Weight Watchers to MFP. Lots of points left.
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WW takes the "work" out of calorie counting for you. I think it's a good program, I was just too cheap to keep it up. I think "free" fruit is a big mistake, though.
Nope, because you still have to count the points. If I go to a restaurant I still have to look up the points, the same as looking up the calories (and their Scanner,app,and website SUCKS!!!).
The WW program gave me Way more calories then MFP..like 900 more, but WW is a business why would they want me losing 2lbs a week? Their program is set up to lose .5-2lbs a week but my results were always closer to the .5,then 2lbs a week.
What I do like about WW is the meetings, I really enjoyed that time to just discuss dieting techniques with others, my man and friends sometimes get tired of me talking about weight loss, so its a place where people understand the struggle.
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Currently with points plus - 1 point is 38 calories. WW "rounds" so 100 grams of something might be 2 points, but 200 grams in one sitting might be 5 points. At the minimum, which is where I started (age, gender(, 26 points only comes to 988 calories - way under what a person needs to live. So having fruits and most vegetables count as zero makes more sense. In addition to "daily" points there are "weekly" points amounting to an additional 1800 calories to use as one wishes.
If you've been double counting you know that 1 point isn't 38 calories. It varies a lot, based on macros. If it's roughly 38 or 40 on average, you're at a base of about 1000 calories a day PLUS your 7*40 weekly points per day (if spread evenly) = 1280, PLUS unlimited fruit/veg of 300-400 more say = 1600ish, PLUS activity points, so maybe 1800 calories a day for many women. It's pretty dang generous. And that's the minimum, it's much more for men and larger women.
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I love MFP and it will always be my go to site. It is much more user friendly than WW or any other program I have used. However, I am planning to return to WW next week because I need that extra push to get me motivated and on track. Folks on here are wonderful, but I still need that accountability of weighing in each week, listening to a motivational speaker, and being around people that are in the same boat. Sometimes you just need that face to face time. Once I feel stronger, I won't need it, but I sure do right now. Good luck.0
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I am (was) a lifetime member of WW way back in the day where there weren't any points. I remember making an "egg salad" sandwhich using cottage cheese and mustard... lol. That was waaaaay back in time. Anyway, just wanted to comment on the "zero" points for fruits... Before MFP, I tried WW online and was excited about being able to eat fruits and not have them count as anything. I LOVE my fruits! Unfortunately, zero points does not calculate into zero calories. I found out on MFP why I wasn't losing weight like I thought I should. Using the macros, my fruit intake was throwing me way over the sugars limit. I have since switched out sugars for fiber... and have cut my fruit intake down to an apple/maybe 2/ a day and fill in the rest with veggies. Noticed a BIG difference almost immediately.0
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I don't like weight watchers. I've been on and off them multiple times, and the last time I did lose 50 pounds (and it was their newest way of counting points). What I didn't like was the fact that they seem to try to drill it into your head about having accountability and that you absolutely must track every single bite that goes into your mouth. I always felt horrible whenever I had a bad day and overall it ended with me jumping off the bandwagon, gaining all my weight back, and then some. I think it's a good system if you've only got like 20-30 pounds to lose, but not more than that. It doesn't really have much to help people who have true disordered eating problems.0
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What I like about Weight Watchers over MFP is the in person weigh-in's and meetings. I feel more accountable to something that is in person... right now I am tracking on both sites because I also love MFP!0
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My advice would be to start counting your fruits and Vegetables on WW. The Old system
that I did in 2003 you had to count your fruit & vegetables because they had points.It never made sense to me that the fruits & vegetables had no points. I know that not all
of them are 0 only certain ones.0 -
I have going to WW since January. Unlike others, I found the meetings helpful for the first couple of weeks. Then it became a burden to go and always listen to the individuals who took control of the meeting. Just saying, it's not therapy. Did not like that. I lost for many weeks and then just stopped. I work out a lot. Their advice, eat more dairy. So I decided to try sparkpeople and found out I was eating WAY too little calories, ahem...why I stopped losing. SP is a bit too time consuming for me. So did some research which brings me back here to MFP. I am paid for another month of WW...but I choose to pass. Am excited to continue my journey here. Only 20 lbs to go. If I feel like I need to weigh in with someone, I will bring my scale out...lol. Anyway, happy to be here. And this certainly makes sense for me.0
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I just made the switch to MFP from WW recently after about a month of double logging. I also had a fair amount of points left on the table after I reached my MFP targets, and I think that can be chalked up to the percentage of 'free' fruits and vegetables they have built into the WW program for you to eat per day.
Because the WW points are based on the macros and not the calories, it might also be due to what you're eating to reach your calorie totals. If your meal choices are lower in carbs and higher in protein, that might skew the numbers your getting too.
I admit I liked the WW program, and felt successful on it, but I'm just as successful with the MFP program, and it costs less, so here I reside.0 -
I have, and will never, do WW. I've known many, many people who have and either they (1) lose weight then gain it back plus some when they quit or (2) continue to yoyo and quit and gain more weight. I prefer to count calories and exercise, and MFP has been a great inspiration for me. Programs like WW, etc., are making a small fortune on people trying to lose weight, just as Nicorette, etc., are making a small fortune on people trying to quit smoking. I just can't buy into any of it. When I quit smoking, I did it cold turkey - one miserable day, one partially miserable day, and one day of feeling like a ton of weight was lifted from my shoulders. That's a lot easier than losing weight accumulated over 11 years! But I'm doing it, and am NOT stopping until I reach my goal. CICO rules, and MFP helps me tremendously in that respect.0
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I did WW and liked it at the time. Lost a lot of weight. I gained it back because I stopped paying attention to what I ate. Not ww's fault. I didn't like the meetings...and now in hindsight in trying to eat all low points foods all the time..I was on the road to being under nourished for certain nutrients. WW points at the time took into consideration only calories fat and fiber.0
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Just saying, WW and MFP are like apples versus oranges. I would stay with one or the other (I prefer MFP). Either way.....you are doing great!0
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