Do you subtract calories from weight lifting?

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  • AllanMisner
    AllanMisner Posts: 4,140 Member
    leecha2014 wrote: »
    I'm really glad I'm not the only one confused. There are soooo many people using mfp what has everyone been doing? I would just feel better staying within my goal, which is low as it is. Psychologically it is depressing when you see red, I'm just trying to be really accurate however at the end of the day it's working:)

    Don’t get so wrapped up in it. The calories in/calories out are all estimates. The only advantage to counting calories in is to make sure you’re aware of what you’re eating. Assuming you don’t want to count calories the rest of your life, this should be a time to change what you eat and become more aware of how much energy it has in it.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    awarreningermany wrote: »
    But apparently (from what I read online) you do actually, in the long run, burn more with weights/HIIT but the more you burn is overtime generally and not in the moment which is part of why it is so hard to judge based simply on the time you were in the gym. Like I am still burning more calories hours after I leave the gym whereas with just cardio, you stop burning the minute you stop doing the cardio. That helps me a bit I think. :D

    Which goes back to my original point upthread; EPOC is vastly overplayed. In both CV and resistance the effect of EPOC is in the realms of single figure percentage of the activity expenditure, so still equivalent or higher for a CV session of equal time to a resistance session as it's a slightly lower percentage of a higher figure.

    So for last nights run I'd probably get around 30 calories on top of a 600 calorie session, if I were to have done the same duration of resistance work I may have got 30 calories (rounding up) on top of a 300 calorie session, and that's being generous.

    There is a very long term effect, inasmuch as the retention of lean mass maintains a slightly higher BMR, although again that extra calorie per hour isn't going to make a huge difference as it's lost in the noise.


  • MmmDrop
    MmmDrop Posts: 160 Member

    But you sure as hell aren't supporting 250lbs for a complete hour (time under tension...) or doing HIIT for an hour!

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    I do. And I do it 5-6 days a week... for an entire hour. Heavy lifting is the only strength training I do, and I do it HIIT. I don't sit there for 3 minutes between reps. 2-3 reps EMOM.

  • hill8570
    hill8570 Posts: 1,466 Member
    edited February 2015
    MmmDrop wrote: »
    But you sure as hell aren't supporting 250lbs for a complete hour (time under tension...) or doing HIIT for an hour!

    I do. And I do it 5-6 days a week... for an entire hour. Heavy lifting is the only strength training I do, and I do it HIIT. I don't sit there for 3 minutes between reps. 2-3 reps EMOM.

    So basically "lift 30 seconds, rest 30 seconds"? Sort of heavy circuit training. Respect.

    Still, unless you're working out for a lot more than an hour, you're not TOT for the whole hour. You gotta shift plates, switch stations, yada yada yada.
  • Noeyfit
    Noeyfit Posts: 8 Member
    Weight training burns more than cardio, get a fitbit or other heart rate monitor and it will show you how much youre burning during the workout. After you train your muscles your calories are still burning to the next day. Remember the more muscle you have the more your body burns while youre resting.
  • hill8570
    hill8570 Posts: 1,466 Member
    edited February 2015
    Noeyfit wrote: »
    Weight training burns more than cardio, get a fitbit or other heart rate monitor and it will show you how much youre burning during the workout. After you train your muscles your calories are still burning to the next day. Remember the more muscle you have the more your body burns while youre resting.

    An HRM won't give an accurate reading for a non-continous-aerobic burn like weight training. And let's not fool ourselves here -- I love lifting, but it's not going to "burn more than cardio" for the same time input. And the after-burn is not going to be all that significant (no more than the after-burn that HIIT fanboys love to trumpet). Lifting heavy has great benefits, but mongrel calorie burns ain't one of them.
  • JessaLee0324
    JessaLee0324 Posts: 118 Member
    Noeyfit wrote: »
    Weight training burns more than cardio, get a fitbit or other heart rate monitor and it will show you how much youre burning during the workout. After you train your muscles your calories are still burning to the next day. Remember the more muscle you have the more your body burns while youre resting.

    ^this...
    Weight training continues to burn calories well after your session is over, unlike cardio. Also, weight training makes the body work harder then many forms of cardio. I don't know about you guys but I can feel my body continue to repair itself up to a day and a half after a session.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    Noeyfit wrote: »
    Weight training burns more than cardio, get a fitbit or other heart rate monitor and it will show you how much youre burning during the workout. After you train your muscles your calories are still burning to the next day.

    *facepalm*

    Never mind the physics, feel the broscience...
  • vixtris
    vixtris Posts: 688 Member
    I wear my HRM when lifting. One time it claimed as high as 600 cals burned in 90 mins of lifting. Although its a stretch, I logged it anyways. Another time it said 400 cals in 70 mins, which seemed a little more believable. I don't eat all my exercise calories back and usually stay about within the same range of calorie intake every day anyways. I track it under cardio, though, just so it shows up in my food diary.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Noeyfit wrote: »
    Weight training burns more than cardio, get a fitbit or other heart rate monitor and it will show you how much youre burning during the workout. After you train your muscles your calories are still burning to the next day. Remember the more muscle you have the more your body burns while youre resting.

    Nope
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