Gain weight or lose weight?

stephaniejmnz
stephaniejmnz Posts: 30 Member
edited November 10 in Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
Alright so I'm 5'4 and I weigh 112 lbs (upon waking up) I used to be around 122 but had a lot of fat on me. I started working out a few months ago and have lost weight, but somehow my stomach fat has not budged. I was told to do strength training (I've started strong lifts) but was also told to eat at a small deficit to lose some fat. I can't afford to lose anymore weight as I am already on the low side. What should I do in terms of nutrition? Eat at a surplus or deficits? Currently I am only doing stronglifts and don't do cardio

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  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    If you don't want to lose any more weight you can either eat at maintenance and work on body recomposition or eat at a surplus and focus on muscle gaining. Recomposition is very slow; it could take years. Eating at a surplus can be hard for people mentally because you will gain both muscle and fat. The theory is you bulk for a period of time (usually several months if not longer), and then cut (eat at a deficit) to lose the fat you gained during the bulk. Then you repeat the process until you have the body you like.

    I have never done either (I still have a lot of weight to lose), but it's going to be personal preference for what you want to do. From what I've seen, people can get frustrated doing either method - recomp takes to long and you don't see results, bulking you give up early because you're afraid of getting fat.

    Which ever method you do, definitely keep up the lifting; strong lifts is a great beginner program.
  • holly55555
    holly55555 Posts: 306 Member
    I have this same issue. It's my understanding that you just need to change WHAT you're eating. Up your protein and lift heavy. Your weight on a scale might go up, but your waist should get smaller and more tucked in. You should still eat at a deficit because you are still losing FAT. Just focus more on your fat percentage than the scale number.
  • stephaniejmnz
    stephaniejmnz Posts: 30 Member
    holly55555 wrote: »
    I have this same issue. It's my understanding that you just need to change WHAT you're eating. Up your protein and lift heavy. Your weight on a scale might go up, but your waist should get smaller and more tucked in. You should still eat at a deficit because you are still losing FAT. Just focus more on your fat percentage than the scale number.

    I just got scared when I saw my weight because I'm trying to GAIN, you know? But because I have that fat on my stomach I don't know which way to go. I'm attempting to eat healthier and I'm logging my calories, but I have trouble just figuring out what to eat and if I should eat more or less
  • stephaniejmnz
    stephaniejmnz Posts: 30 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    If you don't want to lose any more weight you can either eat at maintenance and work on body recomposition or eat at a surplus and focus on muscle gaining. Recomposition is very slow; it could take years. Eating at a surplus can be hard for people mentally because you will gain both muscle and fat. The theory is you bulk for a period of time (usually several months if not longer), and then cut (eat at a deficit) to lose the fat you gained during the bulk. Then you repeat the process until you have the body you like.

    I have never done either (I still have a lot of weight to lose), but it's going to be personal preference for what you want to do. From what I've seen, people can get frustrated doing either method - recomp takes to long and you don't see results, bulking you give up early because you're afraid of getting fat.

    Which ever method you do, definitely keep up the lifting; strong lifts is a great beginner program.

    So those are my only options? Either or? I can't just change my diet to cut out all the fast food and just general "bad" foods and lift? I know I sound naive I just wish there was a way I didn't have to bulk then cut because it seems like so many people just focus on healthy eating and lifting and somehow that works on them
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  • stephaniejmnz
    stephaniejmnz Posts: 30 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    stephaniejmnz wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    If you don't want to lose any more weight you can either eat at maintenance and work on body recomposition or eat at a surplus and focus on muscle gaining. Recomposition is very slow; it could take years. Eating at a surplus can be hard for people mentally because you will gain both muscle and fat. The theory is you bulk for a period of time (usually several months if not longer), and then cut (eat at a deficit) to lose the fat you gained during the bulk. Then you repeat the process until you have the body you like.

    I have never done either (I still have a lot of weight to lose), but it's going to be personal preference for what you want to do. From what I've seen, people can get frustrated doing either method - recomp takes to long and you don't see results, bulking you give up early because you're afraid of getting fat.

    Which ever method you do, definitely keep up the lifting; strong lifts is a great beginner program.

    So those are my only options? Either or? I can't just change my diet to cut out all the fast food and just general "bad" foods and lift? I know I sound naive I just wish there was a way I didn't have to bulk then cut because it seems like so many people just focus on healthy eating and lifting and somehow that works on them
    Pretty much those are your option. And I agree with Auddii.

    Have you ever suffered ffrom any ED issues?

    No not at all. I've never had any issues like that, I'm just new to this nutrition stuff and needed some guidance and was hoping to find a different answer. I have no problem gaining weight, I just have trouble figuring out how to eat enough food each day and what kinds of food. Nutrition has just always been my biggest set back
  • Jimmyftw94
    Jimmyftw94 Posts: 75 Member
    I have the same issue. I'm 5'7 and 153 lb, 20 year old male. I cannot seem to reduce my belly fat. I do push-ups and pull-ups for exercise. The only weight lifting I do is a pair of dumbbell for curl.
  • stephaniejmnz
    stephaniejmnz Posts: 30 Member
    Jimmyftw94 wrote: »
    I have the same issue. I'm 5'7 and 153 lb, 20 year old male. I cannot seem to reduce my belly fat. I do push-ups and pull-ups for exercise. The only weight lifting I do is a pair of dumbbell for curl.

    from all I've read and have been advised, you need to lift a lot more than just that. I've had multiple people tell me about the Strong Lifts program, you should check it out! It focuses on 6 compound exercises and helps you increase strength, and if you get your nutrition in check, I'm sure you'd be able to lose some fat. I'm currently at the "get nutrition in check" phase
  • Jimmyftw94
    Jimmyftw94 Posts: 75 Member
    stephaniejmnz wrote: »
    Jimmyftw94 wrote: »
    I have the same issue. I'm 5'7 and 153 lb, 20 year old male. I cannot seem to reduce my belly fat. I do push-ups and pull-ups for exercise. The only weight lifting I do is a pair of dumbbell for curl.

    from all I've read and have been advised, you need to lift a lot more than just that. I've had multiple people tell me about the Strong Lifts program, you should check it out! It focuses on 6 compound exercises and helps you increase strength, and if you get your nutrition in check, I'm sure you'd be able to lose some fat. I'm currently at the "get nutrition in check" phase

    For nutrition I'm eating pretty clean, steam broccoli, tofu, roast chicken, etc and I like the food too. I don't believe in gym membership so I mostly concentrate on body weight exercise like pull ups.
  • stephaniejmnz
    stephaniejmnz Posts: 30 Member
    Jimmyftw94 wrote: »
    stephaniejmnz wrote: »
    Jimmyftw94 wrote: »
    I have the same issue. I'm 5'7 and 153 lb, 20 year old male. I cannot seem to reduce my belly fat. I do push-ups and pull-ups for exercise. The only weight lifting I do is a pair of dumbbell for curl.

    from all I've read and have been advised, you need to lift a lot more than just that. I've had multiple people tell me about the Strong Lifts program, you should check it out! It focuses on 6 compound exercises and helps you increase strength, and if you get your nutrition in check, I'm sure you'd be able to lose some fat. I'm currently at the "get nutrition in check" phase

    For nutrition I'm eating pretty clean, steam broccoli, tofu, roast chicken, etc and I like the food too. I don't believe in gym membership so I mostly concentrate on body weight exercise like pull ups.

    Maybe try mixing it up? Your workouts, I mean. Because your body can only do so many before it gets used to your workouts
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  • stephaniejmnz
    stephaniejmnz Posts: 30 Member
    So in your opinions, would I be better off eating at a surplus while maintaining my workout regiment (strong lifts) or eat at a slight deficit? I know the goal of strong lifts is to get stronger, so Whats the best way to go about it?
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  • MagnumBurrito
    MagnumBurrito Posts: 1,070 Member
    I'd eat at maintenance while getting your lifts up for a month or two. Then do a couple hundred calorie bulk to put some real muscle on. Cut in late spring for the summer.

    A pic would really help to see where you're at though.
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  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    billieljaime wrote: »
    I was always taught when training to pick one good routine as well and stick to it. When it gets to boring and easy, add more weight.

    I shift calories on lifting days because I am plant based and for other reasons. It is just what I do, not what she has to do.

    And there is a reason to consume more protein on weight lifting days and it has little to do in itself with growth.

    Here is what it has to do with mostly..... muscular synapses require energy in the form of protein to move (contract). That is why it is advises you rest at least 30 seconds between sets it is because you max out the stores of synapses but they replenish quickly.

    So replenishing your protein stores after a lifting session has over time been misconstrued into muscle growth, its not.

    Muscle GROWTH comes with the natural healing process that comes with the tear/and repair process after a lifting session and it occurs slowly over time.

    Now I probably did not say all that in text book terminology, but I did read it all in my Fitness/Nutrition textbooks.

    I tried to break it down to basics, I am sure someone will come behind me and tell me how wrong I am.

    I have popcorn waiting.

    A good routine should have progression defined as part of the program, not just "whenever it gets easy". When I'm progressing and upping weights, my lifts are never easy. It doesn't stop me from slapping on another 5lbs the next time to see if I can move the bar. I usually surprise myself.

    OP, just "cleaning up" your diet won't change much unless that also affects how many calories you eat. Focus more on counting calories. If you don't want to count calories, I'd at least give it a try for 2-4 weeks so you can get an idea of how many calories you typically eat and then make any adjustments based on if you decide to maintain or gain. However eating "clean" (besides having no definition) is not required for getting rid of your fat or gaining muscle. It's up to you what kinds of food you want to eat to get you to your goals.
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