Recovering from a premenstrual eating fest
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Treeinthewoods wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »Thanks to you all who have posted saying how shocked you are and how brilliant you are with your diet. Well done. I am happy for you- but your posts aren't helpful they are patronising and demoralising. I already feel a muppet about it- I know it's a lot!
not one person has posted without sympathy or advice
Ah maybe I'm overreacting. I thought some answers were a bit sarcastic but maybe it's my hormones affecting my brain!
Thank you! I felt a little attacked but I was like, maybe the hormones are still in effect. Just saying, 5000 is a lot and it seems like you may be over estimating that anyway, unless you're logging and weighing it all. The poster who suggested leaving calories left over for dessert, great idea.
Also, sometimes I can easily have 400 calories left over. There's a brand of frozen yogurt called Stonyfield. Their entire pint of chocolate is 400 calories. I eat a whole one like every two weeks. So satisfying to be able to EAT THE WHOLE THING. nom.
I'm sorry. I'm a complete witch at the moment. I did take some posts the wrong way, it was unfair, and sometimes you just have to say it as it is! I don't mean to make you feel attacked. OOOhhh I will have to try this Stonyfield it has lit up my dopamine receptors already. Again, apologies.
lol you don't have to apologize. I am a murderous wench when I have my period.
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sheepotato wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »sheepotato wrote: »Have you tried taking an iron supplement or getting checked for some other vitamin deficiency? I can't see a way to overcome so many calories in a week and still be on track, so maybe you can find some underlying reason for such a high calorie spike.
Ditto on keeping up with exercise, it's hard to feel like going but it really helps with the cramps.
Hey thank you for your post. Actually I am anaemic, can I blame this?! I don't think that's helping. Thank you for suggesting that though as I hadn't thought it may be affecting things. I thought anaemia is "meant to" curb the appetite. Thanks for mentioning though (she types as she sips her iron supplement :-))
Yes that definitely has something to do with it, vitamin deficiencies can cause insane cravings it's your body's way of trying to get what it lacks. I found that having a big steak and dark leafy greens at the first sign of PMS cravings really cut down on how much extra I ate. Hopefully being treated for anaemia will help you in the future.
Right, we are having steak tonight!0 -
I get that same feeling. What I have been trying to do is force myself to eat some low cal veggies before I am allowed to have a tasty snack. The other day I had two servings of frozen broccoli cauliflower and carrots, and then had the crackers I really wanted. I was pretty full from 100cals worth of veggies (2 cups) so I only ate a few crackers, rather than the whole box. It's hard to binge when you are full. I was at a fitness camp last year and they insisted that dessert be eaten immediately after dinner for the same reason. No saving it for a snack (and eating twice as much because you are hungry). I also try to eat vegetable soup before lunch and dinner (and whenever else I am peckish) on the days when I'm extra hungry. I make my own and it's about 35 calories for a cup.
I agree with the previous poster regarding dark chocolate. I go even darker, with 85% or 90%. It's not as tasty, but it satisfies the chocolate craving with a very small amount. The 85% squares from Lindt are 30 calories each and I don't think I have ever eaten more than two. In contrast, I could easily eat half a pound of chocolate fudge, lol.
I generally eat an additional 500-1000 calories a day for 3 or 4 days, but when my period starts, my appetite goes below normal so I am able to balance out about 1/2 of the extra calories eaten. The 1/2 to 1 pound monthly gain is just the price of sanity for me, lol. If I can lose 1lb a week on the other 3 weeks, I still come out ahead.
It's normal and very common to have increased appetite and carb cravings before your period, and for some women, during the first couple of days of it. Try to plan ahead for lots of extra veggies, water, and high fibre fruit, and don't beat yourself up if you can't stay under your calorie goal. If you can stay under 4000, that's a step in the right direction, then shoot for 3000, then 2500, etc. I tend to eat about 1500-1700 cals most days when I am dieting, 2300-2500 during PMS, and 1100-1300 during my period, and I'm perfectly ok with that. I'm only human, and I'm not going to torture myself for the sake of a few calories.
Oh, and protein bread. Way more filling, and it's still bread :-)
TLDR: Eat veggies. Dark chocolate. Relax.0 -
Treeinthewoods wrote: »
I think that's a big part of creating new habits. Logging means you can spot patterns and triggers etc (as you already have). Next month, could you hold off the binge for another day, or until the afternoon, or finish a day earlier? That kind of thing.
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Treeinthewoods wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »I really do know how you feel. I have been like this for 30 years, and I could eat 10.000 calories a day no problem. 5000 would have been a good day for me with PMS. I don't do this any more, as losing weight was more of a priority than feeding my ravenous hunger at that time in the cycle. I agree that pre-planning will help you a lot, plus eat at maintenance during those days. If you can get through each month not putting any weight on during those 4 or 5 days, you have cracked it. I have lost nearly 40lb this year despite the desperate PMS (which can actually get worse as you get older - mine has)
You will get there. When you feel the desperate urge to overeat, try and put your coat on and go for a walk. Exercise is great for PMS and losing weight is good for these sort of problems. I am so much better now than when I was obese, when I was effectively useless for one week out of four.
Thank you for posting, what a post, You got through it! My PMT was loads worse after stopping breastfeeding some two years ago. I haven't recovered! Do you think that losing weight has helped reduce your pmt too, or just your resolve?
40lbs - wow, you go!
My PMT is 90% better. I also got horrendous bloating, headaches, lack of concentration, and generally feeling dreadful. None of that now. Without going into details, the whole monthly nonsense is not the nightmare it used to be. My doc told me that oestrogen is stored in adipose tissue, and because I was fat, I had too way much of it.
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opalsqueak007 wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »I really do know how you feel. I have been like this for 30 years, and I could eat 10.000 calories a day no problem. 5000 would have been a good day for me with PMS. I don't do this any more, as losing weight was more of a priority than feeding my ravenous hunger at that time in the cycle. I agree that pre-planning will help you a lot, plus eat at maintenance during those days. If you can get through each month not putting any weight on during those 4 or 5 days, you have cracked it. I have lost nearly 40lb this year despite the desperate PMS (which can actually get worse as you get older - mine has)
You will get there. When you feel the desperate urge to overeat, try and put your coat on and go for a walk. Exercise is great for PMS and losing weight is good for these sort of problems. I am so much better now than when I was obese, when I was effectively useless for one week out of four.
Thank you for posting, what a post, You got through it! My PMT was loads worse after stopping breastfeeding some two years ago. I haven't recovered! Do you think that losing weight has helped reduce your pmt too, or just your resolve?
40lbs - wow, you go!
My PMT is 90% better. I also got horrendous bloating, headaches, lack of concentration, and generally feeling dreadful. None of that now. Without going into details, the whole monthly nonsense is not the nightmare it used to be. My doc told me that oestrogen is stored in adipose tissue, and because I was fat, I had too way much of it.
Well you've just given me something new to add to my list of why I want to get healthier. I did notice that my time of the month was worse when I was heavier but I just attributed it to getting older. Thank you!0 -
opalsqueak007 wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »I really do know how you feel. I have been like this for 30 years, and I could eat 10.000 calories a day no problem. 5000 would have been a good day for me with PMS. I don't do this any more, as losing weight was more of a priority than feeding my ravenous hunger at that time in the cycle. I agree that pre-planning will help you a lot, plus eat at maintenance during those days. If you can get through each month not putting any weight on during those 4 or 5 days, you have cracked it. I have lost nearly 40lb this year despite the desperate PMS (which can actually get worse as you get older - mine has)
You will get there. When you feel the desperate urge to overeat, try and put your coat on and go for a walk. Exercise is great for PMS and losing weight is good for these sort of problems. I am so much better now than when I was obese, when I was effectively useless for one week out of four.
Thank you for posting, what a post, You got through it! My PMT was loads worse after stopping breastfeeding some two years ago. I haven't recovered! Do you think that losing weight has helped reduce your pmt too, or just your resolve?
40lbs - wow, you go!
My PMT is 90% better. I also got horrendous bloating, headaches, lack of concentration, and generally feeling dreadful. None of that now. Without going into details, the whole monthly nonsense is not the nightmare it used to be. My doc told me that oestrogen is stored in adipose tissue, and because I was fat, I had too way much of it.
I'm jealous. My body is used to being fat. Every time I go on a health kick my hormones get fvcked up. I have to be careful not to consider soy products part of my plan. Right now I don't have to worry about binging because I am too nauseous. However, if I didn't have a coping plan in place, that wouldn't stop me from binging this afternoon when the nausea wears off. Especially since I have been up since 2am with my first day insomnia.
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concordancia wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »I really do know how you feel. I have been like this for 30 years, and I could eat 10.000 calories a day no problem. 5000 would have been a good day for me with PMS. I don't do this any more, as losing weight was more of a priority than feeding my ravenous hunger at that time in the cycle. I agree that pre-planning will help you a lot, plus eat at maintenance during those days. If you can get through each month not putting any weight on during those 4 or 5 days, you have cracked it. I have lost nearly 40lb this year despite the desperate PMS (which can actually get worse as you get older - mine has)
You will get there. When you feel the desperate urge to overeat, try and put your coat on and go for a walk. Exercise is great for PMS and losing weight is good for these sort of problems. I am so much better now than when I was obese, when I was effectively useless for one week out of four.
Thank you for posting, what a post, You got through it! My PMT was loads worse after stopping breastfeeding some two years ago. I haven't recovered! Do you think that losing weight has helped reduce your pmt too, or just your resolve?
40lbs - wow, you go!
My PMT is 90% better. I also got horrendous bloating, headaches, lack of concentration, and generally feeling dreadful. None of that now. Without going into details, the whole monthly nonsense is not the nightmare it used to be. My doc told me that oestrogen is stored in adipose tissue, and because I was fat, I had too way much of it.
I'm jealous. My body is used to being fat. Every time I go on a health kick my hormones get fvcked up. I have to be careful not to consider soy products part of my plan. Right now I don't have to worry about binging because I am too nauseous. However, if I didn't have a coping plan in place, that wouldn't stop me from binging this afternoon when the nausea wears off. Especially since I have been up since 2am with my first day insomnia.
Thank you! I have been saying this about soy and people just give me a blank look. I used to love eating these vegan chicken salad sandwiches (I'm not vegan or veg), which was added soy to all the processed stuff I was eating. So much better once I stopped.
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sheepotato wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »I really do know how you feel. I have been like this for 30 years, and I could eat 10.000 calories a day no problem. 5000 would have been a good day for me with PMS. I don't do this any more, as losing weight was more of a priority than feeding my ravenous hunger at that time in the cycle. I agree that pre-planning will help you a lot, plus eat at maintenance during those days. If you can get through each month not putting any weight on during those 4 or 5 days, you have cracked it. I have lost nearly 40lb this year despite the desperate PMS (which can actually get worse as you get older - mine has)
You will get there. When you feel the desperate urge to overeat, try and put your coat on and go for a walk. Exercise is great for PMS and losing weight is good for these sort of problems. I am so much better now than when I was obese, when I was effectively useless for one week out of four.
Thank you for posting, what a post, You got through it! My PMT was loads worse after stopping breastfeeding some two years ago. I haven't recovered! Do you think that losing weight has helped reduce your pmt too, or just your resolve?
40lbs - wow, you go!
My PMT is 90% better. I also got horrendous bloating, headaches, lack of concentration, and generally feeling dreadful. None of that now. Without going into details, the whole monthly nonsense is not the nightmare it used to be. My doc told me that oestrogen is stored in adipose tissue, and because I was fat, I had too way much of it.
Well you've just given me something new to add to my list of why I want to get healthier. I did notice that my time of the month was worse when I was heavier but I just attributed it to getting older. Thank you!
Trust me - only 40lbs lost and honestly I wish I had known that I could have avoided all that hassle and pain by just getting some weight off. My doc said it is very common behaviour and the bigger you get, the worse it gets, because as your adipose tissue grows, so does the excess oestrogen and the resulting problems (some very unpleasant in women) . Think of the fat as toxic fat. That will make you think a bit before eating that unnecessary and un - nutritious Item! I look forward to seeing how you progress!
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arditarose wrote: »concordancia wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »I really do know how you feel. I have been like this for 30 years, and I could eat 10.000 calories a day no problem. 5000 would have been a good day for me with PMS. I don't do this any more, as losing weight was more of a priority than feeding my ravenous hunger at that time in the cycle. I agree that pre-planning will help you a lot, plus eat at maintenance during those days. If you can get through each month not putting any weight on during those 4 or 5 days, you have cracked it. I have lost nearly 40lb this year despite the desperate PMS (which can actually get worse as you get older - mine has)
You will get there. When you feel the desperate urge to overeat, try and put your coat on and go for a walk. Exercise is great for PMS and losing weight is good for these sort of problems. I am so much better now than when I was obese, when I was effectively useless for one week out of four.
Thank you for posting, what a post, You got through it! My PMT was loads worse after stopping breastfeeding some two years ago. I haven't recovered! Do you think that losing weight has helped reduce your pmt too, or just your resolve?
40lbs - wow, you go!
My PMT is 90% better. I also got horrendous bloating, headaches, lack of concentration, and generally feeling dreadful. None of that now. Without going into details, the whole monthly nonsense is not the nightmare it used to be. My doc told me that oestrogen is stored in adipose tissue, and because I was fat, I had too way much of it.
I'm jealous. My body is used to being fat. Every time I go on a health kick my hormones get fvcked up. I have to be careful not to consider soy products part of my plan. Right now I don't have to worry about binging because I am too nauseous. However, if I didn't have a coping plan in place, that wouldn't stop me from binging this afternoon when the nausea wears off. Especially since I have been up since 2am with my first day insomnia.
Thank you! I have been saying this about soy and people just give me a blank look. I used to love eating these vegan chicken salad sandwiches (I'm not vegan or veg), which was added soy to all the processed stuff I was eating. So much better once I stopped.
Having bled for as much as a month straight with double doses of BC, I was willing to try anything that might help. Soy just happens to have actual science to back it up and at the time I was using tofu, tempeh and a protein bar and frickin' herbal tea with soy lecithin in them.0 -
"I'm jealous. My body is used to being fat. Every time I go on a health kick my hormones get fvcked up. I have to be careful not to consider soy products part of my plan. Right now I don't have to worry about binging because I am too nauseous. However, if I didn't have a coping plan in place, that wouldn't stop me from binging this afternoon when the nausea wears off. Especially since I have been up since 2am with my first day insomnia."
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"Thank you! I have been saying this about soy and people just give me a blank look. I used to love eating these vegan chicken salad sandwiches (I'm not vegan or veg), which was added soy to all the processed stuff I was eating. So much better once I stopped."
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I am a vegetarian but I cut Soya out of my diet a year ago on professional advice. It is an oestrogen mimicker, which is the last thing you need if you are overweight or have issues with your cycle, or both.
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Treeinthewoods wrote: »sheepotato wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »sheepotato wrote: »Have you tried taking an iron supplement or getting checked for some other vitamin deficiency? I can't see a way to overcome so many calories in a week and still be on track, so maybe you can find some underlying reason for such a high calorie spike.
Ditto on keeping up with exercise, it's hard to feel like going but it really helps with the cramps.
Hey thank you for your post. Actually I am anaemic, can I blame this?! I don't think that's helping. Thank you for suggesting that though as I hadn't thought it may be affecting things. I thought anaemia is "meant to" curb the appetite. Thanks for mentioning though (she types as she sips her iron supplement :-))
Yes that definitely has something to do with it, vitamin deficiencies can cause insane cravings it's your body's way of trying to get what it lacks. I found that having a big steak and dark leafy greens at the first sign of PMS cravings really cut down on how much extra I ate. Hopefully being treated for anaemia will help you in the future.
Right, we are having steak tonight!
Always with orange juice to help absorption0 -
I get this too. Last week I was moody and miserable and kept busy. I don't really know what to say except drink lots of hot tea or stay out of the kitchen. I can push myself away from the table any other time of the month but it's so hard that week.0
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concordancia wrote: »arditarose wrote: »concordancia wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »Treeinthewoods wrote: »opalsqueak007 wrote: »I really do know how you feel. I have been like this for 30 years, and I could eat 10.000 calories a day no problem. 5000 would have been a good day for me with PMS. I don't do this any more, as losing weight was more of a priority than feeding my ravenous hunger at that time in the cycle. I agree that pre-planning will help you a lot, plus eat at maintenance during those days. If you can get through each month not putting any weight on during those 4 or 5 days, you have cracked it. I have lost nearly 40lb this year despite the desperate PMS (which can actually get worse as you get older - mine has)
You will get there. When you feel the desperate urge to overeat, try and put your coat on and go for a walk. Exercise is great for PMS and losing weight is good for these sort of problems. I am so much better now than when I was obese, when I was effectively useless for one week out of four.
Thank you for posting, what a post, You got through it! My PMT was loads worse after stopping breastfeeding some two years ago. I haven't recovered! Do you think that losing weight has helped reduce your pmt too, or just your resolve?
40lbs - wow, you go!
My PMT is 90% better. I also got horrendous bloating, headaches, lack of concentration, and generally feeling dreadful. None of that now. Without going into details, the whole monthly nonsense is not the nightmare it used to be. My doc told me that oestrogen is stored in adipose tissue, and because I was fat, I had too way much of it.
I'm jealous. My body is used to being fat. Every time I go on a health kick my hormones get fvcked up. I have to be careful not to consider soy products part of my plan. Right now I don't have to worry about binging because I am too nauseous. However, if I didn't have a coping plan in place, that wouldn't stop me from binging this afternoon when the nausea wears off. Especially since I have been up since 2am with my first day insomnia.
Thank you! I have been saying this about soy and people just give me a blank look. I used to love eating these vegan chicken salad sandwiches (I'm not vegan or veg), which was added soy to all the processed stuff I was eating. So much better once I stopped.
Having bled for as much as a month straight with double doses of BC, I was willing to try anything that might help. Soy just happens to have actual science to back it up and at the time I was using tofu, tempeh and a protein bar and frickin' herbal tea with soy lecithin in them.
Oh if only I had spoken to you lot before I tried the "cut out all dairy" and only drink soya for a month... needless to say my pmt was worse than ever. Of course I can't know for sure if the soya was the cause but I was so adamant that soya would help. I guess I thought as it mimicked oestrogen it would help, in the same way the pill helps some... but I was obviously simplifying (or making up!) the science. Goes to show placebo doesn't work either as I was so sure the soya would cure it and I was very strict with dairy avoidance.
Also I bled every day for three months with cerazette - probably the cause of the persistent anaemia.0 -
I so understand this! Definitely my issue as well. I'm not sure I get quite as high as 5K (more like 3500), but I will sit there and eat an entire BAG of chocolate when I otherwise rarely crave or want it. Also chips are a big one for me.
I can't say I've found a solution yet, but I do try and stick with pickles as a substitute for the chips. B/c what I'm really craving is salt/vinegar. But for the chocolate/sweets? I'll let you know when I find a replacement...b/c fruit does not work (i just eat the fruit and then an hour later I eat the chocolate).
Like others have said I just try to not let it deter me too much, I try to do my best the rest of the time. And I haven't been to the gym in a few months now, but prior to that I was doing my best to make myself go and work out during this time. It did seem to help the cravings a bit.0 -
I'm the same way as well!! But I only allow myself to do it once in that week and I'll have a packet of choc biscuits and usually I'm the same weight the next day (but not always). I've also taken to making low carb desserts which are in line with the diet I've been on for the last year and a half and that has helped a lot!!!
Try and find some alternatives to the high carb/refined sugars treats! Don't give up! This is not easy and you've acknowledged what you've done wrong which you can fix!0
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