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  • blktngldhrt
    blktngldhrt Posts: 1,053 Member
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    mccindy72 wrote: »
    ahamm002 wrote: »
    My pancreas doesn't discriminate between a pineapple and a pack of sour patch kids.
    1. Obviously if you have diabetes that's different situation.
    2. Perhaps your pancreas doesn't, so what? Your GI system does.

    Unless you have a medical condition, the source of the sugar makes no difference. Even added sugar comes from plants like sugar cane or sugar beets.

    I do not have diabetes.

    Even with a medical condition the source of the sugar makes no difference. Where the sugar comes from is irrelevant. It's the other components of whatever you're eating in addition to the sugar that are relevant to weight-loss.
  • tanyanetardus
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    I am confused on what should be daily amount of sugar intake as AMA states 20 grams for women and some articles I read state about 24 grams but my pal tracker has way over that for daily amount, by a lot ???
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited February 2015
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    I am confused on what should be daily amount of sugar intake as AMA states 20 grams for women and some articles I read state about 24 grams but my pal tracker has way over that for daily amount, by a lot ???

    These recommendations are for added sugar (and the reasoning for them has nothing to do with sugar itself being bad, but with people overeating on sweet high-calorie foods if they aren't paying attention). MFP tracks all sugar and so, as a result, I'd ignore it and not over think things in general.

    Track calories (for weight loss). Watch your diet if you want to know if you are eating a health diet--monitoring sugar grams if you understand what you are eating seems unnecessary. However, if you must, track carbs and fiber if you want a good proxy for whether you are eating too many low-nutrient carbs. If you are within a reasonable carb limit (like the default) and have enough fiber, you are fine. Also, if you know you are mostly getting sugar from fruit, veggies, and dairy, you are fine.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
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    mccindy72 wrote: »
    ahamm002 wrote: »
    My pancreas doesn't discriminate between a pineapple and a pack of sour patch kids.
    1. Obviously if you have diabetes that's different situation.
    2. Perhaps your pancreas doesn't, so what? Your GI system does.

    Unless you have a medical condition, the source of the sugar makes no difference. Even added sugar comes from plants like sugar cane or sugar beets.

    I do not have diabetes.

    Even with a medical condition the source of the sugar makes no difference. Where the sugar comes from is irrelevant. It's the other components of whatever you're eating in addition to the sugar that are relevant to weight-loss.

    The one exception is for those who take insulin, sugar (of any kind) that is accompanied with fiber will raise the blood sugar slower so the insulin dose needs to be adjusted for the slower reaction time. I think that is what was meant by "Unless you have a medical condition, the source of the sugar makes no difference". The actual sugar makes no difference (sucrose, fructose, lactose, maltose, glucose, etc) in how your body reacts, but the source (fruit, milk, table sugar, honey, agave, etc) can make a difference in those with a medical condition (diabetes) that needs to be managed with insulin. For weight loss, no, it makes no difference. For diabetics who are managing via oral medication or diet and exercise only, no, it makes no difference.
  • LovingLife_Erin
    LovingLife_Erin Posts: 328 Member
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    My doctor friend, who also has T1 diabetes, has told me that in things like fruit, for most people, the amount of fiber should be deducted from the amount of sugar. He explained that the remaining amount of sugar is a more accurate estimate of what your body actually takes in (if that makes sense).

    If the majority of your sugar comes from natural sources, and you do not have a medical reason to be concerned about sugar, then I wouldn't worry about it too much, as others have said.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,948 Member
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    Khovde07 wrote: »
    With natural sugars vs processed sugars, do you still count them as sugar is sugar?

    Sugar is sugar is sugar. Don't put the cart in front of the horse. Worry about overall calories instead of sugars. Highly refined foods with lost of added sugars are usually low in nutrients and very easy to over eat so use common sense and let your goals guide your choices...
  • tanyanetardus
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    Thanks very interesting i love all the feedback it helps
  • irishtatty125
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    I just realized this week, after 40 years of life, that milk has ask this sugar. I was alerted that I went over my sugar too and I cut adding sugar to my food. With my busy lifestyle, I missed a lot of meals and subbed lattes. And wondered why I never lost weight. I'm paying attention to sugar in food now!
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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    I just realized this week, after 40 years of life, that milk has ask this sugar. I was alerted that I went over my sugar too and I cut adding sugar to my food. With my busy lifestyle, I missed a lot of meals and subbed lattes. And wondered why I never lost weight. I'm paying attention to sugar in food now!

    It wasn't the sugar, it was the calories.

    And basically anything ending in -ose is a sugar (for future reference).

  • Phoenix_Down
    Phoenix_Down Posts: 530 Member
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    I just realized this week, after 40 years of life, that milk has ask this sugar. I was alerted that I went over my sugar too and I cut adding sugar to my food. With my busy lifestyle, I missed a lot of meals and subbed lattes. And wondered why I never lost weight. I'm paying attention to sugar in food now!

    ...you didn't lose weight because you weren't in a calorie deficit. Period. Sugar had nothing to do with your lack of loss.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    I am confused on what should be daily amount of sugar intake as AMA states 20 grams for women and some articles I read state about 24 grams but my pal tracker has way over that for daily amount, by a lot ???

    The MFP number is 15% of calories and represents total sugars.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    My doctor friend, who also has T1 diabetes, has told me that in things like fruit, for most people, the amount of fiber should be deducted from the amount of sugar.

    That would be described as "a load of bollocks" here. You would never subtract fiber from sugar, but as an American there may be an argument to subtract your fiber from your "Total carbohydrate" to get to the digestible or net carbohydrate content.

  • Lezavargas
    Lezavargas Posts: 223 Member
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    Khovde07 wrote: »
    Hi all! I noticed something in my daily food entry that's been bugging me. My sugar intake. I normally don't have a problem with eating too much candy, etc. My problem lies in the fact that an apple has almost as much sugar as a candy bar. Now here's my problem... With natural sugars vs processed sugars, do you still count them as sugar is sugar? Or do you kind of ignore the sugar that comes from fruit?

    I'm just curious what everyone else's methods are. Thanks!
    Khovde07 wrote: »
    Hi all! I noticed something in my daily food entry that's been bugging me. My sugar intake. I normally don't have a problem with eating too much candy, etc. My problem lies in the fact that an apple has almost as much sugar as a candy bar. Now here's my problem... With natural sugars vs processed sugars, do you still count them as sugar is sugar? Or do you kind of ignore the sugar that comes from fruit?

    I'm just curious what everyone else's methods are. Thanks!

    Dont let anybody tell you why or why not you didnt lose the weight. Nobody knows your body like you do! If you know that sugar doesnt agree with your body then you are probably right! This from an ex sugar obsessed sweetsaholic! Friend me for support and some good recipes!

  • neaneacc
    neaneacc Posts: 224 Member
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    Sugar isn't a bad word. Neither is fat, carbs, or calories. I know that dieting is hard because the media sells us a lot of crap. The best basic approach to nutrition is that natural is better for your body. Unless you are a diabetic sugar from good foods (oranges, apples, bananas, or even things like carrots) is fine. However, I will mention that processed fruits like juice and fruit cups are loaded with extra sugar as a preservative. Too much added sugar makes the body work much harder during digestion, and forces much more fluctuations with energy. This can lead to all sorts of dieting troubles (fatigue, moodiness, poor sleep) which cause unnecessary stress.
  • Briargrey
    Briargrey Posts: 498 Member
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    I just realized this week, after 40 years of life, that milk has ask this sugar. I was alerted that I went over my sugar too and I cut adding sugar to my food. With my busy lifestyle, I missed a lot of meals and subbed lattes. And wondered why I never lost weight. I'm paying attention to sugar in food now!

    A busy lifestyle means you drink lattes instead of meals? The Starbucks line is more of a waste of time than bringing a meal. But whatever. Weird excuse for trying to justify latte intake.

    It's really the calories in those danged lattes not the sugar content that caused you to gain weight. Seriously. You can have SO MUCH FOOD for the same calorie count if you pick the right things, LOL.

  • Phoenix_Down
    Phoenix_Down Posts: 530 Member
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    Lezavargas wrote: »
    Khovde07 wrote: »
    Hi all! I noticed something in my daily food entry that's been bugging me. My sugar intake. I normally don't have a problem with eating too much candy, etc. My problem lies in the fact that an apple has almost as much sugar as a candy bar. Now here's my problem... With natural sugars vs processed sugars, do you still count them as sugar is sugar? Or do you kind of ignore the sugar that comes from fruit?

    I'm just curious what everyone else's methods are. Thanks!
    Khovde07 wrote: »
    Hi all! I noticed something in my daily food entry that's been bugging me. My sugar intake. I normally don't have a problem with eating too much candy, etc. My problem lies in the fact that an apple has almost as much sugar as a candy bar. Now here's my problem... With natural sugars vs processed sugars, do you still count them as sugar is sugar? Or do you kind of ignore the sugar that comes from fruit?

    I'm just curious what everyone else's methods are. Thanks!

    Dont let anybody tell you why or why not you didnt lose the weight. Nobody knows your body like you do! If you know that sugar doesnt agree with your body then you are probably right! This from an ex sugar obsessed sweetsaholic! Friend me for support and some good recipes!

    Hey, from one sweet lover to another, calories still matter.
  • socalkay
    socalkay Posts: 746 Member
    edited February 2015
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    I ignore the sugar from fruit. The fiber in fruit slows the absorption of sugar into the blood stream. That's a very good thing, metabolically. I try to keep my processed sugars to 30g/day. It's easy to calculate quickly at the end of the day.

    http://authoritynutrition.com/sugar-the-worst-ingredient-in-the-diet/

    Note at the end of the article they emphasize they are not talking about the sugar in whole fruits.

    I also found the info on the following site very helpful in understanding how the body metabolizes carbs and sugar.

    http://www.gisymbol.com/about/frequently-asked-questions/
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,948 Member
    edited February 2015
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    I just realized this week, after 40 years of life, that milk has ask this sugar. I was alerted that I went over my sugar too and I cut adding sugar to my food. With my busy lifestyle, I missed a lot of meals and subbed lattes. And wondered why I never lost weight. I'm paying attention to sugar in food now!

    I re-worded it to for accuracy...
    I just realized this week, after 40 years of life, that milk has ask this sugar (calories). I was alerted that I went over my sugar (calories) too and I cut adding sugar (calories) to my food. With my busy lifestyle, I missed a lot of meals and subbed lattes. And wondered why I never lost weight. I'm paying attention to sugar (calories) in food now!



  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    socalkay wrote: »
    I ignore the sugar from fruit. The fiber in fruit slows the absorption of sugar into the blood stream.

    Not really, science from the (19)50s and 70s says otherwise. The sugar's in the juice and is rapidly liberated when you bit and chew fruit.