What am I missing? Tell me something I don't know

kaimana46
kaimana46 Posts: 8
edited November 13 in Health and Weight Loss
So I'm a 23 year old female who has been relatively thin for most my life with little to no real effort. I played sports in high school but never really watched what I ate, that being said growing up I just didn't really have the taste buds for sweets or meats. I did for a period of time get really sick from a type of birth control that basically didn't let me eat anything, cue looking like an Ethiopian. Fast forward to college where I gained the freshman 15 bc I didn't exercise and once I got better I ate everything, burgers, fries, everything. Then sophomore year I weighed the most I've ever weighed and was back on a new birth control. Started working out and went abroad, stopped taking birth control, and dropped all the weight but junior year. I've never been an excercise enthusiast and cardio was never ever part of my routine. When I did work out in college it was mild weight training and the elliptical. By senior year I was 56 and117 lbs trying to gain back a little weight. I ate healthy but still drank, a lot. After graduating I started my office job and was traveling all the time and exercising less if at all. I moved to Hawaii and started being active and working out some but again probably not burning more than 200-300 calories per workout. I was hiking and swimming a lot and didn't hate myself in a bikini. Definitely didn't limit my food but I did try and eat healthy.

Now that my entire life story is out there, I can get to the point.

After moving from Hawaii to Georgia I was so excited to have a kitchen I was cooking and eating and drinking a lot. I was also starving all the time, let me mention I got back on birth control. The holidays rolled around and after thanksgiving I realized I was back on the upwards side of 138. I decided that I was going to get back in shape, stop taking birth control, and was devastated by my bikini pictures during my 3 week winter vacation.

Once I returned from vacation i was pleasantly surprised to see I had lost 7lbs just over vacation. I am 5'6 and weighed about 131 when I came back so it inspired me to lose more and get to my goal weight of 123-125. I've worked out every day wih NTC. I started a training program with weight lifting and cardio. I can run for 8 miles straight now which I'm pretty sure I've never done in my life, I did mention how much I hate cardio, right? I stopped eating out as much, eat organic, mainly veggies, I've cut back on gluten, eat whole grains, proteins, and healthy fats. I've done a tea tox cleanse and I track my calories every day. My calories counter swears I should weigh 120 LBs at least by now but I am not dropping any weight. I feel like I'm looking better but there's still doubt and honestly it's just my stomach that isn't getting any flatter. Before recommendations come in I've been obsessed with health and I know the following

1. Interval training is key
2. Not eating enough can slow your metabolism
3. Crash diets don't work
4. Planks are better than crunches
5. Muscle weights more than fat
6. Scales can be the enemy
7. When you're smaller you tend to lose weight slower
8. Everyone is different
9. I should probably stop drinking so much alcohol
10. Running a slow pace jog is better than long distance

I've also calculated my BMI and I know I'm still in the healthy range. Perhaps this is just me venting but I feel like I'm working so hard at something I've never really put effort into and it's disappointing when the numbers don't drop after 37 days of clean eating and 6 days of working out. Can anyone tell me something I don't know?
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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    In before the "Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat because density" crowd gets here....
  • DirrtyH
    DirrtyH Posts: 664 Member
    edited February 2015
    Edited because it would help if I could read.
  • JSurita2
    JSurita2 Posts: 1,304 Member
    * Pulling out the popcorn*
  • aplcr0331
    aplcr0331 Posts: 186 Member
    edited February 2015
    #9. Ya think?

    Something you don't know? Your body is not a closed system. And, patience is a virtue.

  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    1. Key to what?
    2. ~buzzer~ WRONG.
    3. ~ding~ true
    4. Better how? Both are overrated, especially for someone like you, already fit.
    5. Muscle has more density than fat. People will bicker over "weighs more" vs "has higher density." Just warning you what's coming.
    6. Food scales are your friend. Body scales are merely a measuring device. Rating your health and fitness solely on the numbers they give? Not so much.
    7. ~ding~ true, for the most part.
    8. ~ding~ true
    9. Only you know for sure if this is the case.
    10. WUT.
  • enterdanger
    enterdanger Posts: 2,447 Member
    Okay, so totally off topic but I wanna move to Hawaii. Can I come visit? I'm tubby so if I stand next to you, you will totally look skinny. That is the real secret to dieting. Always stand next to someone fatter than you when wearing a bikini.

    Are you eating a lot of susumi? Oh, and I would drink a ton of Kona Brewing Co.

    I don't have any sage advice. Just wanted to express my jealousy of where you live.
  • JSurita2
    JSurita2 Posts: 1,304 Member
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    edited February 2015
    1. Interval training is key
    2. Not eating enough can slow your metabolism

    3. Crash diets don't work
    4. Planks are better than crunches
    5. Muscle weights more than fat
    6. Scales can be the enemy

    7. When you're smaller you tend to lose weight slower
    8. Everyone is different
    9. I should probably stop drinking so much alcohol
    10. Running a slow pace jog is better than long distance

    FIFY

    As far as #8...yes, everyone is different, but when it comes to weight loss, a calorie deficit is what everyone needs. If you aren't losing, you need to eat less. If you think you're eating very low calorie and still not losing, try a food scale and figure out how many calories you're truly eating.
  • dfranch
    dfranch Posts: 207 Member
    I'm surprised nobody has jumped in with "Are you weighing your food?". That is a very popular response in threads like this. That being said, It is surprising what a difference it can make.
  • jessupbrady
    jessupbrady Posts: 508 Member
    You are right about #2; but eating too little won't affect your eight loss; you should read this article to learn more about it: http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/starvation-mode/

    With regard to #5; you will get a huge debate as @EWJLang and @Hornsby‌ eluded. You should read this article to educate yourself more on that topic: http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/weight-loss-plateau-myth-muscle-weighs-more-than-fat/

  • _FATNSASSY
    _FATNSASSY Posts: 107 Member
    I would say that you are probably eating more calories than you think you are...ever try a scale... said the woman who doesnt use a scale... :D You dont have to do it forever... but it might give you more insite after a couple of weeks...
  • jessupbrady
    jessupbrady Posts: 508 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    ... seriously?
    Plenty of people are here to lose vanity pounds. Myself included.
    I'm in the healthy weight range for my height, towards the top of it but still have a healthy BMI (which is a crap science but whatever).
  • Thanks for all the feedback! The blogs really do help.

    Apologies to people who are offended, the intention of posting was to gain some insight on health and fitness from other people who have the same interests. Weather it's 5 lbs or 100 there should be support and knowledge for everyone who's attempting to live a healthier life.
  • JSurita2
    JSurita2 Posts: 1,304 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?[/quote]

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.
  • 1. Interval training is key
    2. Not eating enough can slow your metabolism

    3. Crash diets don't work
    4. Planks are better than crunches
    5. Muscle weights more than fat
    6. Scales can be the enemy

    7. When you're smaller you tend to lose weight slower
    8. Everyone is different
    9. I should probably stop drinking so much alcohol
    10. Running a slow pace jog is better than long distance

    FIFY

    As far as #8...yes, everyone is different, but when it comes to weight loss, a calorie deficit is what everyone needs. If you aren't losing, you need to eat less. If you think you're eating very low calorie and still not losing, try a food scale and figure out how many calories you're truly eating.

    Thanks, I burn about 400-600 calories when I work out and my calorie counter is set at 1200 a day for weightloss. I know it's low but I try to factor in that I'm probably off by how many calories are actually in what I cook/eat.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    Lots of wrong in that list there OP.
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    edited February 2015
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    you'd be surprised.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    edited February 2015
    kaimana46 wrote: »
    1. Interval training is key
    2. Not eating enough can slow your metabolism

    3. Crash diets don't work
    4. Planks are better than crunches
    5. Muscle weights more than fat
    6. Scales can be the enemy

    7. When you're smaller you tend to lose weight slower
    8. Everyone is different
    9. I should probably stop drinking so much alcohol
    10. Running a slow pace jog is better than long distance

    FIFY

    As far as #8...yes, everyone is different, but when it comes to weight loss, a calorie deficit is what everyone needs. If you aren't losing, you need to eat less. If you think you're eating very low calorie and still not losing, try a food scale and figure out how many calories you're truly eating.

    Thanks, I burn about 400-600 calories when I work out and my calorie counter is set at 1200 a day for weightloss. I know it's low but I try to factor in that I'm probably off by how many calories are actually in what I cook/eat.

    What kind of workout are you doing? And for how long? Do you eat back those calories? I'm close to the same size as you, and it's very difficult for me to burn that much per workout. If you're over estimating calorie burns and eating back those calories, it could be a part of your problem.

  • jessupbrady
    jessupbrady Posts: 508 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    Actually, many people struggle with the last few pounds and ask for help about it.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    Actually, many people struggle with the last few pounds and ask for help about it.

    Yup usually title vanity pounds not coming off or how to get rid of the last few pounds or why the last few pounds are hard to go.
  • JSurita2
    JSurita2 Posts: 1,304 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    you'd be surprised.

    You're probably right. I want to lose some vanity pounds also, like 20 to be exact. But (and clearly this is just me) I'll feel sort of bad complaining about my weight to someone who is morbidly obese or lets say has 100 pounds to lose. That was my point. I guess that's my issue. I get easily annoyed with the whole "I only have 4 pack abs but really want 6, can you fat people help me". mentatlity. That's all. Maybe I'm crazy.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited February 2015
    1. Interval training is key
    2. Not eating enough can slow your metabolism

    3. Crash diets don't work
    4. Planks are better than crunches
    5. Muscle weights more than fat
    6. Scales can be the enemy

    7. When you're smaller you tend to lose weight slower
    8. Everyone is different
    9. I should probably stop drinking so much alcohol
    10. Running a slow pace jog is better than long distance

    FIFY

    As far as #8...yes, everyone is different, but when it comes to weight loss, a calorie deficit is what everyone needs. If you aren't losing, you need to eat less. If you think you're eating very low calorie and still not losing, try a food scale and figure out how many calories you're truly eating.

    Yes that's fixed

    Just this bit now

    " I stopped eating out as much, eat organic, mainly veggies, I've cut back on gluten, eat whole grains, proteins, and healthy fats. I've done a tea tox cleanse and I track my calories every day. My calories counter swears I should weigh 120 LBs at least by now but I am not dropping any weight. I feel like I'm looking better but there's still doubt and honestly it's just my stomach that isn't getting any flatter. Before recommendations come in I've been obsessed with health and I know the following"

    Gluten is not the enemy unless you have some form go gluten intolerant condition
    Teatox cleanse ?? Simply no
    Weight loss isn't linear and if you've only been working out 6 days = water retention
    Stomachs aren't flat

    Do heavy progressive lifting ...static planks are crap!
  • kaimana46 wrote: »
    1. Interval training is key
    2. Not eating enough can slow your metabolism

    3. Crash diets don't work
    4. Planks are better than crunches
    5. Muscle weights more than fat
    6. Scales can be the enemy

    7. When you're smaller you tend to lose weight slower
    8. Everyone is different
    9. I should probably stop drinking so much alcohol
    10. Running a slow pace jog is better than long distance

    FIFY

    As far as #8...yes, everyone is different, but when it comes to weight loss, a calorie deficit is what everyone needs. If you aren't losing, you need to eat less. If you think you're eating very low calorie and still not losing, try a food scale and figure out how many calories you're truly eating.

    Thanks, I burn about 400-600 calories when I work out and my calorie counter is set at 1200 a day for weightloss. I know it's low but I try to factor in that I'm probably off by how many calories are actually in what I cook/eat.

    What kind of workout are you doing? And for how long? Do you eat back those calories? I'm close to the same size as you, and it's very difficult for me to burn that much per workout. If you're over estimating calorie burns and eating back those calories, it could be a part of your problem.

    I've been following the Nike training club get toned program. I lift and do body weight training and the program adds cardio. On the days that I don't do cardio the estimate is closer to 200 calories burned per workout. I add my exercises into my fitness pal to adjust for the food calories i track. For example, yesterday I jogged 6 miles and did a 30 minute lifting workout. I burned around 500 calories and my food calories intake was about 1567, so once I subtracted the 500 caloriest tht left me at 1167-1200. Which is still a pretty low calorie intake. I also have my apple health synced to the Nike running app and my fitness pal app to try and avoiding over compensating
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Please ignore this ..it's rude and wrong

    People come here to lose weight, gain weight, maintain weight, achieve specific fitness goals and argue the toss with a bunch of strangers
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    you'd be surprised.

    You're probably right. I want to lose some vanity pounds also, like 20 to be exact. But (and clearly this is just me) I'll feel sort of bad complaining about my weight to someone who is morbidly obese or lets say has 100 pounds to lose. That was my point. I guess that's my issue. I get easily annoyed with the whole "I only have 4 pack abs but really want 6, can you fat people help me". mentatlity. That's all. Maybe I'm crazy.

    Why should you. We are all different and some people let them self go farther away than others. So I think you do have a interesting way of thinking about this.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    kaimana46 wrote: »
    1. Interval training is key
    2. Not eating enough can slow your metabolism

    3. Crash diets don't work
    4. Planks are better than crunches
    5. Muscle weights more than fat
    6. Scales can be the enemy

    7. When you're smaller you tend to lose weight slower
    8. Everyone is different
    9. I should probably stop drinking so much alcohol
    10. Running a slow pace jog is better than long distance

    FIFY

    As far as #8...yes, everyone is different, but when it comes to weight loss, a calorie deficit is what everyone needs. If you aren't losing, you need to eat less. If you think you're eating very low calorie and still not losing, try a food scale and figure out how many calories you're truly eating.

    Thanks, I burn about 400-600 calories when I work out and my calorie counter is set at 1200 a day for weightloss. I know it's low but I try to factor in that I'm probably off by how many calories are actually in what I cook/eat.

    I think your burn might be overestimated. What are you doing?
  • amandarunning
    amandarunning Posts: 306 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    It sits fine with me. It's all relative and if the OP needs advice for 2lbs or 200lbs who are we (ok, you!) to say that's not legitimate?!
  • JSurita2
    JSurita2 Posts: 1,304 Member
    edited February 2015
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    you'd be surprised.

    You're probably right. I want to lose some vanity pounds also, like 20 to be exact. But (and clearly this is just me) I'll feel sort of bad complaining about my weight to someone who is morbidly obese or lets say has 100 pounds to lose. That was my point. I guess that's my issue. I get easily annoyed with the whole "I only have 4 pack abs but really want 6, can you fat people help me". mentatlity. That's all. Maybe I'm crazy.

    Why should you. We are all different and some people let them self go farther away than others. So I think you do have a interesting way of thinking about this.

    Thanks. To me it's like telling someone who's lost their job and foreclosed on their home how angry you are that you didn't get a big enough bonus to buy your college kid a new car. Sure it's a true concern for that person who really wanted to buy the car, but the guy out in the street who lost his home doesn't want to hear it.

    Anyway, I'm sorry for coming across so abrasive and if I offended anyone. But I'm NOT sorry for how I feel, just sorry I expressed it here.
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