met with a diet coach today...was a good experience BUT

laralosingit42
laralosingit42 Posts: 84 Member
edited November 11 in Health and Weight Loss
Best weight loss coach (of course i have never really had one but most personal trainers that i have had bad experiences with think they are coaches and nutritionists, lol) i have ever me with as this person did not tell me what to eat, how to eat it, or anything. This was more of a mental training which i found amazing. I agree with everything they suggest (they make it so simple) except they want us to "journal" (like written journal) everything. I LOVE MFP and they said we can use those apps to find calories but do not use them to track as if we add is exercise it will just confuse us and encourage us to eat more. I sort of agree with this as i am one of these people who likes to exercise ....just to get my stress out honestly...and I also like to see the rewards of burning the calories but not sure we should be eating back those calories. They recommend the typical 1200-1400 per day calories (i have over 100 lbs to lose) but i also like to exercise. My coach said i could log on MFP and then also keep a manual journal as well for her to see which i can do and have no problem with but not to log my exercise. Can we turn this off somehow on MFP. Can we log it and see the calories but not have it effect our calories for the day?
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  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    You can adjust the calories manually. Just put '1' in place of MFP's assumed calorie burn.
  • Siobhan108
    Siobhan108 Posts: 80 Member
    I use to log in my exercise and not eat the calories, but now I have a polar and it tells me how many calories I burn and how many steps I take every day so I just put the information in my notes at the bottom of the diary page. Remember to save the post before you close your page.
  • Amanda4change
    Amanda4change Posts: 620 Member
    I recently changed my calorie setting to be based off my activity level (TDEE method) which gives me a set number to eat daily instead of MFP's system of eating back exercise calories. I do still log my workouts, but I ignore the calories left and stick to my set number
  • laralosingit42
    laralosingit42 Posts: 84 Member
    no the coach is not using the TDEE method. They are using the eat between 1200-1400 calories per day method and dont log exercise...."losing weight is just math" so they do not want me to log my exercise as they say the apps are confusing and if you eat back your exercise calories you will not lose weight as fast. they don mind me to lose the app in order to log daily but i still have to write it all down each day and show them a manual journal. I actually agree with all these apps the "net calorie" thing is a confusing approach. I wish we could disable it or something
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    that is a very low calorie range with so much to lose.
  • laralosingit42
    laralosingit42 Posts: 84 Member
    yes i know...that is the part about it i am not sure about. I am sure I will lose weight at that level but knowing me i will be starving. i love the coach and MFP so not sure what to do.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    that is a very low calorie range with so much to lose.
    +1, Why so aggressive of a deficit? With 100 lbs to lose, regardless of your height and weight, you should be able to lose weight on a fair bit more calories. Plus it leaves you room to reduce calories later if needed. At a 1200 calorie starting point, you've left virtually no room to reduce if necessary.
  • NoelFigart1
    NoelFigart1 Posts: 1,276 Member
    Well, I do wonder if there is a presumption you will not weigh or measure your intake accurately enough and that is the wiggle room.

    That, or you have a physical condition that prevents hard core exercise.
  • Wiseandcurious
    Wiseandcurious Posts: 730 Member
    I recently changed my calorie setting to be based off my activity level (TDEE method) which gives me a set number to eat daily instead of MFP's system of eating back exercise calories. I do still log my workouts, but I ignore the calories left and stick to my set number

    I do this^ but log exercise using "1" as calories burned to avoid confusion.

    However if you have 100lb to lose, eating 1200-1400 cal a day seems unsustainable, unless you have a medical condition that makes the comparative benefit of losing the weight quickly greater than the comparative health risks (not to mention discomfort...)
  • NoelFigart1
    NoelFigart1 Posts: 1,276 Member
    FWIW, I have 93 to lose. I'm eating more like 1780. I also swim 5-6 miles a week.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    edited February 2015
    Best weight loss coach (of course i have never really had one but most personal trainers that i have had bad experiences with think they are coaches and nutritionists, lol) i have ever me with as this person did not tell me what to eat, how to eat it, or anything. This was more of a mental training which i found amazing. I agree with everything they suggest (they make it so simple) except they want us to "journal" (like written journal) everything. I LOVE MFP and they said we can use those apps to find calories but do not use them to track as if we add is exercise it will just confuse us and encourage us to eat more. I sort of agree with this as i am one of these people who likes to exercise ....just to get my stress out honestly...and I also like to see the rewards of burning the calories but not sure we should be eating back those calories. They recommend the typical 1200-1400 per day calories (i have over 100 lbs to lose) but i also like to exercise. My coach said i could log on MFP and then also keep a manual journal as well for her to see which i can do and have no problem with but not to log my exercise. Can we turn this off somehow on MFP. Can we log it and see the calories but not have it effect our calories for the day?

    Uh. Your diet coach is shite. You SHOULD be encouraged to eat as much food as possible. MFP does NET calories, meaning it doesn't include your exercise burns. This is why you are SUPPOSED to log and eat back at least half of those calories. And for a coach to advise that you gross 1200-1400 without basing it on any actual personal stats, especially with you needing to lose 100lbs, that's just TERRIBLE.

    If you paid for this, I suggest demanding a refund.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    no the coach is not using the TDEE method. They are using the eat between 1200-1400 calories per day method and dont log exercise...."losing weight is just math" so they do not want me to log my exercise as they say the apps are confusing and if you eat back your exercise calories you will not lose weight as fast. they don mind me to lose the app in order to log daily but i still have to write it all down each day and show them a manual journal. I actually agree with all these apps the "net calorie" thing is a confusing approach. I wish we could disable it or something

    Your coach is horrible. This person should not be giving this kind of advice to people.

    If net is confusing to you then estimate your TDEE properly through websites like health-calc.com or exrx.net, and include your regular exercise in the equation, and then subtract 20% from the number to achieve a ~1lb/week loss rate. If you lose significantly faster than this after your first month, then increase your calories by 100.
  • laralosingit42
    laralosingit42 Posts: 84 Member
    well the coach is great because they break it down in simple terms.... both of the coaches (women who own the company) lost weight very quickly without even exercising in saying weight loss is just math and nobody can argue with that. I just like to exercise and like to log it as it makes me feel good about myself (that i exercise...mostly for stress related anxiety). I believe their approach is good however do not agree with the range of calories. Also i know there is a huge debate if one should eat back exercise calories.....what does everyone do here? eat back or not? I totally agree i need more than 1200 calories per day. That part i do not agree with my coach. I will feel starved and end up binging.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Diet coach?

    Don't take nutrition advice from anyone except a registered dietician.
  • DancingMoosie
    DancingMoosie Posts: 8,619 Member
    You can always log your exercise and then change the calorie burn to a lower number if you think it is inflated. Another thing you can do is list your exercise in the notes section, but not actually log it for calories. However, you can log the exercise and eat back the calories, and still lose weight, as long as you are doing everything correctly and stay in a deficit. It is just math. You do burn more calories when you exercise, so you do get to eat more without erasing your deficit.
  • laralosingit42
    laralosingit42 Posts: 84 Member
    okay so this is more of a mental coach, somebody who is helping me with my emotional eating issues. Yes I agree that i should not take nutrition advice from them and they say upfront they do not offer than but more of emotional support once per week but the only thing that stumped me was the 1200-1400 range and also not to count my exercise in my calories as that is just a bonus. They also want me to write everything down and that seems annoying as i HATE paper/pen stuff, i type faster than i write. They told me not to use apps like MFP (well i could use it but then need to still write it down or just to look up calorie counts) as they are confusing ....this subject on which i completely agree. The net calorie thing on most weight loss apps screws with my head completely. always has.
  • sodakat
    sodakat Posts: 1,126 Member
    edited February 2015
    So, are you saying that these diet coaches don't exercise and that exercise is not part of their "plan"? If so, what is it they do? You said they don't tell you what to eat, just how many calories to eat. What else? I'm honestly curious. I wonder why they don't encourage exercise.

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  • DancingMoosie
    DancingMoosie Posts: 8,619 Member
    I think trying to stick to 1300 calories while exercising might mess with your head even more.
  • poohpoohpeapod
    poohpoohpeapod Posts: 776 Member
    I lost over 100lbs at 1700 calories per day. What they are suggesting is wrong. When you do lose at 1400, you will have no place to go.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    well the coach is great because they break it down in simple terms.... both of the coaches (women who own the company) lost weight very quickly without even exercising in saying weight loss is just math and nobody can argue with that. I just like to exercise and like to log it as it makes me feel good about myself (that i exercise...mostly for stress related anxiety). I believe their approach is good however do not agree with the range of calories. Also i know there is a huge debate if one should eat back exercise calories.....what does everyone do here? eat back or not? I totally agree i need more than 1200 calories per day. That part i do not agree with my coach. I will feel starved and end up binging.

    Weight loss IS just math. And they are not using math to help you. They lost weight in an unrecommended/unhealthy manner, assuming they use the same advice they are peddling to paying customers. If you use net calorie method then you need to eat your exercise calories.

    Let's say that without exercise, you can eat 2600 calories to maintain your weight. You set up a reasonable net goal of 2080 calories (~1lb/week loss). You exercise and burn 200 calories, and let's say that we know that this is actually how much you burned. This means that your day's maintenance is now 2800 calories. If you only eat 2080, you have a 720 calorie deficit now instead of a 520 deficit. You will lose faster, but it's also not an ideal approach. You need to nourish your body and fuel it to help sustain your lifestyle.

    When to eat back calories: Using net maintenance approach
    When NOT to eat back calories: Using TDEE approach, which already accounts for your exercise burns.

    If your exercise is consistent then go ahead and estimate your TDEE. If it isn't then stick to net, log the exercise, and eat at least 50% of those calories. Logging 50% of the time would make this easier because then you can still eat to your full calorie goal.
  • laralosingit42
    laralosingit42 Posts: 84 Member
    sodakat wrote: »
    So, are you saying that these diet coaches don't exercise and that exercise is not part of their "plan"? If so, what is it they do? You said they don't tell you what to eat, just how many calories to eat. What else? I'm honestly curious. I wonder why they don't encourage exercise.

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    that is what I am questioning is the calorie range, otherwise their view is awesome (the mental aspect). that is why i am on here questioning it (only the calorie range). their view point is losing weight is just math and that all the products in the world cannot change that is is ONLY math but they also teach you about loving yourself like you would love your children or a loved one...it is a lot of psychology and i need that right now. I like their method but what i am questioning is them telling me not to log my exercise or use apps and stick to 1200 (in the range , that it will not be perfect everday).

  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    edited February 2015
    okay so this is more of a mental coach, somebody who is helping me with my emotional eating issues. Yes I agree that i should not take nutrition advice from them and they say upfront they do not offer than but more of emotional support once per week but the only thing that stumped me was the 1200-1400 range and also not to count my exercise in my calories as that is just a bonus. They also want me to write everything down and that seems annoying as i HATE paper/pen stuff, i type faster than i write. They told me not to use apps like MFP (well i could use it but then need to still write it down or just to look up calorie counts) as they are confusing ....this subject on which i completely agree. The net calorie thing on most weight loss apps screws with my head completely. always has.

    How are they confusing?

    1) type food
    2) pick correct entry
    3) enter in serving size or weight of food
    4) eat.

    As far as I know this is the ONLY app that uses net calories. All other apps have you enter in your activity level based on TOTAL activity, i.e. your TDEE.

    Like I said, your coaches are shite.
  • laralosingit42
    laralosingit42 Posts: 84 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    well the coach is great because they break it down in simple terms.... both of the coaches (women who own the company) lost weight very quickly without even exercising in saying weight loss is just math and nobody can argue with that. I just like to exercise and like to log it as it makes me feel good about myself (that i exercise...mostly for stress related anxiety). I believe their approach is good however do not agree with the range of calories. Also i know there is a huge debate if one should eat back exercise calories.....what does everyone do here? eat back or not? I totally agree i need more than 1200 calories per day. That part i do not agree with my coach. I will feel starved and end up binging.

    Weight loss IS just math. And they are not using math to help you. They lost weight in an unrecommended/unhealthy manner, assuming they use the same advice they are peddling to paying customers. If you use net calorie method then you need to eat your exercise calories.

    Let's say that without exercise, you can eat 2600 calories to maintain your weight. You set up a reasonable net goal of 2080 calories (~1lb/week loss). You exercise and burn 200 calories, and let's say that we know that this is actually how much you burned. This means that your day's maintenance is now 2800 calories. If you only eat 2080, you have a 720 calorie deficit now instead of a 520 deficit. You will lose faster, but it's also not an ideal approach. You need to nourish your body and fuel it to help sustain your lifestyle.

    When to eat back calories: Using net maintenance approach
    When NOT to eat back calories: Using TDEE approach, which already accounts for your exercise burns.

    If your exercise is consistent then go ahead and estimate your TDEE. If it isn't then stick to net, log the exercise, and eat at least 50% of those calories. Logging 50% of the time would make this easier because then you can still eat to your full calorie goal.

    Well i DO need to lose weight faster than the normal person because of health reasons and i refuse to get weight loss surgery. I tried TDEE before and it is too slow. What do you guys recommend? I love MFP...dont want to journal but will have to to work with this coach (so double entry, but i can do that)...i would like to aim to lose 2-3 lbs per week.

  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    edited February 2015
    ana3067 wrote: »
    well the coach is great because they break it down in simple terms.... both of the coaches (women who own the company) lost weight very quickly without even exercising in saying weight loss is just math and nobody can argue with that. I just like to exercise and like to log it as it makes me feel good about myself (that i exercise...mostly for stress related anxiety). I believe their approach is good however do not agree with the range of calories. Also i know there is a huge debate if one should eat back exercise calories.....what does everyone do here? eat back or not? I totally agree i need more than 1200 calories per day. That part i do not agree with my coach. I will feel starved and end up binging.

    Weight loss IS just math. And they are not using math to help you. They lost weight in an unrecommended/unhealthy manner, assuming they use the same advice they are peddling to paying customers. If you use net calorie method then you need to eat your exercise calories.

    Let's say that without exercise, you can eat 2600 calories to maintain your weight. You set up a reasonable net goal of 2080 calories (~1lb/week loss). You exercise and burn 200 calories, and let's say that we know that this is actually how much you burned. This means that your day's maintenance is now 2800 calories. If you only eat 2080, you have a 720 calorie deficit now instead of a 520 deficit. You will lose faster, but it's also not an ideal approach. You need to nourish your body and fuel it to help sustain your lifestyle.

    When to eat back calories: Using net maintenance approach
    When NOT to eat back calories: Using TDEE approach, which already accounts for your exercise burns.

    If your exercise is consistent then go ahead and estimate your TDEE. If it isn't then stick to net, log the exercise, and eat at least 50% of those calories. Logging 50% of the time would make this easier because then you can still eat to your full calorie goal.

    Well i DO need to lose weight faster than the normal person because of health reasons and i refuse to get weight loss surgery. I tried TDEE before and it is too slow. What do you guys recommend? I love MFP...dont want to journal but will have to to work with this coach (so double entry, but i can do that)...i would like to aim to lose 2-3 lbs per week.

    Unless you are under the supervision of a medical doctor who has given you the OK (life coaches don't count), you should not be trying to lose weight at a super fast pace.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    well the coach is great because they break it down in simple terms.... both of the coaches (women who own the company) lost weight very quickly without even exercising in saying weight loss is just math and nobody can argue with that. I just like to exercise and like to log it as it makes me feel good about myself (that i exercise...mostly for stress related anxiety). I believe their approach is good however do not agree with the range of calories. Also i know there is a huge debate if one should eat back exercise calories.....what does everyone do here? eat back or not? I totally agree i need more than 1200 calories per day. That part i do not agree with my coach. I will feel starved and end up binging.

    Weight loss IS just math. And they are not using math to help you. They lost weight in an unrecommended/unhealthy manner, assuming they use the same advice they are peddling to paying customers. If you use net calorie method then you need to eat your exercise calories.

    Let's say that without exercise, you can eat 2600 calories to maintain your weight. You set up a reasonable net goal of 2080 calories (~1lb/week loss). You exercise and burn 200 calories, and let's say that we know that this is actually how much you burned. This means that your day's maintenance is now 2800 calories. If you only eat 2080, you have a 720 calorie deficit now instead of a 520 deficit. You will lose faster, but it's also not an ideal approach. You need to nourish your body and fuel it to help sustain your lifestyle.

    When to eat back calories: Using net maintenance approach
    When NOT to eat back calories: Using TDEE approach, which already accounts for your exercise burns.

    If your exercise is consistent then go ahead and estimate your TDEE. If it isn't then stick to net, log the exercise, and eat at least 50% of those calories. Logging 50% of the time would make this easier because then you can still eat to your full calorie goal.

    Well i DO need to lose weight faster than the normal person because of health reasons and i refuse to get weight loss surgery. I tried TDEE before and it is too slow. What do you guys recommend? I love MFP...dont want to journal but will have to to work with this coach (so double entry, but i can do that)...i would like to aim to lose 2-3 lbs per week.

    Then eat at a reasonable deficit that enables 1-1.5lbs of weight loss per week. Even when obese, losing 2-3lbs a week is NOT healthy. 2lbs at first, sure. After a month or two your calorie goal will likely no longer be sustainable.

    what is "too slow", 1lb/week? Because that is an advisable amount of weight to lose for many people. Did you gain 2-3lbs a week every week until you were 100lbs overweight? Probably not.

    So, you can either:
    1) Use the numbers MFP estimates using the 1lb/week goal and eat back 50-75% of your exercise calories, OR
    2) estimate your TDEE and subtract 20% for a ~1lb/week goal.

    Or do 2lb/week for the first month or two before switching to 1-1.5lb/week.
  • laralosingit42
    laralosingit42 Posts: 84 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    well the coach is great because they break it down in simple terms.... both of the coaches (women who own the company) lost weight very quickly without even exercising in saying weight loss is just math and nobody can argue with that. I just like to exercise and like to log it as it makes me feel good about myself (that i exercise...mostly for stress related anxiety). I believe their approach is good however do not agree with the range of calories. Also i know there is a huge debate if one should eat back exercise calories.....what does everyone do here? eat back or not? I totally agree i need more than 1200 calories per day. That part i do not agree with my coach. I will feel starved and end up binging.

    Weight loss IS just math. And they are not using math to help you. They lost weight in an unrecommended/unhealthy manner, assuming they use the same advice they are peddling to paying customers. If you use net calorie method then you need to eat your exercise calories.

    Let's say that without exercise, you can eat 2600 calories to maintain your weight. You set up a reasonable net goal of 2080 calories (~1lb/week loss). You exercise and burn 200 calories, and let's say that we know that this is actually how much you burned. This means that your day's maintenance is now 2800 calories. If you only eat 2080, you have a 720 calorie deficit now instead of a 520 deficit. You will lose faster, but it's also not an ideal approach. You need to nourish your body and fuel it to help sustain your lifestyle.

    When to eat back calories: Using net maintenance approach
    When NOT to eat back calories: Using TDEE approach, which already accounts for your exercise burns.

    If your exercise is consistent then go ahead and estimate your TDEE. If it isn't then stick to net, log the exercise, and eat at least 50% of those calories. Logging 50% of the time would make this easier because then you can still eat to your full calorie goal.

    Well i DO need to lose weight faster than the normal person because of health reasons and i refuse to get weight loss surgery. I tried TDEE before and it is too slow. What do you guys recommend? I love MFP...dont want to journal but will have to to work with this coach (so double entry, but i can do that)...i would like to aim to lose 2-3 lbs per week.

    Unless you are under the supervision of a medical doctor who has given you the OK (life coaches don't count), you should not be trying to lose weight at a super fast pace.
    i am under the supervision of a medical doctor. I do need to lose weight faster and the only reason i got this coach was to help with the mental part of it which i need very badly.

  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    well the coach is great because they break it down in simple terms.... both of the coaches (women who own the company) lost weight very quickly without even exercising in saying weight loss is just math and nobody can argue with that. I just like to exercise and like to log it as it makes me feel good about myself (that i exercise...mostly for stress related anxiety). I believe their approach is good however do not agree with the range of calories. Also i know there is a huge debate if one should eat back exercise calories.....what does everyone do here? eat back or not? I totally agree i need more than 1200 calories per day. That part i do not agree with my coach. I will feel starved and end up binging.

    Weight loss IS just math. And they are not using math to help you. They lost weight in an unrecommended/unhealthy manner, assuming they use the same advice they are peddling to paying customers. If you use net calorie method then you need to eat your exercise calories.

    Let's say that without exercise, you can eat 2600 calories to maintain your weight. You set up a reasonable net goal of 2080 calories (~1lb/week loss). You exercise and burn 200 calories, and let's say that we know that this is actually how much you burned. This means that your day's maintenance is now 2800 calories. If you only eat 2080, you have a 720 calorie deficit now instead of a 520 deficit. You will lose faster, but it's also not an ideal approach. You need to nourish your body and fuel it to help sustain your lifestyle.

    When to eat back calories: Using net maintenance approach
    When NOT to eat back calories: Using TDEE approach, which already accounts for your exercise burns.

    If your exercise is consistent then go ahead and estimate your TDEE. If it isn't then stick to net, log the exercise, and eat at least 50% of those calories. Logging 50% of the time would make this easier because then you can still eat to your full calorie goal.

    Well i DO need to lose weight faster than the normal person because of health reasons and i refuse to get weight loss surgery. I tried TDEE before and it is too slow. What do you guys recommend? I love MFP...dont want to journal but will have to to work with this coach (so double entry, but i can do that)...i would like to aim to lose 2-3 lbs per week.

    Unless you are under the supervision of a medical doctor who has given you the OK (life coaches don't count), you should not be trying to lose weight at a super fast pace.
    i am under the supervision of a medical doctor. I do need to lose weight faster and the only reason i got this coach was to help with the mental part of it which i need very badly.
    And your doctor said that you need to lose 10+lbs a month? If you want to do that in the first month or two, sure, go ahead. It will not be sustainable for very long.
  • laralosingit42
    laralosingit42 Posts: 84 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    okay so this is more of a mental coach, somebody who is helping me with my emotional eating issues. Yes I agree that i should not take nutrition advice from them and they say upfront they do not offer than but more of emotional support once per week but the only thing that stumped me was the 1200-1400 range and also not to count my exercise in my calories as that is just a bonus. They also want me to write everything down and that seems annoying as i HATE paper/pen stuff, i type faster than i write. They told me not to use apps like MFP (well i could use it but then need to still write it down or just to look up calorie counts) as they are confusing ....this subject on which i completely agree. The net calorie thing on most weight loss apps screws with my head completely. always has.

    How are they confusing?

    1) type food
    2) pick correct entry
    3) enter in serving size or weight of food
    4) eat.

    As far as I know this is the ONLY app that uses net calories. All other apps have you enter in your activity level based on TOTAL activity, i.e. your TDEE.

    Like I said, your coaches are shite.

    this is a little harsh. I know about 5 apps that use net calories (it started years ago with livestrong site....it was before this site). since this trend started i literally do not understand if you need to eat back exercising calories or what. i know that sounds dumb but in the past when i had success at losing weight (years ago) i never logged my exercise calories or ate them back ...this was in the 90's. I am open minded but if anybody here can give me some advice (forget the freaking coach, i need her for some mental problems i have with food but does not mean i am going to follow what she says to a T on nutrition as i am not going to her for that reason).......if i want to keep a steady 2 lbs a week loss, i need to lose over 100 lbs, i am female , 5'4, 42 years old, sometimes i exercise, sometimes i do not...how should i set up MFP to do this correctly? Also, i have a fitbit and love it. This may sound dumb...i know you all know what to do, i have emotional issues related to food and that is why i have a coach but it does not mean I am going to follow what they say about exercise or nutrition. I will still exercise (as it helps with me anxiety and is just good for anybody) but need help tailoring MFP to the right calorie level for me so i can consistently lose. I am committed now and just am asking for help here.
  • DancingMoosie
    DancingMoosie Posts: 8,619 Member
    All you have to do is enter your goals, exactly how you just stated them, into mfp and then follow the calorie goal it gives you. You can log your exercise and eat it back. If you still want to use the coach for the mental aspect, go ahead.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    okay so this is more of a mental coach, somebody who is helping me with my emotional eating issues. Yes I agree that i should not take nutrition advice from them and they say upfront they do not offer than but more of emotional support once per week but the only thing that stumped me was the 1200-1400 range and also not to count my exercise in my calories as that is just a bonus. They also want me to write everything down and that seems annoying as i HATE paper/pen stuff, i type faster than i write. They told me not to use apps like MFP (well i could use it but then need to still write it down or just to look up calorie counts) as they are confusing ....this subject on which i completely agree. The net calorie thing on most weight loss apps screws with my head completely. always has.

    How are they confusing?

    1) type food
    2) pick correct entry
    3) enter in serving size or weight of food
    4) eat.

    As far as I know this is the ONLY app that uses net calories. All other apps have you enter in your activity level based on TOTAL activity, i.e. your TDEE.

    Like I said, your coaches are shite.

    this is a little harsh. I know about 5 apps that use net calories (it started years ago with livestrong site....it was before this site). since this trend started i literally do not understand if you need to eat back exercising calories or what. i know that sounds dumb but in the past when i had success at losing weight (years ago) i never logged my exercise calories or ate them back ...this was in the 90's. I am open minded but if anybody here can give me some advice (forget the freaking coach, i need her for some mental problems i have with food but does not mean i am going to follow what she says to a T on nutrition as i am not going to her for that reason).......if i want to keep a steady 2 lbs a week loss, i need to lose over 100 lbs, i am female , 5'4, 42 years old, sometimes i exercise, sometimes i do not...how should i set up MFP to do this correctly? Also, i have a fitbit and love it. This may sound dumb...i know you all know what to do, i have emotional issues related to food and that is why i have a coach but it does not mean I am going to follow what they say about exercise or nutrition. I will still exercise (as it helps with me anxiety and is just good for anybody) but need help tailoring MFP to the right calorie level for me so i can consistently lose. I am committed now and just am asking for help here.

    "* Net Calories Consumed = Total Calories Consumed - Exercise Calories Burned"
    Eat to your net goal, log exercise, eat the exercise calories back (most recommend 50-75% of the calories should be eaten). This was already said many times in the thread and it is already in a sticky or two, I'm pretty sure.

    And 2lbs/week will not be sustainable for long. Unless you are literally about to die like.. right now because of your weight, losing 4-5lbs a month would be just fine. Most people lose more than their goal in the first month or two anyways.
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