What am I missing? Tell me something I don't know

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  • jessupbrady
    jessupbrady Posts: 508 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    You're probably right. I want to lose some vanity pounds also, like 20 to be exact. But (and clearly this is just me) I'll feel sort of bad complaining about my weight to someone who is morbidly obese or lets say has 100 pounds to lose. That was my point. I guess that's my issue. I get easily annoyed with the whole "I only have 4 pack abs but really want 6, can you fat people help me". mentatlity. That's all. Maybe I'm crazy.

    There are a few flaws with this;
    1) There are some folks who have achieved their goals and share their success. You are not just asking folks who have not achieved what you have.
    2) You deserve answers too (This one is most important)
    3) Those that are struggling with a greater weight loss need to know they are not alone, even if it is someone struggling with that last few pounds.
    4) If you ask the question and get your answer, then someone who is not where you are might see your question when they do get there and be able to learn what worked for you.

    We are all here together; hopefully to the benefit of each other.
  • rabbitjb wrote: »
    kaimana46 wrote: »
    1. Interval training is key
    2. Not eating enough can slow your metabolism

    3. Crash diets don't work
    4. Planks are better than crunches
    5. Muscle weights more than fat
    6. Scales can be the enemy

    7. When you're smaller you tend to lose weight slower
    8. Everyone is different
    9. I should probably stop drinking so much alcohol
    10. Running a slow pace jog is better than long distance

    FIFY

    As far as #8...yes, everyone is different, but when it comes to weight loss, a calorie deficit is what everyone needs. If you aren't losing, you need to eat less. If you think you're eating very low calorie and still not losing, try a food scale and figure out how many calories you're truly eating.

    Thanks, I burn about 400-600 calories when I work out and my calorie counter is set at 1200 a day for weightloss. I know it's low but I try to factor in that I'm probably off by how many calories are actually in what I cook/eat.

    I think your burn might be overestimated. What are you doing?

    I've been following the Nike training club get toned 4 week program. I lift and do body weight training and the program adds cardio. Im on week 4 but was basically doing it two weeks previously, the program just helped me stay on track. On the days that I don't do cardio the estimate is closer to 200 calories burned per workout. I add my exercises into my fitness pal to adjust for the food calories i track. For example, yesterday I jogged 6 miles and did a 30 minute lifting workout. I burned around 500 calories and my food calories intake was about 1567, so once I subtracted the 500 caloriest tht left me at 1167-1200 (still taking into account that I may have burned less and ate more) Which is still a pretty low calorie intake. I also have my apple health synced to the Nike running app and my fitness pal app to try and avoiding over compensating.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    you'd be surprised.

    You're probably right. I want to lose some vanity pounds also, like 20 to be exact. But (and clearly this is just me) I'll feel sort of bad complaining about my weight to someone who is morbidly obese or lets say has 100 pounds to lose. That was my point. I guess that's my issue. I get easily annoyed with the whole "I only have 4 pack abs but really want 6, can you fat people help me". mentatlity. That's all. Maybe I'm crazy.

    Why should you. We are all different and some people let them self go farther away than others. So I think you do have a interesting way of thinking about this.

    Thanks. To me it's like telling someone who's lost their job and foreclosed on their home how angry you are that you didn't get a big enough bonus to buy your college kid a new car. Sure it's a true concern for that person who really wanted to buy the car, but the guy out in the street who lost his home doesn't want to hear it.

    Anyway, I'm sorry for coming across so abrasive and if I offended anyone. But I'm NOT sorry for how I feel, just sorry I expressed it here.

    Now that is a different situation and dbag move to complain being the second guy. If you are using this analogy to compare weight loss I get it now.
  • jessupbrady
    jessupbrady Posts: 508 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Thanks. To me it's like telling someone who's lost their job and foreclosed on their home how angry you are that you didn't get a big enough bonus to buy your college kid a new car. Sure it's a true concern for that person who really wanted to buy the car, but the guy out in the street who lost his home doesn't want to hear it.

    Anyway, I'm sorry for coming across so abrasive and if I offended anyone. But I'm NOT sorry for how I feel, just sorry I expressed it here.

    No need to feel sorry; I get where you are coming from.
    I just want you to know that how you feel is just as important as how the OP feels.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    edited February 2015
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    you'd be surprised.

    You're probably right. I want to lose some vanity pounds also, like 20 to be exact. But (and clearly this is just me) I'll feel sort of bad complaining about my weight to someone who is morbidly obese or lets say has 100 pounds to lose. That was my point. I guess that's my issue. I get easily annoyed with the whole "I only have 4 pack abs but really want 6, can you fat people help me". mentatlity. That's all. Maybe I'm crazy.

    Why should you. We are all different and some people let them self go farther away than others. So I think you do have a interesting way of thinking about this.

    Thanks. To me it's like telling someone who's lost their job and foreclosed on their home how angry you are that you didn't get a big enough bonus to buy your college kid a new car. Sure it's a true concern for that person who really wanted to buy the car, but the guy out in the street who lost his home doesn't want to hear it.

    Anyway, I'm sorry for coming across so abrasive and if I offended anyone. But I'm NOT sorry for how I feel, just sorry I expressed it here.


    Everyone has different goals. People are here to lose 300 lbs, 3lbs, maintain and gain. It's not all about you. In fact, this thread isn't about you at all. If someone needs helping dropping vanity pounds, they have every right to ask for advice and opinions.


    To the OP: Opening your diary would help people give you better advice.
  • JSurita2
    JSurita2 Posts: 1,304 Member
    edited February 2015
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    you'd be surprised.

    You're probably right. I want to lose some vanity pounds also, like 20 to be exact. But (and clearly this is just me) I'll feel sort of bad complaining about my weight to someone who is morbidly obese or lets say has 100 pounds to lose. That was my point. I guess that's my issue. I get easily annoyed with the whole "I only have 4 pack abs but really want 6, can you fat people help me". mentatlity. That's all. Maybe I'm crazy.

    Why should you. We are all different and some people let them self go farther away than others. So I think you do have a interesting way of thinking about this.

    Thanks. To me it's like telling someone who's lost their job and foreclosed on their home how angry you are that you didn't get a big enough bonus to buy your college kid a new car. Sure it's a true concern for that person who really wanted to buy the car, but the guy out in the street who lost his home doesn't want to hear it.

    Anyway, I'm sorry for coming across so abrasive and if I offended anyone. But I'm NOT sorry for how I feel, just sorry I expressed it here.


    Everyone has different goals. People are here to lose 300 lbs, 3lbs, maintain and gain. It's not all about you. In fact, this thread isn't about you at all. If someone needs helping dropping vanity pounds, they have every right to ask for advice and opinions.


    To the OP: Opening your diary would help people give you better advice.

    I KNOW this thread is not about me. I wasn't trying to make it about me. I said what I felt like saying, regret doing it, and now I'm done here.

    Carry on with all your expert advice. I'm out!
  • As a fellow alcohol lover (wine is my weakness), I am guessing your stomach not being flat is probably due to the alcohol consumption. I can't even lose weight unless I stop drinking wine, let alone get a flat stomach. Alcohol does have a tendency to cause a flabby stomach - don't know why, but the idea of a "beer belly" is not just a myth. Try not drinking for a week or two and see if that makes the difference in your tummy area. Just a suggestion. I know from whereof I speak! ;-)
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    What a funny thing to say.

    Vanity pounds!?? Oh dear.

    Um....don't know what to say.

    I weigh 127lb and would like to lose a tiny bit more fat and add a bit more muscle so I can get EVEN fitter. Am I allowed? Lol!

  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    What a funny thing to say.

    Vanity pounds!?? Oh dear.

    Um....don't know what to say.

    I weigh 127lb and would like to lose a tiny bit more fat and add a bit more muscle so I can get EVEN fitter. Am I allowed? Lol!

    If you are not single that person is wondering Why?
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    you'd be surprised.

    You're probably right. I want to lose some vanity pounds also, like 20 to be exact. But (and clearly this is just me) I'll feel sort of bad complaining about my weight to someone who is morbidly obese or lets say has 100 pounds to lose. That was my point. I guess that's my issue. I get easily annoyed with the whole "I only have 4 pack abs but really want 6, can you fat people help me". mentatlity. That's all. Maybe I'm crazy.

    I think it's more like jealousy. People work really really hard to be slim and fit, they deserve to improve even more and able to enjoy it without feeling guilty about the ones who didn't work as hard. Life's tough! Be humble.

  • maxit
    maxit Posts: 880 Member
    kaimana46 wrote: »

    1. Interval training is key
    2. Not eating enough can slow your metabolism
    3. Crash diets don't work
    4. Planks are better than crunches
    5. Muscle weights more than fat
    6. Scales can be the enemy
    7. When you're smaller you tend to lose weight slower
    8. Everyone is different
    9. I should probably stop drinking so much alcohol
    10. Running a slow pace jog is better than long distance

    I like your list actually. Interval training does seem to have positive effects both in calorie burn and cardiovascular fitness. There is metabolic adaptation that happens with extreme diets. Crash diets may "work" in the short term but are impossible to sustain and be healthy. Planks activate the core and so may be "better" than crunches in that respect. The anti "muscle weighs more than fat" crowd continuously miss the point of that which is that a pound of muscle takes up less room than a pound of fat. Weight data vary over a week in response to a number of factors that have nothing to do with fat gain or loss. Smaller people burn fewer calories doing the equivalent activity of larger people. Everyone IS different. Alcohol reduction equals both calorie reduction, for sure as well as (often) better judgment about lots of things. I know nothing about relative merits of short vs. long bouts of running other than what I read about intervals so *shrugs.*

    My advice is to keep doing everything you are doing currently but consume less (or even no) alcohol for a month (that long, because of how your hormonal cycle affects scale numbers) and see what happens.
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  • SergeantSausage
    SergeantSausage Posts: 1,673 Member
    Start with questioning everything on your what you think you know list.

    HINT: You don't know Jack.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    The list is pretty much ALL wrong. Hence the lack of progress.
    Just create a deficit OP, get accurate with your food weighing and calorie burns, and weigh yourself every day and average every 7. Read loads of posts, take advice from prolific posters who look fit.
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Here's something else you clearly don’t know.
    You’re coming into a message board where there are tons of people with legitimate weight problems and you’re complaining about a few “vanity” pounds. Really? That’s not going to sit well with a lot of people.

    Isn't that why we all came here. To get motivation to lose "vanity" pounds? Whether that be 2 or 100? Do you expect people to come here who need to lose 100 get to 98 and say oh, well the last 2 are just in vain anyway and give up?

    No, I don't expect anything. If someone loses 98 pounds and are down to those last 2, I'm pretty sure they're not coming in here trying to figure out how to lose them. If they lost 98 pounds, they clearly know how they did it.

    you'd be surprised.

    You're probably right. I want to lose some vanity pounds also, like 20 to be exact. But (and clearly this is just me) I'll feel sort of bad complaining about my weight to someone who is morbidly obese or lets say has 100 pounds to lose. That was my point. I guess that's my issue. I get easily annoyed with the whole "I only have 4 pack abs but really want 6, can you fat people help me". mentatlity. That's all. Maybe I'm crazy.

    Well there's your problem. You're assuming people trying to lose vanity pounds are specifically asking 'fat people' for help. They're not.

    Just like the morbidly obese, the obese, and the overweight people on here, they're hoping someone who knows what's what (and has probably successfully done what they're trying to do) will have some useful advice.

    There are a good number of people who have already been successful on here willing to give advice.
  • stsanche
    stsanche Posts: 27 Member
    edited February 2015
    I couldn't keep reading after "Ethiopian".
  • I'll preface again. I do feel like I'm making progress and I feel like I do look better in the mirror. I guess since the whole muscle weighs more than weight was put on blast I'll retract that. I'm just wondering if i feel like I'm stronger and getting in shape, why I'm not losing weight when I wasn't working out or monitoring my food and seemed to drop pounds? Especially when a year ago I was 15 lbs lighter and in my thinner state I couldn't even run 8 miles. Maybe it's the plateau effect but I honestly do feel like I'm making progress, just not as much as I was expecting.
  • beemerphile1
    beemerphile1 Posts: 1,710 Member
    kaimana46 wrote: »
    I'll preface again. I do feel like I'm making progress and I feel like I do look better in the mirror. I guess since the whole muscle weighs more than weight was put on blast I'll retract that. I'm just wondering if i feel like I'm stronger and getting in shape, why I'm not losing weight when I wasn't working out or monitoring my food and seemed to drop pounds? Especially when a year ago I was 15 lbs lighter and in my thinner state I couldn't even run 8 miles. Maybe it's the plateau effect but I honestly do feel like I'm making progress, just not as much as I was expecting.

    You are most likely eating more calories than you realize.

  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    kaimana46 wrote: »
    I'll preface again. I do feel like I'm making progress and I feel like I do look better in the mirror. I guess since the whole muscle weighs more than weight was put on blast I'll retract that. I'm just wondering if i feel like I'm stronger and getting in shape, why I'm not losing weight when I wasn't working out or monitoring my food and seemed to drop pounds? Especially when a year ago I was 15 lbs lighter and in my thinner state I couldn't even run 8 miles. Maybe it's the plateau effect but I honestly do feel like I'm making progress, just not as much as I was expecting.

    You can't really equate thinness with strength and fitness. When you weren't working out you couldn't run 8 miles because you hadn't worked up the endurance to do so. Someone who is 115lbs and doesn't run isn't likely to be able to outrun someone who is 130 and runs regularly.

  • franola12
    franola12 Posts: 45 Member
    I realized when I was 13 that I'd have to watch my weight forever. That's life. I watched what happened to family members who didn't. Part of what I do may be attributed to vanity, but most of it is about being healthy, which I think is a reasonable goal.
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