Advice for diabetic mom. I think I hit a plateau right from beginning.
minideema
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Hello,
I have lost a few pounds only in the last six months. I have been doing gyming and yoga almost five days a week. Also weekly once yard work. Yard work and walking work wonders on my sugar levels. But even if I add a spoon of rice to my diet my numbers go up. My biggest challenge is a thick waist line. All the weight is there. I have stick legs and toned body otherwise.
Please any advice on how to loose pounds for diabetics is welcome. I think I have hit a plateau now.
I logged in on another site since September and it shows I almost two thousand calories every week that I saved. But I did not loose weight. I did log very honestly and almost daily.
On the plus side I am doing more elliptical now since I started six months back. Thirty minutes with burn out of 247 daily. Plus yoga twenty to thirty mins. My waist line has loosened a bit although it still shines, since rest of the body has trimmed out more.
My AIc went down by .3 points too. But I feel my hardwork is not being compensated.
I am a very busy mom of two kids under five. And no joke taking them to gym everyday with me.
Thanks.
I have lost a few pounds only in the last six months. I have been doing gyming and yoga almost five days a week. Also weekly once yard work. Yard work and walking work wonders on my sugar levels. But even if I add a spoon of rice to my diet my numbers go up. My biggest challenge is a thick waist line. All the weight is there. I have stick legs and toned body otherwise.
Please any advice on how to loose pounds for diabetics is welcome. I think I have hit a plateau now.
I logged in on another site since September and it shows I almost two thousand calories every week that I saved. But I did not loose weight. I did log very honestly and almost daily.
On the plus side I am doing more elliptical now since I started six months back. Thirty minutes with burn out of 247 daily. Plus yoga twenty to thirty mins. My waist line has loosened a bit although it still shines, since rest of the body has trimmed out more.
My AIc went down by .3 points too. But I feel my hardwork is not being compensated.
I am a very busy mom of two kids under five. And no joke taking them to gym everyday with me.
Thanks.
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Dont see how being diabetic is relevant. If it was, then you wouldnt have lost any weight....-4
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Weight loss comes down to calories in<calories out. If you aren't losing, you're eating more than you think, regardless of any health issues. How do you measure your food: food scale, measuring cups, eyeballing portions? How do you determine your burns on the elliptical? Do you eat back all your exercise calories?0
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Your diary isn't public so we can't see what you're eating. At first most people do not buy a food scale and either use measuring cups or guess how much they are eating. This leads to inaccurate food intake so if you do not have a food scale or are not using it for everything you put into your mouth, then you are eating more calories than you think.
My mom is diabetic and her doctor told her that she needs to lose weight to keep her diabetes in check, she bought the same food scale I have and within the first day I got a call from her telling me the scale must be broken because 1 serving of cereal can't be that small. No, it really is. Weigh everything you eat, measure out everything you drink and you'll notice a change soon.0 -
Um for those who don't know it is harder to lose weight when you are diabetic because your body converts carbs into fat pretty fast and seems to struggle to break it down.
I'm not diabetic but i've picked this up from around the ridges.
Anyway as you know you do have to cut back on the carbs but you probably also know that eating carbs with low GI foods should slow things down in a positive way a bit. I take it you know all about GI? If not, then you should learn about it. the glycaemic index and glycaemic loading are concepts that diabetics more than the rest of us need to understand .
Eat more protein and fat to compensate for the carbs. Fat for energy and protein because you need to eat enough anyway to recover from all the workouts you are doing. Also your brain may need to use the protein for energy if its not getting enough carb energy, at least in the beginning. You might even want to look at low carb diets. I did it for 6 weeks. I think trying to keep your carbs around 100 is a good idea. This will mean eating a lot less processed carbs and keep your vegetables up. Fruit is fine too but high in carbs as well. If you want to go this route, you need to read up on it from a variety of sources. I do not believe you need to live the induction diet of Atkins. Rather i think you are better off not going too low because its too restrictive and this can ultimately cause problems for people.
Also look into the fast diet 5:2. There is a website and a tv show you might want to check out. The website is called the fast diet and you should read the faq, the southern hemisphere thread and various others. There are a number of ex diabetics over there. Some of them combine the fasting diet with low carbing.
And yes you will lose weight more slowly when you have diabetes. So you must be more patient. Take the long term view. Don't run yourself into the ground with exercise. Diet is ultimately the most important thing. Fibre is very very good. look at this program:
Catalyst - Gut Reaction Part One on you tube and part 2. Read Gut Flora on wikipedia after you've watched the show. You probably won't understand it if you read it before.
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Patttience wrote: »Um for those who don't know it is harder to lose weight when you are diabetic because your body converts carbs into fat pretty fast and seems to struggle to break it down.
I'm not diabetic but i've picked this up from around the ridges.
Anyway as you know you do have to cut back on the carbs but you probably also know that eating carbs with low GI foods should slow things down in a positive way a bit. I take it you know all about GI? If not, then you should learn about it. the glycaemic index and glycaemic loading are concepts that diabetics more than the rest of us need to understand .
Eat more protein and fat to compensate for the carbs. Fat for energy and protein because you need to eat enough anyway to recover from all the workouts you are doing. Also your brain may need to use the protein for energy if its not getting enough carb energy, at least in the beginning. You might even want to look at low carb diets. I did it for 6 weeks. I think trying to keep your carbs around 100 is a good idea. This will mean eating a lot less processed carbs and keep your vegetables up. Fruit is fine too but high in carbs as well. If you want to go this route, you need to read up on it from a variety of sources. I do not believe you need to live the induction diet of Atkins. Rather i think you are better off not going too low because its too restrictive and this can ultimately cause problems for people.
Also look into the fast diet 5:2. There is a website and a tv show you might want to check out. The website is called the fast diet and you should read the faq, the southern hemisphere thread and various others. There are a number of ex diabetics over there. Some of them combine the fasting diet with low carbing.
And yes you will lose weight more slowly when you have diabetes. So you must be more patient. Take the long term view. Don't run yourself into the ground with exercise. Diet is ultimately the most important thing. Fibre is very very good. look at this program:
Catalyst - Gut Reaction Part One on you tube and part 2. Read Gut Flora on wikipedia after you've watched the show. You probably won't understand it if you read it before.
Thanks for understanding. I try to eat less carbs, but they seem to be in everything. Eating more fat and protein gave me a solid pot belly. So much that I looked pregnant due any time. Exercise has reduced the belly fat so I look a bit respectable. I am relying on slow fat burn on elliptical and yard work. Since I get tired, I like to exercise slowly. Will check out the links u gave. Thanks. I was looking for that kind of links too.
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Weight loss comes down to calories in<calories out. If you aren't losing, you're eating more than you think, regardless of any health issues. How do you measure your food: food scale, measuring cups, eyeballing portions? How do you determine your burns on the elliptical? Do you eat back all your exercise calories?
I burn 247 on elliptical at fat burn mode everyday in thirty minutes. The machine tell me so. I use cups now to be sure. I was guessing till now. It's shocking! Oil just one tsp is 37 calories? I realized oil plus nuts were killing me. Since I am diabetic and like to snack on low carbs, nuts came as easy tasty option.
But I have been doing this two months and no change in weight.0 -
Being diabetic means I can't eat carbs. My husband can eat one cup rice but I cannot eat more than a tsp of rice. I have to fill in with carrots and cucumbers. Plus I get tired. Six months on elliptical and my progress is only thirty mins on light mode.Dont see how being diabetic is relevant. If it was, then you wouldnt have lost any weight....
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Weight loss comes down to calories in<calories out. If you aren't losing, you're eating more than you think, regardless of any health issues. How do you measure your food: food scale, measuring cups, eyeballing portions? How do you determine your burns on the elliptical? Do you eat back all your exercise calories?FitFitzy331 wrote: »Your diary isn't public so we can't see what you're eating. At first most people do not buy a food scale and either use measuring cups or guess how much they are eating. This leads to inaccurate food intake so if you do not have a food scale or are not using it for everything you put into your mouth, then you are eating more calories than you think.
My mom is diabetic and her doctor told her that she needs to lose weight to keep her diabetes in check, she bought the same food scale I have and within the first day I got a call from her telling me the scale must be broken because 1 serving of cereal can't be that small. No, it really is. Weigh everything you eat, measure out everything you drink and you'll notice a change soon.
I agree the amount of calories in a tsp of oil and nuts are shocking. The only month I lost weight was when I quit non veg including eggs completely. For a month only though.i realized chicken was very high in cals. So it's just fish and egg whites for me.
But you are right! Portions are shocking.
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I burn 247 on elliptical at fat burn mode everyday in thirty minutes. The machine tell me so.
Machine calorie counts are grossly overstated and should never be used.I use cups now to be sure.
Buy a food scale and weigh everything in grams. Then log it in grams. You're wasting your time measuring anything but straight liquid in "cups" or "spoons".Being diabetic means I can't eat carbs. My husband can eat one cup rice but I cannot eat more than a tsp of rice. I have to fill in with carrots and cucumbers. Plus I get tired. Six months on elliptical and my progress is only thirty mins on light mode.I agree the amount of calories in a tsp of oil and nuts are shocking. The only month I lost weight was when I quit non veg including eggs completely. For a month only though.i realized chicken was very high in cals. So it's just fish and egg whites for me.
But you are right! Portions are shocking.
I started to type out a long response to all of this, but I'm convinced I would be wasting my time. You have a way that you are determined to do things, regardless of what the science says. You have an answer, an argument, and an excuse ready for every person in this thread who has tried to help you so far. Until you get past that, you will not progress. Maybe in a few years you'll be ready for an actual change.
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Being diabetic means I can't eat carbs. My husband can eat one cup rice but I cannot eat more than a tsp of rice. I have to fill in with carrots and cucumbers. Plus I get tired. Six months on elliptical and my progress is only thirty mins on light mode.Dont see how being diabetic is relevant. If it was, then you wouldnt have lost any weight....
Ok without trying to sound rude, my question still stands. How does being diabetic mean you cant lose weight? The fact that you cant have carbs seems irrelevant to me and would suggest that you are just making up a lot of calories consuming fat, for instance.0 -
minideem, i think for someone like you counting calories is essential.
Fat and protein only gave you a pot belly because you were eating too many of them. You can't eat to your hearts content and lose weight. No one can.
No one can really afford to snack much on nuts. I've been doing it lately and boy am i going to pay for it. Nuts are for use in small quantities only. So they are best as a garnish or just a little bit for extra flavour.
So chicken has a lot of calories but we all need a certain amount of protein every day so you can't stop eating protein though you can choose different types of protein and you can and should adjust your portion size accordingly.
It does sound like you just want to eat a lot of food all the time. But you can't lose weight by eating a lot of food unless its only vegetables.
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Welcome! You might want to check out the groups here. I believe there is one or more for people who are insulin resistant or have diabetes, and you would find great advice there. Your doctor also should be able to help you with some dietary guidance or a referral to a nutritionist.0
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Patttience wrote: »minideem, i think for someone like you counting calories is essential.
Fat and protein only gave you a pot belly because you were eating too many of them. You can't eat to your hearts content and lose weight. No one can.
No one can really afford to snack much on nuts. I've been doing it lately and boy am i going to pay for it. Nuts are for use in small quantities only. So they are best as a garnish or just a little bit for extra flavour.
So chicken has a lot of calories but we all need a certain amount of protein every day so you can't stop eating protein though you can choose different types of protein and you can and should adjust your portion size accordingly.
It does sound like you just want to eat a lot of food all the time. But you can't lose weight by eating a lot of food unless its only vegetables.
Thank you, I got that too the moment I started logging the calories. I was eating the curries alone.
And I have some good news from me, looks like I did loose some lbs in last ten days. Since I upped the exercise and started using measuring cups.
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Being diabetic means I can't eat carbs. My husband can eat one cup rice but I cannot eat more than a tsp of rice. I have to fill in with carrots and cucumbers. Plus I get tired. Six months on elliptical and my progress is only thirty mins on light mode.Dont see how being diabetic is relevant. If it was, then you wouldnt have lost any weight....
Ok without trying to sound rude, my question still stands. How does being diabetic mean you cant lose weight? The fact that you cant have carbs seems irrelevant to me and would suggest that you are just making up a lot of calories consuming fat, for instance.
Thank you, and you are not rude at all. I got that point you are trying to make here the moment I started logging the calories. I was eating the curries alone. Since I just cannot eat the accompanying rice or wheat bread.
And I have some good news from me, looks like I did loose some lbs in last ten days. Since I upped the exercise and started using measuring cups.
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I started to type out a long response to all of this, but I'm convinced I would be wasting my time. You have a way that you are determined to do things, regardless of what the science says. You have an answer, an argument, and an excuse ready for every person in this thread who has tried to help you so far. Until you get past that, you will not progress. Maybe in a few years you'll be ready for an actual change.
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I also refer to the app for calories burnt. You are not wasting your time, please type in your response.
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Buy a scale. You can get one for about $20.00.
Eat lots of veggies: broccoli, swiss chard, kale, spinach, romaine, cabbage, mushrooms, asparagus, avocados, okra, cauliflower, bell peppers, snow peas, eggplant, zucchini, yellow squash, winter squash, brussels sprouts.
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/28/6/1526.full.pdf&embedded=true
When you have very good control of your blood sugar (A1c), the weight loss will get easier. Be patient.0 -
Buy a scale. You can get one for about $20.00.
Eat lots of veggies: broccoli, swiss chard, kale, spinach, romaine, cabbage, mushrooms, asparagus, avocados, okra, cauliflower, bell peppers, snow peas, eggplant, zucchini, yellow squash, winter squash, brussels sprouts.
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/28/6/1526.full.pdf&embedded=true
When you have very good control of your blood sugar (A1c), the weight loss will get easier. Be patient.
Thanks a ton! This is the point I agree on. For diabetic blood sugar control is best way to loose weight.
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I just want to know what being a mom has to do with any of this.-3
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SherryTeach wrote: »I just want to know what being a mom has to do with any of this.
The same thing that being diabetic has to do with it - nothing.-3 -
SherryTeach wrote: »I just want to know what being a mom has to do with any of this.
The same thing that being diabetic has to do with it - nothing.
You are not concerned. You are just rude person who cannot think from other persons constraints. Mind your own buisness as far as my posts are concerned.
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Weight loss comes down to calories in<calories out. If you aren't losing, you're eating more than you think, regardless of any health issues. How do you measure your food: food scale, measuring cups, eyeballing portions? How do you determine your burns on the elliptical? Do you eat back all your exercise calories?
I burn 247 on elliptical at fat burn mode everyday in thirty minutes. The machine tell me so. I use cups now to be sure. I was guessing till now. It's shocking! Oil just one tsp is 37 calories? I realized oil plus nuts were killing me. Since I am diabetic and like to snack on low carbs, nuts came as easy tasty option.
But I have been doing this two months and no change in weight.
This is where your problem is
1) cut machine / MFP exercise rates in half - do not eat them all, both over-estimate
2) do not measure food in cups - weigh it on a digital scale
Weight is lost in the kitchen get your calories in right and the weight will drop off0 -
I am diabetic as well and had my first apt with the nutritionist last week. She was fine with me eating some carbs and said there is no reason to cut them out of my daily diet. I have to keep my starch/carb portion to nothing more than a 1/4 of my plate though and I can't use instants (IE - minute rice causes my blood sugar to spike). It can be tough to figure out though since each diabetic reacts differently to different foods. Do you have access to a nutritionist/dietician? They may be able to better advise you.0
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romachel1978 wrote: »I am diabetic as well and had my first apt with the nutritionist last week. She was fine with me eating some carbs and said there is no reason to cut them out of my daily diet. I have to keep my starch/carb portion to nothing more than a 1/4 of my plate though and I can't use instants (IE - minute rice causes my blood sugar to spike). It can be tough to figure out though since each diabetic reacts differently to different foods. Do you have access to a nutritionist/dietician? They may be able to better advise you.
If each diabetic reacts differently to different foods, what would be the point of going to a nutritionist/dietician? This makes it sound like one would have just as much luck/sucess with a journal and a dartboard poster of different foods to omit at random.
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After my bloodwork came back a little high on the sugar levels, I really wanted to get something useful out of this thread but so far I'm confused about belly shine, and distracted with fillups by cucumbers, also overly focused on the rationing of nuts. Yeah, I'm screwed.0
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This concludes my presence in this confusing thread. JSD.0
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The nutritionist that I saw had lots of good tips on what foods to pair together to keep sugars from spiking. Lots of good information as well on times of the day to eat and how often. The importance of not skipping meals.. Yes, everyones body is different and no meal plan is going to work exactly the same. That doesn't mean it's not worth getting advice from a professional who knows a bit more behind the science. They can look over a food journal and make better tweaks than we could ever suggest.
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Using measuring cups is better than estimating, but you really should use a food scale instead. The video below explains why (the music is kind of annoying, you can watch it on mute):
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As someone who has struggled with staying out of the diabetic range as well as acid reflux issues, I can say a nutritionist has been and is currently a huge help to me - I can't make time to get to the nutritionist so we do skype sessions after my kids (yep I have kids too) have gone to bed - nutritionists can really help customize a plan or tips for/that are right for you. For me I look to combining protein and fiber and staying away from citric fruits, having healthy snacks and following the 80-20 rule to allow for some indulgence combined with a mix of cardio and moderate strength training.
I also have to believe that even if you are not losing all the time that with consistent exercise your clothes are fitting better - I think the waist line will come but these things don't happen overnight. I am guessing that even some mild strength training will help as well.
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FWIW, this diabetic mom has lost 55+lbs (from 232 to 176), lowered her A1C from 7+ to 5.3 over 18months with walking and eating less. I didn't cut ANYTHING out of my diet and still have my 2-3 daily cups of coffee with 2tps real sugar, 1 tbsp flavored creamer. Still eat ice cream, chocolate, pasta, rice, potatoes, bread, cake, pumpkin pie.
OH, and "eating more fat and protein" didn't give you "a solid pot belly." A surplus of calories did.0 -
I agree the amount of calories in a tsp of oil and nuts are shocking. The only month I lost weight was when I quit non veg including eggs completely. For a month only though.i realized chicken was very high in cals. So it's just fish and egg whites for me.
But you are right! Portions are shocking.
WHAT! 6oz roasted chicken breast = 281cals, 53g protein, 6g fat, 0 carbs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
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