bad knees....exercise substitute for squats and lunges

kersercar
kersercar Posts: 27 Member
edited November 9 in Fitness and Exercise
Hi,
Was wondering if anyone had suggestions to work out gluteus maximus muscle besides squats and lunges if knees are bad. Would like to work this area out but my knees don't always want to cooperate. Any suggestions would be appreciated
Thank-you for your time and happy holidays!

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  • BigGuy47
    BigGuy47 Posts: 1,768 Member
    Glute bridges
  • feralX
    feralX Posts: 334 Member
    Deadlifts will work your whole posterior chain including your glutes. Romanian deadlifts will more directly target the glutes and hamstrings. Good luck.
  • hill8570
    hill8570 Posts: 1,466 Member
    You've had some good suggestions above. Another thing to check is proper form on the squat (legs shoulder width apart, feet at ~30 degree angle, push knees out, break horizontal). The quarter- and half-squat crap you see done in most workout video settings puts ridiculous strain on your knees. I've got pretty crappy knees myself, and I was surprised how well I could do "real" barbell squats (after proper warmup) -- much easier than the too-fast bouncy-bouncy squats in most videos. Mehdi's Stronglifts site has some decent discussions of technique, although I got the most benefit from reading Rippetoe's "Starting Strength" book (only $10 in Kindle format) -- the diagrams and discussion of balance really clicked with me.

    Good luck to ya!
  • Slasher09
    Slasher09 Posts: 316 Member
    hill8570 wrote: »
    You've had some good suggestions above. Another thing to check is proper form on the squat (legs shoulder width apart, feet at ~30 degree angle, push knees out, break horizontal). The quarter- and half-squat crap you see done in most workout video settings puts ridiculous strain on your knees. I've got pretty crappy knees myself, and I was surprised how well I could do "real" barbell squats (after proper warmup) -- much easier than the too-fast bouncy-bouncy squats in most videos. Mehdi's Stronglifts site has some decent discussions of technique, although I got the most benefit from reading Rippetoe's "Starting Strength" book (only $10 in Kindle format) -- the diagrams and discussion of balance really clicked with me.

    Good luck to ya!

    OMG. I have been trying to figure out what is wrong with me for MONTHS because my knees/hips were killing from squats. I never once felt muscle burn doing squats...only joint pain. I did like 6 of the kind you mentioned...and ow haha. THANK YOU. (and I was doing the workout video type squats.)
  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    Yes, squats above parallel cause greater "shear" forces on your knees and will cause you a lot of pain. Additionally, if your glutes and hamstrings are under-developed they will not do what they're suppose to do in the squat and your quads will be overactive which will also cause you problems over time.
  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,069 Member
    hill8570 wrote: »
    You've had some good suggestions above. Another thing to check is proper form on the squat (legs shoulder width apart, feet at ~30 degree angle, push knees out, break horizontal). The quarter- and half-squat crap you see done in most workout video settings puts ridiculous strain on your knees. I've got pretty crappy knees myself, and I was surprised how well I could do "real" barbell squats (after proper warmup) -- much easier than the too-fast bouncy-bouncy squats in most videos. Mehdi's Stronglifts site has some decent discussions of technique, although I got the most benefit from reading Rippetoe's "Starting Strength" book (only $10 in Kindle format) -- the diagrams and discussion of balance really clicked with me.

    Good luck to ya!

    Agree with everything in this post.

    I had very dodgy knees before learning to squat properly (starting strength for me too).

    I'd highly recommend reading starting strength and if you're really wanting to concentrate on glutes - strong curves is a good book/programme with all manner of glute exercises :)
  • bluntlysally
    bluntlysally Posts: 150 Member
    i was in pt for my knees and i did squats and lunges (of course, not on day one). focus on proper form. a lot of knee issues originate from above (butt, hips).
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Squats and lunges are the core of my rehab work for my knee.
  • frankiedb
    frankiedb Posts: 277 Member
    Abductor and Adductor Machine
  • Serenstar75
    Serenstar75 Posts: 258 Member
    My knee is bad, but squats are what my PT consisted of in order to help strengthen the muscles that support my knees. I tore my ACL, didn't go through with surgery, have issues still and find that they are helping a bit even now, years later. But there are some exercises, even floor exercises, that can help by lifting your leg and squeezing your toosh.
  • aylajane
    aylajane Posts: 979 Member
    I have had terrible knees my whole life, to the point of a handicapped parking sticker for awhile. In the past year, my trainer "fixed" me so well I can do anything and its like they were never wrong - just an occasional twinge... what helped me (all together, not sure if individually it would be the same!):
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    1) barefoot shoes. I have flat feet and was always trying to get better arch support, etc. tried thousands of insoles, etc. Turns out, my knees like it au natural! I only wear barefoot shoes now...
    2) foam roller - on every part of your legs and back. IT band, quads, hammies, inner knee, lower back, etc.
    3) *Muscle balance* (the most important!) Muscles are all inter related - if you have a weak left calf, you will feel it in your right calf and hip etc because you are compensating.. the part that hurts is not the part that is the problem usually - its the result of overusing that muscle or joint to compensate for one not doing its job. Strengthen the weak guy and the others wont have to do double the work. With knees, if your quads are stronger than your hamstrings, your knees will pull off track. If your inner leg muscle is stronger than outer, etc.. My knees hurt because the muscles were pulling my kneecaps off center and rubbing them against bone. It took a few months, but he balanced all the muscles in my legs and back out so everything pulled correctly and none were compensating for others. I was also seeing a chiropractor for my back - turns out the muscle imbalance was causing my back pain as well - compensation again! They explain it much better, but the chiro agreed with the trainer, and I no longer have to go there at all!

    Not sure if that will help you, as "knee pain" could be anything. But if you have been to a 1000 drs like I have over the years with no real cause (no arthritis, physical abnormality, etc) it is worth exploring. I can now squat (correctly) 175 pounds and getting better. Only time I have any issues with my knee is when I wear regular shoes or let my knee turn inward while walking.
  • knightreader
    knightreader Posts: 813 Member
    some real useful info here.. thanks to everyone that posted.
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