When Do I Start Strength Training?
arykah3luvsya
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I am needing some advice about how to keep extra skin, while losing weight, at bay. Right now, I am just counting calories, per MFP, AND doing 30-40 mins of cardio on the elliptical and treadmill 4-6 times a week. Am I supposed to be strength training as well?? I have heard of people waiting until after they cut the weight and hit their plateau before they introduce strength training, but will that cause me to have an abundance of extra skin? Can someone with experience please give me advice as to when and how to introduce strength training, how to lose fat and maintain my muscle and how to steer away from extra skin????
If it helps, I'm 28 female, had 3 cesareans, 5'8" 260" and I am hourglass shaped.
If it helps, I'm 28 female, had 3 cesareans, 5'8" 260" and I am hourglass shaped.
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Now. 2-3x week, progessive loading, though you may find bodyweight exercise is where you need to start for now. Essential to minimizing muscle loss while in a deficit among other benefits.
eta: I am 5'8, started at 245 lbs 3 years ago and am down almost 95 pounds now. Strength training has always been part of my exercise plan.0 -
Right now. Stop reading this and go pick up some heavy things!0
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Basically, you can add in strength training whenever you want. It is great for maintaining lean muscle mass as you burn fat. I'm not sure what you mean about the extra skin? If you are in a calorie deficit, you will not bulk by strength training. You might have extra skin left over after you lose a lot of weight, but strength training will not cause you to "have an abundance of extra skin."0
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DancingMoosie wrote: »Basically, you can add in strength training whenever you want. It is great for maintaining lean muscle mass as you burn fat. I'm not sure what you mean about the extra skin? If you are in a calorie deficit, you will not bulk by strength training. You might have extra skin left over after you lose a lot of weight, but strength training will not cause you to "have an abundance of extra skin."
By extra skin, I just mean that I have heard not to introduce weights until you plateau from dieting and cardio alone; but I'm worried that if I don't start lifting, I will be left with extra, intoned skin. I am, however, afraid of bulking. Is it better to use body weight resistance and just do you more reps, rather than progressive weight lifting? I'm really just wanting to tone and not gain alot of mass...0 -
arykah3luvsya wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »Basically, you can add in strength training whenever you want. It is great for maintaining lean muscle mass as you burn fat. I'm not sure what you mean about the extra skin? If you are in a calorie deficit, you will not bulk by strength training. You might have extra skin left over after you lose a lot of weight, but strength training will not cause you to "have an abundance of extra skin."
By extra skin, I just mean that I have heard not to introduce weights until you plateau from dieting and cardio alone; but I'm worried that if I don't start lifting, I will be left with extra, intoned skin. I am, however, afraid of bulking. Is it better to use body weight resistance and just do you more reps, rather than progressive weight lifting? I'm really just wanting to tone and not gain alot of mass...
You won't gain mass or get bulky on a deficit.
All the weight training will do is protect your muscles from falling victim during your weight loss. You lose muscle and fat when eating at a deficit, and weight training reduces the amount of muscle you lose and helps you burn more calories.
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It is incorrect to say that one should not introduce weights until you plateau during dieting. You can lift weights at any point-while losing, gaining, or maintaining.
IDK what intoned skin is. I thought "intone" meant something about the pitch of the voice? If you lose a lot of weight, you will probably have extra skin left over. That's just the way it is. Strength training can not help much with that. Lifting weights strengthens your muscles, not your skin. I lost 40lbs, went from a size 10 to size 0, and my skin is not as tight as I would like. I lift weights. My muscles are strong, I have definition. But, there's still the skin issue.
The type of resistance training you do is up to you. Body weight exercises/more reps with light weights is just a different type of training than progressive weight lifting. Hypertrophy range (muscle growth or "bulking") is considered to be somewhere between 6-12 reps with heavy/challenging weight. More than that is considered endurance, less would be mostly for strength. Also, don't think just because you have 4 reps you won't grow at all, just you will grow less than 6 or 8 reps, etc etc. This isn't exact, it has to do with your fitness level, intensity, and percentage of 1 rep max, as well as your diet. You need to be in a caloric surplus to properly "bulk". Calorie deficit + strength training= more muscle retention while losing weight. Calorie deficit only (no strength training)=lose fat and muscle.0 -
In my opinion, you should do both cardio and strength training regularly. How much you do of one or the other is completely up to the individual. Personally, I do cardio 5 times a week and strength training 3-4 times a week. That works for me. For some that's too much cardio. You have to tailor your workout plan to suit your needs.
If you don't want to lift heavy or do not have funds to go to a gym so you can lift heavy, look into a bodyweight training program. I personally, chose to go the bodyweight training route b/c I don't like going to the gym. And I also don't like waiting. And from time to time you'll have to wait for equipment before you get to use it.
Bodyweight training will take longer than lifting heavy, but you will see results with both. You can also do both bodyweight training and heavy lifting. It just comes down to preference.
But I recommend starting strength training sooner than later.0 -
I am starting the plan in The New Rules of Lifting for Women book this month. There is a forum for it on MFP, too.0
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These are two different things. You can start with the weights any time you like. No reason to put put it off.
Loose skin - you're young. There's a good shot it'll just bounce back. Aside from losing slowly, there isn't much you can do about it except eat healthy and pray really hard.0 -
arykah3luvsya wrote: »I am needing some advice about how to keep extra skin, while losing weight, at bay. Right now, I am just counting calories, per MFP, AND doing 30-40 mins of cardio on the elliptical and treadmill 4-6 times a week. Am I supposed to be strength training as well?? I have heard of people waiting until after they cut the weight and hit their plateau before they introduce strength training, but will that cause me to have an abundance of extra skin? Can someone with experience please give me advice as to when and how to introduce strength training, how to lose fat and maintain my muscle and how to steer away from extra skin????
If it helps, I'm 28 female, had 3 cesareans, 5'8" 260" and I am hourglass shaped.
Right from the start ...read strong curves or new rules of lifting for women for guidance or follow a programme
Also 5'8, 2 sections and hourglass..but much older than you...it works (although skin is down to giving it time, genetics and luck)0 -
Yes, in general you should incorporate both strength and cardio in your work out routine. Building and maintaining muscle helps you burn calories even when you are at rest. About 2-3 times a week you should consider strength training, and alternate with cardio. If you have access to a personal trainer it may be worth sitting down with them to set up a work out routine to suite your goals.0
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Thanks everyone!0
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Yesterday.0
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I_Will_End_You wrote: »Yesterday.
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Agreed... with many above. Start doing some weights to a basic starting program. The muscles used after weight sessions will continue to "feed" on residual body reserve throughout the day and night. Weight lifting is more essential than cardio for losing weight but the cardio is needed for circulation and respiratory health.0
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arykah3luvsya wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »Basically, you can add in strength training whenever you want. It is great for maintaining lean muscle mass as you burn fat. I'm not sure what you mean about the extra skin? If you are in a calorie deficit, you will not bulk by strength training. You might have extra skin left over after you lose a lot of weight, but strength training will not cause you to "have an abundance of extra skin."
By extra skin, I just mean that I have heard not to introduce weights until you plateau from dieting and cardio alone; but I'm worried that if I don't start lifting, I will be left with extra, intoned skin. I am, however, afraid of bulking. Is it better to use body weight resistance and just do you more reps, rather than progressive weight lifting? I'm really just wanting to tone and not gain alot of mass...
You will not 'bulk' if you are eating at a deficit. What you will do is lose both fat and muscle. Lifting heavy will maintain at least some of your muscle through your weigh loss.0 -
If you're looking for somewhere to start and you don't have a gym membership (or equipment at home), you can try the "you are your own gym" program. It's body weight exercises and great for beginners who haven't done much strength training before.
There's an app that goes with the program called "bodyweight training" by the author of the book. It walks you through the program, tells you exactly what to do, and shows videos of the movements. It's a paid app ($2.99, i think), but well worth it.
The icon looks like this:
I know heavy lifting is great for you, but it can be intimidating to beginners. This is a really great starting out program.0 -
Weight training is good for you at every stage. Others have summarised it very well - weight training will simply help you preserve as much lean mass as possible while you diet and lose weight.0
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Loads of great advice above. Never too early to begin weight training and lifting something heavy will not turn your body into some Schwarzenegger clone. Weight lifting is a fantastic complement to anaerobic activity and you will see gains in both activities if you engage in both. I like to start with ~15 mins of aerobic to get my heart rate up and then run through whatever target muscle group o' the day.0
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Begin working out with weights now. Loose skin is unfortunately unrelated to your muscle tone. It takes a long time to catch up. My doctor told me to be very patient because it could be like 2 years. The weights will make you stronger and healthier, and prevent you from losing so much muscle while you lose the fat.0
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Echo'ing others that you should not wait to start some kind of resistance training. It mitigates the risk of losing LBM while dieting. You will not get 'bulky' - its very hard to gain an appreciable amount of muscle, especially for women, unless you take steriods and/or testosterone (and even then, you need to work at it).
There are a bunch of other benefits from resistance training, including better bone density and gaining strength.
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Thanks everyone!!!0
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Yep...start yesterday.0
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This very instant! You won't regret it!0
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