Cholesterol: the BIG KILLER

AngelicaDulas
AngelicaDulas Posts: 196
edited September 2024 in Food and Nutrition
I was looking over my full food report and noticed my cholesterol intake on there. It's not one I track so i never see it unless I look at the full report. It got me curious as to what the daily allowance is: it's 300mg typically unless you're trying to reduce already high cholesterol, then it's 200mg. Now, in all the time I've been tracking, I've averaged only 85 mg a day, mostly from real butter and cheese. Makes me feel good to know I eat so little! I hope this means my arteries and heart will thank me in the long run. :)

Here's a link to a good article on how cholesterol affects our bodies.

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4574152_high-cholesterol-affect-human-body.html

What is your cholesterol intake like? Do you have a family history of heart disease, stroke or atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries)??

Healthy Eating!!
~Angelica

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  • Fayve
    Fayve Posts: 406 Member
    Watch the documentary "Fat Head". Cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease. /sagely nod
  • CristineD
    CristineD Posts: 59 Member
    My mom, only 53, suffered 3 heart attacks on Thursday and had emergency surgery that afternoon. Doctor said it was caused by high cholesterol. She's said to make a full recovery. Thing is my mom wanted to sign up to MFP this weekend and have me show her how it works so she could improve her diet. It is being changed radically due to poor food choices and it's made me want to take a closer look at mine and what I feed my own family.
  • 6Janelle13
    6Janelle13 Posts: 353 Member
    It does contribute to the damage. watching your intake is important but heart disease is a complicated disease with many contributing factors.
  • It does contribute to the damage. watching your intake is important but heart disease is a complicated disease with many contributing factors.

    I do agree with that! i hope no one thinks I was stating that cholesterol is the only cause! I posted because it was something that came to my attention as a contributing factor. My father had terrible heart problems and I was always scared of the hereditary factor (i have WPW - Wolff Parkinsons White) of the added stress of high cholesterol or other damaging conditions. :ohwell:
  • jrusso28
    jrusso28 Posts: 249 Member
    My mom, only 53, suffered 3 heart attacks on Thursday and had emergency surgery that afternoon. Doctor said it was caused by high cholesterol. She's said to make a full recovery. Thing is my mom wanted to sign up to MFP this weekend and have me show her how it works so she could improve her diet. It is being changed radically due to poor food choices and it's made me want to take a closer look at mine and what I feed my own family.

    I truly hope your mom makes a full recovery, she's in our prayers.

    I had a scare back in November and basically jump started my healthy in 2011 campaign.
    My cholesterol was through the roof (genetic-runs in my family), but with my new diet, exercise and doctor prescribed LOVASA (fish oil) I have dropped my cholesterol to the good range for the first time in my life.

    God Bless!
  • Fayve
    Fayve Posts: 406 Member
    It does contribute to the damage. watching your intake is important but heart disease is a complicated disease with many contributing factors.

    Sorry, I probably came off a bit cold with my comment. This is true. However, there are a few interesting things about cholesterol.

    In women over 50, the higher their cholesterol is, the more healthy they will be (lower risk of heart disease). The link between the two is often stressed by doctors, but there is no proven link that cholesterol causes heart disease (although I think it can hasten up the damage if you have heart disease, or something like that).
  • lovinmamaxo
    lovinmamaxo Posts: 368 Member
    WOW this is good to know! I am allowed 300 in chol a day and most of the time i am under the goal by more than 100. I think once i went over. I think this will be on my main page for tracking now.. instead of fiber. I always go over on fiber anyway lol Thanks for this.
  • CristineD
    CristineD Posts: 59 Member
    I think in my mother's case there were a number of contributing factors - lack of exercise, high stress lifestyle and very poor food choices generally. I'd been saying to her for years that she needs to cut back on the processed food, the high fat food and the bad-for-you snacks she always picks. Thursday gave her a huge fright. I think much of the time, and I know this from my own experience, we think we're invincible and that high cholesterol and heart problems will always affect someone else and their family....until it hits your own.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    Watch the documentary "Fat Head". Cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease. /sagely nod

    Yep, I was going to say the same thing!!! Read Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes too and Why We Get Fat by the same author..............

    Heart Disease can be caused by a virus or most times it is actually caused by chronic inflammation caused by a long term high carb intake.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    My mom, only 53, suffered 3 heart attacks on Thursday and had emergency surgery that afternoon. Doctor said it was caused by high cholesterol. She's said to make a full recovery. Thing is my mom wanted to sign up to MFP this weekend and have me show her how it works so she could improve her diet. It is being changed radically due to poor food choices and it's made me want to take a closer look at mine and what I feed my own family.

    I would say the Doctor is going by "old medicine" from about 50 years ago when they coined saturated fat and cholesterol as bad foods when this is far from the truth.

    Chronic inflammation causes heart disease and if she was making poor food choices that contained sugar and white flour (and sometimes even whole grains) those items are more the cause than high cholesterol.

    My doctor wants me to raise my cholesterol back up to between 200 - 235. She has told me several times that you are better protected with higher cholesterol than lower, this is based on new research which has shot down the old studies that advocated the low cholesterol and low fat eating plans.

    My total cholesterol is only 158 and I eat upwards of 50-70% fat (and a high % of saturated fat) and I eat 5-8 eggs per day and yet my cholesterol continues to stay low.........
  • taletreader
    taletreader Posts: 377 Member
    The thing to remember about cholesterol is that *blood* cholesterol (the LDL type) is a contributing factor to heart disease, but that blood cholesterol is in most people not (and in a few people only moderately) affected by *food* cholesterol. Our metabolism is more complicated than that. Several foodstuffs, including eggs, got a bad rap because they contain cholesterol -- but then researchers checked if eating them actually raised blood cholesterol, and found that for most people, NO.

    Also, remember that potatoes (cholesterol-free) fried in vegetable oil (cholesterol-free) -- AKA French fries -- if overconsumed can raise your blood cholesterol.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    The thing to remember about cholesterol is that *blood* cholesterol (the LDL type) is a contributing factor to heart disease, but that blood cholesterol is in most people not (and in a few people only moderately) affected by *food* cholesterol. Our metabolism is more complicated than that. Several foodstuffs, including eggs, got a bad rap because they contain cholesterol -- but then researchers checked if eating them actually raised blood cholesterol, and found that for most people, NO.

    Also, remember that potatoes (cholesterol-free) fried in vegetable oil (cholesterol-free) -- AKA French fries -- if overconsumed can raise your blood cholesterol.

    The reason being is because Starch (potatos) and vegetable oil (PUFAS) actually cause inflammation in the body.
  • kacarter1017
    kacarter1017 Posts: 651 Member

    In women over 50, the higher their cholesterol is, the more healthy they will be (lower risk of heart disease). The link between the two is often stressed by doctors, but there is no proven link that cholesterol causes heart disease (although I think it can hasten up the damage if you have heart disease, or something like that).

    Directly from the AHA's Guidelines for treatment of heart disease:" elevated LDL cholesterol
    is a major cause of CHD. In addition, recent clinical trials robustly
    show that LDL-lowering therapy reduces risk for CHD."

    My job is to treat women with heart disease and those who are at risk for heart disease. It's irresponsible comments like yours that initiate misinformation and cause women to not seek medical care, or more tragically, suffer from a cardiac event.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member

    In women over 50, the higher their cholesterol is, the more healthy they will be (lower risk of heart disease). The link between the two is often stressed by doctors, but there is no proven link that cholesterol causes heart disease (although I think it can hasten up the damage if you have heart disease, or something like that).

    Directly from the AHA's Guidelines for treatment of heart disease:" elevated LDL cholesterol
    is a major cause of CHD. In addition, recent clinical trials robustly
    show that LDL-lowering therapy reduces risk for CHD."

    My job is to treat women with heart disease and those who are at risk for heart disease. It's irresponsible comments like yours that initiate misinformation and cause women to not seek medical care, or more tragically, suffer from a cardiac event.

    Her comments are not irresponsible or misinformation. What she said is the truth. There are plenty of studies and research that support her statements.

    The AHA is still spewing the old, outdated information from the 50's that Ansel Keys started, but it was never scientifically proven.

    A snippet taken from an article I am going to post the link to.........

    http://www.health-report.co.uk/saturated_fats_health_benefits.htm
    The Framingham Heart Study is often cited as proof of the lipid hypothesis. This study began in 1948 and involved some 6,000 people from the town of Framingham, Massachusetts. Two groups were compared at five-year intervals—those who consumed little cholesterol and saturated fat and those who consumed large amounts. After 40 years, the director of this study had to admit: "In Framingham, Mass, the more saturated fat one ate, the more cholesterol one ate, the more calories one ate, the lower the person’s serum cholesterol. . . we found that the people who ate the most cholesterol, ate the most saturated fat, ate the most calories, weighed the least and were the most physically active."3 The study did show that those who weighed more and had abnormally high blood cholesterol levels were slightly more at risk for future heart disease; but weight gain and cholesterol levels had an inverse correlation with fat and cholesterol intake in the diet.

    While it is true that researchers have induced heart disease in some animals by giving them extremely large dosages of oxidized or rancid cholesterol—amounts ten times that found in the ordinary human diet—several population studies squarely contradict the cholesterol-heart disease connection. A survey of 1700 patients with hardening of the arteries, conducted by the famous heart surgeon Michael DeBakey, found no relationship between the level of cholesterol in the blood and the incidence of atherosclerosis.9 A survey of South Carolina adults found no correlation of blood cholesterol levels with "bad" dietary habits, such as use of red meat, animal fats, fried foods, butter, eggs, whole milk, bacon, sausage and cheese.10 A Medical Research Council survey showed that men eating butter ran half the risk of developing heart disease as those using margarine.11

    Mother’s milk provides a higher proportion of cholesterol than almost any other food. It also contains over 50% of its calories as fat, much of it saturated fat. Both cholesterol and saturated fat are essential for growth in babies and children, especially the development of the brain.12 Yet, the American Heart Association is now recommending a low-cholesterol, lowfat diet for children! Commercial formulas are low in saturated fats and soy formulas are devoid of cholesterol. A recent study linked lowfat diets with failure to thrive in children.13
  • Meganne1982
    Meganne1982 Posts: 451
    Watch the documentary "Fat Head". Cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease. /sagely nod

    And visit the Weston Price foundation website: westonaprice.org

    Eating Fat and Cholesterol have been red herrings of weightloss and health for too long!
  • kacarter1017
    kacarter1017 Posts: 651 Member
    The study did show that those who weighed more and had abnormally high blood cholesterol levels were slightly more at risk for future heart disease.

    This is from that study you just posted. Even as you use this to try to support your point, it supports mine! I don't care how much cholesterol you eat. What matters is what your levels are. Typically they correlate, but they don't have to. This study is not perfect. I'm not going to go into the analysis of the study, but there are several double blinded randomized studies that show a much closer correlation.

    In the end, it's your choice. With 25 years in cardiology, I will tell you, you're wrong.
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