Restrictive meal plan from PT
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This is the kind of cookie cutter diet that bodybuilders and fitness models use to cut pre-competition. Would it work, definitely? But will you be able to stick to it? What works best for long term weight loss is a diet that you can stick to. This kind of diet for the majority of the population is unsustainable but also completely unnecessary. Figure out how much you should be eating to lose weight and what ratio of macronutrients you need and then eat foods that meet these requirements.
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Basically what happens on this plan if you decide to eat out or you don't have x food in the house. What happens if you crave some chocolate. IMHO a good meal plan should have some in-built flexibility with substitutions and room for treats. It has to be something you can stick to for life otherwise you'll lose weight, go back to eating the way you were before and gain it all back (and likely more).0 -
Did you try it? I don't think I could do it either. There are zero carbs in that diet except for oatmeal and that is very very little- that would make me absolutely miserable.0
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That looks just miserable.
Go enjoy your workouts with him and do your own thing diet wise. A small deficit, sensible macro split and the occasional treat would be better IMO.0 -
Meals 1 and 2 would probably make me vomit.0
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When I've used PTs, I've gone to a separate nutritionist / dietian. Basically go to each person for their own specialty. Let each know about the other. The nutritionist needs to know about your workouts for an appropriate calorie requirement. The best situation is if they work with each other and you. The diet above is something, I personally would never stick to, so whether it is good or bad, it's useless if I don't stick with it.0
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I don't do anything diet-wise that I wouldn't be happy to continue indefinitely since I am of the opinion that if I set an 'end date' I will probably just gain weight back after that. This plan will probably work for now, but will it work long-term?
Plus it's a lot easier to make changes one step at a time. I started by drinking mainly water. Once that became something I didn't have to think about anymore, I added more vegetables. Slowly but surely my diet is getting a whole lot healthier and I am losing weight. And I still get to eat chocolate every so often.
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How much experience does your PT have working with the obese? Can he provide references from clients who are or were obese who had good results from his methods?
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And that's on the exercise side. IMHO a lot of PTs are just full of absolute CRAP information when it comes to nutrition, even for non-obese clients. ...
Conclusion: your PT is a bro, has clearly not taken any time to think about what is going to work FOR YOU, and is trying to shoehorn you into the same plan he gives everyone.
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. Hmm ...anything I can add .. thinking ... Nope. You NEED enough calories for energy for getting through the day, doing you job and housework and repairs and kids and not getting dizzy while driving.
I am just wondering what the heck else he has suggested in terms of exercise and lifestyle. I would tend to drop that person.
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I agree this is more like the diet followed by girls training for fitness model comps who do not have a lot of weight to lose but just have to get shredded. You might consider working with a PT who has prior experience in training people who had similar needs as yours. Most PTs think weight loss is the easiest thing to achieve and completely ignore the psychological aspects involved. If you do not like the diet , you will most likely not stick to it and then the PT will blame you for "lack of determination'. Don't get into this cycle. Talk to your PT , see if they offer a solution. If they just give you the lecture on discipline , start looking for another PT.0
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Time to ditch the food part of the training. If the trainer cannot handle your decision to do what is best for you. Find a better one.0
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That looks like a recipe for disaster .. like has been said, just eat at a deficit and you will be fine. Unless there is some crazy rush that we do not know about .. it is just not a good idea and definitely not maintainable. It is about eating food that you can live with. That looks like torture.0
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workoutgrl87 wrote: »My two cents... as a personal trainer myself. Personal trainers are not registered dieticians. Unless they are also a RD, it is outside of our scope of practice to provide meal plans, which means you are basically taking joe schmoe's advice on how to eat.
As a trainer we are trained to correct form and technique and create fitness programs (this could also be debated depending on the certification.... but that's a whole different topic) nutrition IS something that they would have a very small background on IF they have a degree in exercise science. If they just took the weekend training... or an online training course then there's no guarantee that there was any nutrition classes. However, meal planning is still way outside of what we are trained to do.
For my clients I tell them flat out, I am not an RD therefore I cannot provide you with meal planning. I can make suggestions on how to tweak your diet, and you are welcome to bring in a food diary and have me look through it. But I cannot, nor will I ever give you a written out plan for food.
Personally, I would find an RD to work with in conjunction with your PT if you are looking for a meal plan. Otherwise, work with your TDEE and pay attention to your macros. The plan that they gave you is not something that I could follow myself. Not only because it's just not enough food, but because it's so outside of what my husband would eat that I'd have to make two separate dinners for us, and I ain't got time for that!
PREACH! I'm studying to be an RD and thinking about working with PTs in this capacity (IE, get referrals for questions that are nutrition related). There are some meal plans out there that are RD certified, try blogilates for one that is about 1500 calories/day. PM me if you want to chat!0 -
Sounds like the "everyone should eat this way" diet from a broscience PT.
My advice: Eat 500 calories under your TDEE. Have a macro split of 40/30/30 and just hit it hard in the gym each time.
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Your PT can not be followed ever. You can not continue it even a weak. To lose your weigh you should join a fitness club first and then you should consult to a dietitian for a proper diet plan that can help you.0
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I also started out as super obese with 200 lbs to lose… and that eating plan sounds horrible to me. I would never be able to stick with that. If that's the kind of food you like… fine. But, it's completely unnecessary to lose weight. Eat a variety of foods that you like within a moderate calorie deficit (Use MFP's recommendations, or figure out your own from IIFYM or a similar site). Personally, I avoid PTs who give nutrition/diet advice. With few exceptions they know no more about nutrition than what they would have learned in their high school health class and they usually have their own agenda that has nothing to do with your goals. The trainer that I am working with now has given me the best diet (using the broad definition of eating plan) advice of anybody I've found. He knows my goal is to lose weight… so he told me that 90% of that would be done in the kitchen and he suggested I use MFP.0
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One benefit to this kind of a diet is that you will lose your carb cravings rather quickly, if that is an issue for you. One person mentioned as long as you limit calories you can eat whatever you want. While that may be mathematically accurate, I would not consider it as actual advice. I consider MFP to be a tool to help me change my lifestyle for healthy living. I personally make a smoothie most mornings with protein powder, greens, fruit, and coconut water kefir. I also take a number of supplements, including fish oil, chlorella, spirulina, and many others. This is MY choice as a vegetarian with a number of food intolerances and under the guidance of my doctor. I feel good about it, but would probably have completely rebelled a year ago if someone had told me I had to. I started slowly and made one healthier choice at a time as I felt comfortable doing so.0
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Im really surprised hoe many peopke have said 150g of protein is alot. That's only 6 oz! I can EASILY eat that, and actually consider it to be a relatively small portion.0
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Im really surprised hoe many peopke have said 150g of protein is alot. That's only 6 oz! I can EASILY eat that, and actually consider it to be a relatively small portion.
I am not aware of any foods that contain anywhere near 150 grams of protein in only 6 oz's? I think you might have to re-evaluate how you calculate your protein intake.0 -
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Have you tried the 4:3 diet? Or the 5:2? Intermittent fasting is the way to go!
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What does this hack have against egg yolks? Omega 3's from fish oil is okay but omega 3's from eggs are not?
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Im really surprised hoe many peopke have said 150g of protein is alot. That's only 6 oz! I can EASILY eat that, and actually consider it to be a relatively small portion.
I am not aware of any foods that contain anywhere near 150 grams of protein in only 6 oz's? I think you might have to re-evaluate how you calculate your protein intake.
Ummm..... 150grams of protein IS only about 6 ounces of protein. If using 150g of chicken breast that's only 248 calories and 47 grams of protein (if weighed after cooked).
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