Are we kidding ourselves?

Well, this is kinda hard...while I have seen changes in my body faster than I see weight loss in some cases, I cannot say that I have seen where I lose inches and not weight. I think I tend to agree with JM. Another thing, on Biggest Loser, you are talking about pretty big people with a LOT of weight to lose....in their cases, I think you should see the weight changing faster than the inches....

I do think that everyone's body is different and will respond to diet and exercise differently. I think when things stall we just need to keep making sure we are staying on track and not giving up. This is a process that will take time....

Jillian is very successful, but she is not God. I am a fan for sure, and I have her workouts and just bought her book actually...but, with that said, every word that comes out of her mouth I am not going to agree with. But, I also am a firm believer in if you want to be like (or look like!!) a person, do what they say!!

I think she was just being a *****.

Have a look at my blog on here. There was on month where the scales stood still, but I lost inches. And I know I've gained muscle; my biceps are bigger, for a start, and I can lift more. Either I'm a total freak of nature and should be in a lab, or she was being harsher than she needed to be.

I don't think we are kidding ourselves. I NEVER lose inches and pounds at the same time. I've been gaining and losing weight my whole life and this has proven to be true for me. I drop a few pounds, stop losing, lose inches and then the scale drops some more. IMHO, I think everyone is different, our bodies may all be human, but we all work slightly different. Some so-called diets work for some and not for others even if we stick to them to the letter. This just means we're all a bit different. It takes some tinkering sometimes to find out what works for each of us. I think its unwise to make blanket statements, particularly in the media, that discourage folks from even trying to eat better and get healthy. Just my 2 cents.

Hell - I told one of my friends from real life who complimented a pic of me on FB to be a real friend and point out my weak parts!

It's TOTALLY true! Too many people over-estimate the number of calories they burn in a workout because the machine or HRM gives them some ridiculous number. Some people feel that eye-balling serving sizes is accurate (maybe if you've been using instruments long enough and even then you're prone to slip ups). People kid themselves ALL THE TIME.

If you've gone four weeks without losing a pound (assuming that you think you're trying) it is NOT because you're in "starvation mode". Given that you don't have some rare medical condition, you aren't losing because your intake is greater than what you're using.

Jillian is to blame, too! She sent these people home without giving them the tools necessary to figure out how to FEED THEMSELVES! SHE FAILED TOO! She should be angry. At herself.

Jilliam Michaels is NOT a doctor. I've been monitored by a doctor and absolutely have lost inches with little scale change, and I absolutely have increased muscle in month. Not much, but its been certainly trackable.

She makes her living off fat people staying fat. For all her talk, she's laughing all the way to bank because people hold her in high esteem because of the way she is presented on TV and buy up her videos, books and assorted other stuff.

She disgusts me. For someone who has a multimillion dollar business off the misfortunes and difficulties of others should be more respectful.

Just my two cents.

I've been working out for 2 months now. Haven't lost any weight but taking pics and seeing results. I started race walking and jogging along with squats and core workouts and yes I see muscle building in my legs.
Jillian Michaels doesn't know everything.... its always her way or the highway.

I don't recall seeing any intervention on WHY these people ate themselves to near-death. No, you just see horribly unfit people forced to exercise until they vomit.

The only episode I have seen did quite a bit of this - making people confront their feelings and such.

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"That show is a complete farce. Read any of the interviews of the contestants who dared break their contracts to say what really goes on there.

If people could exercise themselves into fitness, everyone would be doing it. Granted, I've only ever seen a few episodes of the show because it was so nonsenical, but I don't recall seeing any advice on eating plans. I don't recall seeing any intervention on WHY these people ate themselves to near-death. No, you just see horribly unfit people forced to exercise until they vomit.

Not a sustainable plan. The contestants don't learn anything about a sustainable lifestyle, nor do they address the underlying causes of their issues with food. I wouldn't be surprised if most of them gain a lot of weight back and are in endless psychiatric care following their participation."
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If you watched the show more than a couple times you would see that, yes, they actually do teach better eating habits and the importance of changing your lifestyle. They also try to dig down to the psychological reasons the contestants overeat. I think the reason they break their necks with seemingly endless workouts is because they have SO much weight to lose in one season (approximately 3 months). The total weight they lose is not at a healthy rate, which I think is why most of the contestants end up gaining a lot of weight back. I have seen that the ones who are able to keep it off have worked activities into their everyday lives. A lot of them go on to become fitness instructors.

As far as the original post is concerned, I think Jillian was being more harsh than she needed to be. I think it is definitely possible to see a change in inches without a change in weight. I think it would be hard to sustain this for a month though, so she does have a point. If that contestant was truly committed to the process, she would have seen a bigger loss on the scale.

Jillian had a little fit. The show cut to her sitting and talking straight to the camera. She was very frustrated. She said she is tired of all of the BS that comes with weightloss. She said that a lot of trainers basically lie to their clients by saying things like you are building muscle in a month (which she says you can't). She said another crap statement that she hears all the time is you can lose inches even though the scale says you are not losing weight. She said most of the time most people are kidding themselves and making excuses and telling themselves what they want to hear.

I am wondering what you guys think of her opinion of this. Is she just being tough of is she right?

Jillian Michaels is FOS. And I say that without reservation. It is easy and common for an untrained person to gain muscle while losing fat. I know that from my own experience and well the number of posts your see here on MFP and elsewhere of people freaking out that they have just started an exercise program and they can't understand why they are losing inches, but not pounds. We see that almost every day, right? And the answer is always as long as you are losing inches, don't worry about it.

Jillian Michaels is on TV because she makes good TV. She is a bully, and for whatever reason we like seeing that as long as we're not on the receiving end. She could be dishing out good observations, but we'll never know because we can't tell if she's being sincere, or just a bully. She's made a mountain of cash by being a blowhard, but she'll never be respected as a fitness expert. I guess you pays your money and takes your choice.

So I went for my test today..............In 1 month My fat weight was down 2.8kg. My lean weight was up by 200gms. My water was also up 300 mls

So can you gain muscle in 1 month yep