Why you should never tip

RhineDHP
RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
edited March 6 in Chit-Chat
Perusing through my FB feed as per the usual, and came across this article that someone linked. It was pretty interesting to say the least.

http://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/why-you-should-stop-tipping-reasons-not-to-tip

Care to discuss? Even after reading through the whole thing, I'd feel bad not tipping a waiter after dining in. What are your thoughts?

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  • SGM_Adonis
    SGM_Adonis Posts: 1,565 Member
    I tip out of custom at very least 10% if given bad service, 15% if it's okay service, and 20-25% if it's exceptional service or if I notice the waiter/waitress is having a rough, busy day.

    That said, when I've traveled to "3rd" world countries, it is often advised not to over tip because it throws off the economy. Whatever that means. But thinking about it after reading the article, I guess it does build a certain sense of expectation from the waiter/waitress.
  • BigT555
    BigT555 Posts: 2,067 Member
    tipping is *kitten*. states, give your waiters a half decent wage and get rid of the expectation. it spilling over to canada where waiters already make a good living without $100+ in cash tips per night
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    BigT555 wrote: »
    tipping is *kitten*. states, give your waiters a half decent wage and get rid of the expectation. it spilling over to canada where waiters already make a good living without $100+ in cash tips per night
    You consider Canadian minimum wage to be "living good"?

    Sidenote: Awesome article - it's good to get people thinking. Of course there will be those who will only read the first paragraph and then bash in the comments.
    I personally am of the mindset where if you cannot afford your lifestyle, find ways to correct it. That being said, I always tip very high (30%) when I have exceptional service knowing that those may not have any other options for income.
  • BigT555
    BigT555 Posts: 2,067 Member
    edited October 2014
    jkwolly wrote: »
    BigT555 wrote: »
    tipping is *kitten*. states, give your waiters a half decent wage and get rid of the expectation. it spilling over to canada where waiters already make a good living without $100+ in cash tips per night
    You consider Canadian minimum wage to be "living good"?

    Sidenote: Awesome article - it's good to get people thinking. Of course there will be those who will only read the first paragraph and then bash in the comments.
    I personally am of the mindset where if you cannot afford your lifestyle, find ways to correct it. That being said, I always tip very high (30%) when I have exceptional service knowing that those may not have any other options for income.
    i do. if you can get by in canada without much stress then youre living good. and a 40 hour week at minimum wage is enough for that, and if it isnt then your outliving your means

    you're wrong by the way, i didnt even click the link, let alone read the first paragraph. i just have a strong opinion against tipping (yet i do it in most cases because of societal norms) and i chose to voice it here

    eta; also, i just read the artcile in question and i seem to have said exactly what the author is trying to say, so im not sure what you're playing at
  • SwannySez
    SwannySez Posts: 5,860 Member
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  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    edited October 2014
    ou're wrong by the way, i didnt even click the link, let alone read the first paragraph. i just have a strong opinion against tipping (yet i do it in most cases because of societal norms) and i chose to voice it here
    My sidenote wasn't directed at you, but looks like the shoe fit!
    i do. if you can get by in canada without much stress then youre living good. and a 40 hour week at minimum wage is enough for that, and if it isnt then your outliving your means
    I live in Edmonton. Minimum wage in Alberta is $10.20. Working a 40 hour work week, that's $408 gross per week. If you're saying that $816 bi-weekly (gross) is living good, you've got a whacked sense of what "good" is.

    Blah blah yes compared to other countries it may seem like a lot, but with the cost of living here that is quite expensive and the job market that is hot hot hot, it's not a fair comparison.

    If I lived in Detroit and couldn't get a well paying job and serving was my only option, then heck yes I'd "live within my means". Apples and oranges. It all depends on where you live.


  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    edited October 2014
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  • SuninVirgo
    SuninVirgo Posts: 255 Member
    SGM_Adonis wrote: »
    I tip out of custom at very least 10% if given bad service, 15% if it's okay service, and 20-25% if it's exceptional service or if I notice the waiter/waitress is having a rough, busy day.

    That said, when I've traveled to "3rd" world countries, it is often advised not to over tip because it throws off the economy. Whatever that means. But thinking about it after reading the article, I guess it does build a certain sense of expectation from the waiter/waitress.

    Sweden is a first world county with a better quality of living than the US, even Canada and they don't tip there.
  • Bucky83
    Bucky83 Posts: 1,194 Member
    This is why I love living in Australia. We only tip if we get exceptional service and even then it's not customary.

    I was amazed at the expectation of tipping in NYC when I was there in May. There were times I didn't want to tip because of terrible service yet felt guilty if I didn't tip.
  • shai74
    shai74 Posts: 512 Member
    edited October 2014
    No tipping in Australia either. People get an appropriate wage for the work they do. Their families well-being is not reliant of the generosity and mood of their "customers" on any given day.

    We also have great healthcare, and we don't leave guns laying around the house so our teenagers can have a bad day and go shoot all their classmates. Our teenagers just yell and slam doors like normal people.

    Thanks in advance for the Flags :)
  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
    edited October 2014
    Well, I do think that people who don't tip are miserly snakes. Both of my daughters made their way through college and advanced degrees working in restaurants. The work was brutal, the hours worse. and if a table skipped out on a tab, they had to pay the bill out of their pay. Fortunately, they both had an excellent work ethic and excellent manners, which allowed to bring home a good income. They were very happy to escape the industry to become accountants and designers. But the result of hearing about their experiences is that I always tip high. Trying to change the system by penalizing your server is not going to help. Leave a good tip and try not to be too much trouble.
  • RhineDHP
    RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
    shai74 wrote: »
    we don't leave guns laying around the house so our teenagers can have a bad day and go shoot all their classmates.

    pfff
  • Medivh73
    Medivh73 Posts: 140 Member
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  • sydneydeb
    sydneydeb Posts: 93 Member
    I'm in Australia and tipping is not customery but I was in Canada last August and knew it was exepcted and after learning what their minimum wage was I didn't mind so much. I didn't so much go by percentage unless I was using one of the POS machines, love how they have a tip button so easy, but if I was buying a meal or something I'd just leave the change behind. Canada is so awesome, can't wait to go back :smiley:
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