Are cravings nutritional deficiencies?

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  • shaumom
    shaumom Posts: 1,003 Member
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    As my nutritionist tells me, cravings can sometimes be due to nutrients we need, but actually hunger can be due to that as well. But we've got some natural cravings built in to the human species, for fat and sweet tastes, which kind of makes sense when you realize that both of those are full of calories and we want to have something that encourages us to eat more of those.

    Well, we don't need it now, but a few thousand years ago, maybe. :-)

    From a few animal studies, and a couple poorly done human studies, it seems that the body gets pretty good at associating tastes and smells with various nutrients IF they are distinct. Which they usually aren't, for most foods now. Like right now, we can have bread that can have a huge variance in what nutrients we get out of it, so our body gets one set of signals (scent and taste) but not the same results every time.

    But when people and animals alter food habits so they are getting one ingredient at a time, or only a few mixed together, they seem to start to be able to, well, sort of 'figure it out' a bit better. Makes sense, if the body has one set of nutritional payoff associated with one scent and taste, I'd think.

    I actually had to have a hugely restricted diet for medical reasons and I started growing my own herbs (couldn't used bought spices). I used to get the worse cravings for some of these, sometimes, just wanted handfuls of one herb or another. When we went back and started looking over the diet, it turned out that I was usually low in certain nutrients on these days, and the herbs I craved were high in those same nutrients. It was really kind of cool to see, honestly.
  • nesian_twin
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    They can be but if I crave chocolate, my body doesnt need chocolate, it probably needs fruit. A lot of my cravings are mental thoughts only, not always a physical need. I can tell the difference now, have learnt to "listen" to my body.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited February 2015
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    I'm going to go with maybe. I think that possibly it might have been when I was craving oranges and grapefruit, but I'm going to go with a firm no for that potato chip craving the other week.
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
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    I dunno, it depends. When I'm stressed I crave specific binge friendly foods, but unless I'm fat deficient.... Or possibly fat and calcium deficient? I binge on Kraft singles too often. Also bread-y things.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 24,914 Member
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    Why do we get cravings? Are they really nutritional deficiencies? If so, why can we crave the same food for days?

    Cravings can indicate nutritional deficiencies ... but they might not be straightforward and obvious.

    You might crave chocolate ... but what you really need is something to raise your blood sugar level, and a mango or chicken sandwich will do the trick just as well.

    For some time now, I've been craving potato chips, french fries, and all sorts of greasy salty food. I started tracking my calories here 10 days ago, and the most interesting thing I discovered is that my diet (heavy in fresh fruit, veg, and whole grains) is very light on salt. I struggle to reach half the daily recommended value. I started salting my veg and whole grains, and even taking electrolyte tablets on days of heavier exercise, and although I'm still not at my daily recommended value, I'm closer ... and my cravings for greasy salty food have pretty much disappeared.

  • gmallan
    gmallan Posts: 2,099 Member
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    @Machka9 my diet is pretty "clean" (for want of a better word) and I add salt to pretty much everything. I've been told to by my trainers before because I cramp up a lot playing sport. If you don't eat much processed food then sodium is something you need to watch
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,459 Member
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    shaumom wrote: »
    As my nutritionist tells me, cravings can sometimes be due to nutrients we need, but actually hunger can be due to that as well. But we've got some natural cravings built in to the human species, for fat and sweet tastes, which kind of makes sense when you realize that both of those are full of calories and we want to have something that encourages us to eat more of those.

    Well, we don't need it now, but a few thousand years ago, maybe. :-)

    From a few animal studies, and a couple poorly done human studies, it seems that the body gets pretty good at associating tastes and smells with various nutrients IF they are distinct. Which they usually aren't, for most foods now. Like right now, we can have bread that can have a huge variance in what nutrients we get out of it, so our body gets one set of signals (scent and taste) but not the same results every time.

    But when people and animals alter food habits so they are getting one ingredient at a time, or only a few mixed together, they seem to start to be able to, well, sort of 'figure it out' a bit better. Makes sense, if the body has one set of nutritional payoff associated with one scent and taste, I'd think.

    I actually had to have a hugely restricted diet for medical reasons and I started growing my own herbs (couldn't used bought spices). I used to get the worse cravings for some of these, sometimes, just wanted handfuls of one herb or another. When we went back and started looking over the diet, it turned out that I was usually low in certain nutrients on these days, and the herbs I craved were high in those same nutrients. It was really kind of cool to see, honestly.

    Very interesting post.
  • mrsmuckster
    mrsmuckster Posts: 444 Member
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    "They say you're deficient in Magnesium if you crave chocolate. I get more than enough magnesium and still "crave", or it could be feel like chocolate. "

    Interestingly this past week, I was having chocolate cravings, and also having charley horses in my legs at night. I started taking magnesium before I went to bed and both went away :)
  • Jolinia
    Jolinia Posts: 846 Member
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    I don't think it's mostly built in, I think you train your brain what to crave by what you eat. At one point I was taking a liquid multivitamin that looked like bottled swamp water. It tasted gross. At first I could barely get it down. The rest of my diet was really poor, I was eating college cafeteria food, gas station food, and working myself to death. After awhile I got to where I woke up craving that vitamin goop every day. I think it's because it was by far the best source of nutrients I was consuming.
  • ruqayyahsmum
    ruqayyahsmum Posts: 1,514 Member
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    i have several deficiencys diagnosed via blood work, cant say i get any cravings thou
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,874 Member
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    Not usually....pretty sure when someone is craving a cooky it's not because they're sugar deficient.
  • ruqayyahsmum
    ruqayyahsmum Posts: 1,514 Member
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    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Not usually....pretty sure when someone is craving a cooky it's not because they're sugar deficient.

    so im not alcohol deficient? damn

  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    I also think that outside of rare circumstances a craving tends to be more psychological or habit driven. When I first started this I'd crave something (what it was would vary) in mid afternoon and sometimes in mid morning, since I'd been used to eating then. I either ignored it or forced myself to eat something else then, like carrots or a few nuts, and it quickly went away after a few days. Occasionally if I know something I like is coming for lunch at work or someone has brought a particularly tempting snack for the break room I'll crave that.

    On the other hand, I'm on vacation in a hot climate right now (it's quite early in the morning) and I have found myself craving fruit (which I like at any time) much more than usual. Part of this is obviously that much better fruit than I have had access to in the winter in Chicago has been available, so it's just delicious and tempting, but I know I also crave fruit when I'm thirsty, as it's juicy. So not really a nutritional deficiency, but along the same lines.

    I am skeptical of the nutritional deficiency thing, however, as I'm MUCH more likely to crave fruits and veggies when I'm in the habit of eating them than when I'm not (and in theory would be more likely to be deficient). Years ago before I had the habit of eating veggies I rarely craved them and now I often do.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    I also think that outside of rare circumstances a craving tends to be more psychological or habit driven. When I first started this I'd crave something (what it was would vary) in mid afternoon and sometimes in mid morning, since I'd been used to eating then. I either ignored it or forced myself to eat something else then, like carrots or a few nuts, and it quickly went away after a few days. Occasionally if I know something I like is coming for lunch at work or someone has brought a particularly tempting snack for the break room I'll crave that.

    On the other hand, I'm on vacation in a hot climate right now (it's quite early in the morning) and I have found myself craving fruit (which I like at any time) much more than usual. Part of this is obviously that much better fruit than I have had access to in the winter in Chicago has been available, so it's just delicious and tempting, but I know I also crave fruit when I'm thirsty, as it's juicy. So not really a nutritional deficiency, but along the same lines.

    I am skeptical of the nutritional deficiency thing, however, as I'm MUCH more likely to crave fruits and veggies when I'm in the habit of eating them than when I'm not (and in theory would be more likely to be deficient). Years ago before I had the habit of eating veggies I rarely craved them and now I often do.
    THIS ^^