that make him worthwhile as a human being. Humor, intelligence, etc. So even if life isn't great for an overweight man, it doesn't compare to one as an overweight woman.
Look at commercials, virtually every diet food product, yogurt, etc. are marketed at women. Fast food is marketed toward men. Women are expected to be thin if they want to be loved. Sad...0 -
You think J LO's body wouldn't be hard to attain! Omg seriously. She is a perfect combination of toned muscle and fat. Plus it's where her weight naturally distributes. No matter how hard I try I will NEVER have an *kitten* like that.
I gotta say she's not even remotely toned in my opinion.
She just has a reasonable bodyfat percentage.
I get that you can't look exactly like her, because her *kitten* is a work of art.
But I'm saying it takes a lot more hard work to end up like Ryan Reynolds than it does J-Lo. Fat loss is easy. Building muscle and being under 12 percent bodyfat isn't.0 -
That's not hard to achieve?0 -
Even if women are toned and slender, they will still see imperfections in themselves. Something I notice first in a girl is how facially pretty she is. So she can have the most perfect body going and still be fugly. Same goes for guys. I suppose we just have to make the most with what we have.0
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I'm still holding my ground.
We have it just as hard.
J-lo was voted hottest woman in the world. Her body wouldn't be that hard to attain.
Ryan Reynolds was voted sexiest man alive a while back. Good luck achieving this:
Not to mention we have to work twice as hard because we can't cover up our imperfections with make-up.
Woman also have to spend thousands of dollars a year, on haircuts and makeup if we want to look presentable, at our jobs, in our social lives. Men can roll in in a button down and slacks right out of the shower. I'm not sure thats working harder.
And no, I will never have JLo's *kitten* and tiny waist no matter what I do. And how many girls get made fun of for being skinny fat, too muscular, too thin, too fat...its a very fine line between thin and toned we are expected to walk.0 -
Men have the same issues as females do, and vice versa. Biologically, we can't complain about a week out of the month to be prone to mood swings and the like, stretch marks due to children, or menopause. Outside of that realm, psychological effects aren't gender specific. If we get the looks, stares, comments, laughs at our expense, it still affects us.
That said, everybody is subject to judgment at anytime of the day, at any size, for every gender, race, religion, sexual preference, etc. No one is safe from judgment. Those who are recognized as having "perfect" bodies, get scrutinized under a magnifying glass to stay that way. Should there be a slight flaw, there's a sudden backlash effect that comes from being too relaxed. Should those who have less than perfect bodies begin attaining one, they become the flavor of the week until something happens or they become overshadowed by someone else.
I do me all day. Conceited/self-absorbed/selfish/overconfident/*kitten*/*kitten* as it may be, I couldn't give a fifth of a *kitten* about what other people think because they don't live my life, nor do I live theirs. Everything I do is solely for my own benefit.0 -
I think it's an artifact of the past to believe there's different pressure on men and women to maintain a certain body type. I think the difference is in what body type the pressure is out there to maintain, that part I believe is true, but I don't think it's true anymore that men are "allowed" to get away with the Archie Bunker body type and still be considered attractive.
I do; however, think this is a more recent development and that women have had to maintain a thin and toned body type far longer than has been expected of from men, but at least since the 80's the expectation from a male to maintain a cut, low fat body type has been the reality.
Read up on what Judy Garland and Marilyn Monroe did to maintain/lose weight. It's not a recent development. And while men are catching up on the anorexia front, women still dominate. Personally, I think the way to combat this is to raise us all up, not keep the obsession up so that both men and women equally feel they have to reach an unrealistic standard.
Furthermore, maybe not Archie Bunker, but I'm pretty sure a ton of women consider Seth Rogen attractive. I can't think of a female equivalent in Hollywood.0 -
I'm still holding my ground.
We have it just as hard.
J-lo was voted hottest woman in the world. Her body wouldn't be that hard to attain.
Ryan Reynolds was voted sexiest man alive a while back. Good luck achieving this:
OK, I definitely agree with that point there. Not to say that J Lo does not workout but there are many women who can lose weight and look amazing without spending hours in the gym. A man will not get abs like that without a lot of hard work. But in my opinion that's what makes it even sexier is the dedication that goes along with it!!!
Not to mention we have to work twice as hard because we can't cover up our imperfections with make-up.0 -
^^exactly0
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That's not hard to achieve?
In my honest opinion no. Her natural beauty isn't gonna come easy. But being that thin shouldn't be that difficult. I do forget that ya'll have to eat less to lose weight than we do. But I'm saying It's not like she's spent hours in the gym lifting to get where she is.0 -
That's not hard to achieve?
In my honest opinion no. Her natural beauty isn't gonna come easy. But being that thin shouldn't be that difficult. I do forget that ya'll have to eat less to lose weight than we do. But I'm saying It's not like she's spent hours in the gym lifting to get where she is.
I'd rather spend hours in the gym than be constantly hungry all day...which is what most women need to do to look like that. Even me, small-boned and petite, settle at several sizes bigger than her unless I really really restrict.0 -
I'd rather spend hours in the gym than be constantly hungry all day...which is what most women need to do to look like that. Even me, small-boned and petite, settle at several sizes bigger than her unless I really really restrict.
I agree with your first sentence.
The thing is to get that goal physique for guys, like ryan reynolds. You have to spend the countless hours in the gym and then once you get to size, continue putting more time in at the gym WHILE being hungry all day and trying to cut your bodyfat low enough to make your abs show.
Thats years of dedication.
I hope to get remotely close to that one day, but it's probably another 3 years of constant training and perfect nutrition before I'll be anywhere near it.0 -
That's not hard to achieve?
In my honest opinion no. Her natural beauty isn't gonna come easy. But being that thin shouldn't be that difficult. I do forget that ya'll have to eat less to lose weight than we do. But I'm saying It's not like she's spent hours in the gym lifting to get where she is.
I agree! Instead of ppl sitting on here complaining about their weight they should do something about it. JLO wasn't born with that body,....she made it..most ppl want a sexy body but don't want to work hard for it, instead they blame their weight gain on everything else but themselves! If you packed it on, then trim it off!! I know a female that has 4 kids...and you would never know it, because she worked her *kitten* off to get the body she wanted! HARD WORK PAYS OFF!!! If you don't like your body THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT....TALK IS CHEAP!!!!0 -
bowing out of this arguement, gonna go put some time in on the field. running and working towards my goals instead of arguing online
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I was a fat girl at once but was never judge. I was alway told my personal was great and I had a great smile. It's the person personality. I also never gave a **** what other people thought all that matter was how I felt inside.
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That's not hard to achieve?
All I know, is that's HOT!!0 -
+Men have the same issues as females do, and vice versa. Biologically, we can't complain about a week out of the month to be prone to mood swings and the like, stretch marks due to children, or menopause. Outside of that realm, psychological effects aren't gender specific. If we get the looks, stares, comments, laughs at our expense, it still affects us.
That said, everybody is subject to judgment at anytime of the day, at any size, for every gender, race, religion, sexual preference, etc. No one is safe from judgment. Those who are recognized as having "perfect" bodies, get scrutinized under a magnifying glass to stay that way. Should there be a slight flaw, there's a sudden backlash effect that comes from being too relaxed. Should those who have less than perfect bodies begin attaining one, they become the flavor of the week until something happens or they become overshadowed by someone else.
I do me all day. Conceited/self-absorbed/selfish/overconfident/*kitten*/*kitten* as it may be, I couldn't give a fifth of a *kitten* about what other people think because they don't live my life, nor do I live theirs. Everything I do is solely for my own benefit.
seriously best comment yet. why is everyone so worried about everyone elses progress?? this is the one area i'm completely seflish in. i love me and i don't give a **** what anyone else thinks. why is that so hard???-0 -
All I know is this:
Women put the pressure on themselves more than than men do. Women are always trying to look better than the next gal while guys are not as preoccupied by that sort of competition. Men compete with each other by being bigger and stronger, which doesn't always mean they are in good shape. You might be a big strong dude and not many people will comment on your weight just becaue you're a big strong dude. Heck, even a lot of women like the big teddy bear types.
Actually, I think it's probably worse for a guy to be short and skinny than to be big and overweight (to a point anyway). Most women don't want to date guys whose *kitten* they think they can kick.
I think for guys, the reaction of women to how you look is a lot bigger deal than what other guys say. First off, not many guys (outside of HS) would make fat jokes about a guy that's bigger than them. Second, if you're still getting the ladies you probably are not going to be overly concerned with how you look. I find women are nearly the opposite. Women will talk trash to each other about weight and while what men think is important to them it does not stop them from freaking over their weight even if plenty of guys think they are attractive.
Sure, there is a point where a guy can get so overweight that women won't even talk to them but I think most overweight guys with a decent personality can get dates. I managed to do plenty of dating before I found my wife and at the time I was well over 80 pounds over my goal weight.0 -
Bahahaha not thinking it's hard for a FEMALE to get abs like JLo's is just ignorant. It takes just as hard work for a woman to look good as men do. This is ridicuolus. Both genders have their chalanges.0
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I couldn't disagree more with the original post.0
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I still say women are harder on other women.0
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Fat is fat Male or female at least to me I make fun of fat guys all the time at work I nicknamed a fat guy FAT BOY. But I wouldn't do that to a woman. It would be very disrespectful to do that0
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