Confused on caloric intake to lose 2lbs/wk - please help

TXHunny84
TXHunny84 Posts: 503 Member
edited September 27 in Food and Nutrition
Ok...here's my story... I'm about to be 27 and I'm 149lbs and 5'5". I am trying to be 135 pounds so I need to lose 14 pounds. All my life I have Yo-yo dieted to lose weight. Way over exercised to lose weight and I have even starved my self for 3-4 days at a time to lose. My weight always goes up and down because obviously I'm losing weight the wrong way and probably a lot is just water. I want to lose my excess fat once and for all with out yo-yoing and really learn to eat and exercise right to keep it off for good!! I also have two little girls that I don't want to have the same problems with weight like I do. I want to lead by example on how to eat correctly to not gain and how to lose weight the right way. I did my BMR and it came out like this:
655+(4.35 x 149) +(4.7 x 65") - (4.7 x 27) = 1481.75.... I have a sedintary life style I guess because I sit at a desk all day a work(mostly) so my caloric intake I'm assuming is 1481.75 x 1.2 = 1778.1.

Ok so here is my question(dilemma)......

How many calories am I supposed to eat out to lose 2 pounds a week?... The internet says to decrease calories by 500 and increase my work outs by 500 calories a day. So ....do I subtract 500 calories from the 1778?....Because then I'm only consuming 1278 calories and that is below my BMR?... And if I burn 500 calories on my treadmill then my Net calories would be 778 for the day... I don't want to put my body in starvation mode. Plus I walk an hour on my treadmill everyday for an hour already. So since my body is probably used to this does it still count as calories burned...or is this now just part of my daily routine and I would have to do even more to lose weight? On livestrong.com it even says to count the "office work" I do as calories burned too, but wouldn't my body be used to doing that daily also?...

I'm just really confused as to what my actual Net calories per day should be so I can lose 2 pounds(or more) a week.

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  • staciekins
    staciekins Posts: 453 Member
    When you only have 14 to lose, 2 lbs a week is very unrealistic. Only those who are obese will lose that quickly. You should probably shoot for .5-1 lb/week.
  • mlemonroe2
    mlemonroe2 Posts: 603
    When you made your profile on myfitnesspal did you put you want to lose 2 pounds a week? It should have told you what your calorie intake should be to lose that much weight. If you exercise, you are suposed to eat those calories back so your body dosn't go into starvation mode. That is how this website is set up.
  • JMJohnson1005
    JMJohnson1005 Posts: 209 Member
    With such little weight you have to lose you should not try to lose 2 lbs a week. I think 1/2 lbs a week is more resonalbe.
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    Just posted this in your other post.

    Since you're so close to your goal you probably won't be able to lose 2 pounds per week. When you have less to lose it comes off slower. That's because your body uses both fat and muscle for energy and your body will use whichever one is closest to the area that needs the energy. So if you're working your legs but don't have enough extra fat to burn your body will burn a little leg muscle. That's why strength training is so important, it helps keep your muscles from losing mass. This also means that you can spot reduce a little. So if your belly has more fat than you'd like you can do lots of ab work to burn that fat. You also need to eat a little more, the amount you'd eat if you were trying to lose half a pound per week, so that your body continues to burn fat and not muscle.
  • bethvandenberg
    bethvandenberg Posts: 1,496 Member
    I'd eat 1500 cals a day and eat back some of your exercise cals per time. You can eat them all if your body is telling you you're hungry. I think they set things too low on here. I'm guessing you aren't really sedentary and you have kids and probably do a lot more than you're thinking of. Try the 1500 for a couple of weeks and let your body get used to it. The way you've yo yo'd you're going to have to let your body know you're serious.

    I went way to low before and paid for it. I think that you'll be fine. It may take a little longer to lose the 14 lbs than you'd like but hey, it'll go away and you'll lose some inches from exercise and you'll be much happier. :)

    Hang in there. Good luck.
  • Tree72
    Tree72 Posts: 942 Member
    You are probably going to hear this a lot, but since you are in a healthy BMI range it will be very difficult to attain or maintain a 2-pound-a-week loss. It would be much more realistic to aim for half a pound a week. Please take a look at this topic for a much more detailed explanation:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/12250-1000-calorie-deficit-not-for-people-with-healthy-bmi

    Good luck on your journey and figuring out how to reach your healthy goals. It can definitely be confusing, but you can do it. :smile:
  • 2 lbs/wk = -1000 kcal per day, which is a net surplus of 778 calories. That's obviously not good.
    -That means you eat 1780 - 500 = 1280 kcal per day
    -You workout 500 kcal worth per day (things BEYOND the activities described in your BMR calculation)

    "So since my body is probably used to this does it still count as calories burned...or is this now just part of my daily routine and I would have to do even more to lose weight? "
    -Anything beyond what's calculated for your BMR (including office work) is counted as exercise. Don't count 'walking around the office doing paperwork' as anything more, since you do it every day. However, if you keep your BMR the same, but add on taking the stairs, that can count towards your daily burn.

    Be careful when aiming for weight loss beyond 1lb/week because your body needs 1200 kcal+/day to function and do it's thing...
  • moebruin
    moebruin Posts: 4
    The beauty of this program is it does the calculations for you. So if you just set up this website for loose two pounds a week (which by the way is considered by TOO FAST as 1 pound a week is considered optimal for a healthy lifestyle) you will have all the work done for you.

    The way it works is you get your base calories that will help you loose the two pounds a week. For each exercise calorie you do, you will get to eat an extra calorie of food and still stay on the program. The optimal stuff is telling you how much is a good exercise program but if you do the exercise you get extra calories to eat you don't loose double.

    For example if you have to reduce by 500 calories to loose your desired weight and you then exercise 500 calories. You end up not having to reduce your caloric intake at all because the exercise will be doing its job.

    Being initial calories are based on life style, I wouldn't count everyday life style things you do as exercise to get more calories.
  • RoniDoll
    RoniDoll Posts: 262
    When you only have 14 to lose, 2 lbs a week is very unrealistic. Only those who are obese will lose that quickly. You should probably shoot for .5-1 lb/week.

    What she said. exactly
  • momma3sweetgirls
    momma3sweetgirls Posts: 743 Member
    Try eating your BMR and see what happens. In my experience, the 1200 calories MFP allots is way too little even for sedentary people. I bumped mine up to just over 1500 recently and had two big losses two weeks in a row (2.5 and 2 lbs). It's OK to change your calorie allowance to suit your own activity level. Not every person fits the mathematical formula!
  • chach918
    chach918 Posts: 80 Member
    I did not read the other posts. I would suggest a total of 1200 calories a day. If you are exercising , eat 2/3 of the calories burned. Just do not over do it. burning 300 a day is more than enough. Good luck.
  • dlaplume2
    dlaplume2 Posts: 1,658 Member
    When you only have 14 to lose, 2 lbs a week is very unrealistic. Only those who are obese will lose that quickly. You should probably shoot for .5-1 lb/week.

    I agree. I think if you are trying to make lifestyle changes that are going to be permanent, you need to make changes that you can stick to and live with. I would set your goal to lose .5 lbs a week and if it takes you 28 weeks you will be much better off, espcially if you are adding execise to that mix. It may come off faster some weeks and slower others, but in the end you will be better off.
    Best wishes.
  • willimh
    willimh Posts: 227 Member
    I had some confusion with this matter as well. I will suggest you up your calorie intake as well and that way when you exercise you will end with a deficit of hopefully 1100-1200 for your net. I am trying it out as well to see how I will do. I have 80lbs to lose and it has been hard to do because I don't think I was eating enough to fuel the body. It's funny because I just went to the same sight you did which is livestrong because I had the same question you had. I am taking the advice from it and I want to see if I get results that are positive. Good luck
  • pebs120
    pebs120 Posts: 6
    I dont see 2lbs a week an issue. then again i weight more than you (185 when i started-176now.) and that was the goal i entered in on mfp. and to be honest i've been doing it. a friend of mine on here has lost 21lbs already(in 5weeks), but again she weight about the same as me, or at least she did when we started.

    When i entered in that information on here it told me that my calorie intake was 1200, i thought that strange. so when i went online i got the same asnwer you did. I cant remember the site though. Anyhow, subtract the 500. that's my point.

    You'll be where you need to be in no time. I just advise you do it the right way as apposed to the way you've done it in the past. no yoyo diets, dont starve yourself. It's not that much to lose. So just do it right.


    Good Luck ♥
  • jeffrodgers1
    jeffrodgers1 Posts: 991 Member
    Live a healthy lifestyle. That is the first and foremost thing!

    Drinking water will allow you to flush out your system, and will allow you to lose some of the water weight. Your body won't hold onto what it thinks it has in abundance. Drink your 8-10 cups of water a day.

    Secondly, Use this site as a guide to determine what your should be eating per day and stick to it.
    Yoyo dieting, fad diets, pills, starvation etc lead to metabolic suicide. You are killing your metabolism and that makes it even harder to lose the weight. Slow and steady wins the race when it comes to diet. Additionally when you sacrifice to much and deny yourself to much... you are really just setting yourself up for failure.

    I would recommend you settle in with a nice healthy goal of one pound per week (which is the recommended). Eat your calories in a well balanced meal plan, eat back your exercise calories and drink your water.

    Good Luck!
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/61706-guide-to-calorie-deficits

    try the above link, it may help you understand a little. That's why I wrote it anyway. Feel free to PM me if you have questions.
  • This is the great thing about MFP. The system does all this calculation for you!! The system calculates this based on the goals you have set in your profile. If you put in your profile how much you weigh, that you want to lose 2 lbs and that you are sedentary and how many days you expect to workout, it will give you a daily goal to lose 2 lbs. Then as you do the actual workouts and you put in how many calories your burned that day, the system adjusts UP the number of calories you can eat based on the amount you burned (that people mean when they say eat back your exercise calories)

    For example my starting calories a day are 1280 calories as I want to lose a pound a week. Then, when I workout my daily total (FOR THAT DAY ONLY) increases by 500 based on my workout so now I can eat 1780 a day and still meet my goal of a lb a week.

    And I agree with everyone else...2 lbs a week is not really doable for someone who needs to lose so little weight. When I first started the first week or 2 I lost 1.5 to 2 lbs. Then it started averaging .5 to 1 lb a week and I am working out HARD (2 hours/800 calories a day average). Some of this is because I am gaining lean muscle as I am doing P90X but some of it is my body holding on and letting go of the fat one ounce at a time :>)
  • ladyhawk00
    ladyhawk00 Posts: 2,457 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/61706-guide-to-calorie-deficits

    try the above link, it may help you understand a little. That's why I wrote it anyway. Feel free to PM me if you have questions.

    READ THIS! :happy:

    But yes, everyone saying 2 lbs is too much is correct; stick with 1/2 lb per week. With 14 lbs to lose, you won't lose 2 lbs per week, and if you did it would be mostly muscle and your metabolism would be a train wreck.
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/61706-guide-to-calorie-deficits

    try the above link, it may help you understand a little. That's why I wrote it anyway. Feel free to PM me if you have questions.

    READ THIS! :happy:

    But yes, everyone saying 2 lbs is too much is correct; stick with 1/2 lb per week. With 14 lbs to lose, you won't lose 2 lbs per week, and if you did it would be mostly muscle and your metabolism would be a train wreck.

    THIS exactly, including reading that link!
  • jonikeffer
    jonikeffer Posts: 218 Member
    You are so close to ideal weight you absolutely should not even try to lose 2 lbs a week. You are in that range of being so close to your ideal weight you would be hard pressed to lose 1/2 lb per week consistently. For every 500 cal you are under what you need in a day, you will lose 1 lb a week. But you can't just multiply that to lose 2 lbs a week, it won't work, you'll go into starvation mode and lose nothing. MFP keeps this in mind and won't set your calories below a certain amt in a day, usually 1200 for women.

    Even for myself, at 5'0" and 150 lbs, it would only let me do 1200 cals which it said would be 0.9 lbs a week (when I told it I wanted to lose 2 lbs per week)....and for my height I am considerably overweight, borderline obese. So I highly recommend you lose it slowly and correctly by following MFP's recommendations and not going below the calories it sets for you. Keep in mind that if you exercise, you want to NET the calories it tells you. You should not be doing 500 cals less food AND 500 cals of exercise for a deficit of 1000 cals per day...that is WAY too much for you.
  • PJilly
    PJilly Posts: 22,178 Member
    Ok...here's my story... I'm about to be 27 and I'm 149lbs and 5'5". I am trying to be 135 pounds so I need to lose 14 pounds. All my life I have Yo-yo dieted to lose weight. Way over exercised to lose weight and I have even starved my self for 3-4 days at a time to lose. My weight always goes up and down because obviously I'm losing weight the wrong way and probably a lot is just water. I want to lose my excess fat once and for all with out yo-yoing and really learn to eat and exercise right to keep it off for good!! I also have two little girls that I don't want to have the same problems with weight like I do. I want to lead by example on how to eat correctly to not gain and how to lose weight the right way. I did my BMR and it came out like this:
    655+(4.35 x 149) +(4.7 x 65") - (4.7 x 27) = 1481.75.... I have a sedintary life style I guess because I sit at a desk all day a work(mostly) so my caloric intake I'm assuming is 1481.75 x 1.2 = 1778.1.

    Ok so here is my question(dilemma)......

    How many calories am I supposed to eat out to lose 2 pounds a week?... The internet says to decrease calories by 500 and increase my work outs by 500 calories a day. So ....do I subtract 500 calories from the 1778?....Because then I'm only consuming 1278 calories and that is below my BMR?... And if I burn 500 calories on my treadmill then my Net calories would be 778 for the day... I don't want to put my body in starvation mode. Plus I walk an hour on my treadmill everyday for an hour already. So since my body is probably used to this does it still count as calories burned...or is this now just part of my daily routine and I would have to do even more to lose weight? On livestrong.com it even says to count the "office work" I do as calories burned too, but wouldn't my body be used to doing that daily also?...

    I'm just really confused as to what my actual Net calories per day should be so I can lose 2 pounds(or more) a week.
    I think you're definitely on the right track by acknowledging you've lost weight in the wrong way in the past and want to learn to eat right and exercise to keep it off for good. That's awesome!

    I also think you veer way off that track when you say you want to lose 2 pounds a week. I'd encourage you to aim for losing 1/2 pound a week at the most. I think even 1/4 pound a week might set you up better for long-term success.

    If you do this slowly and deliberately, I have no doubt you will have amazing results. :flowerforyou:
  • TXHunny84
    TXHunny84 Posts: 503 Member
    But if u are eating your calories back what was the point of the exercise? Aren't you trying to reduce calories and exercise more? I always hear eat less exercise more.....so why should I eat the calories I burned? I'm so confused.
  • PJilly
    PJilly Posts: 22,178 Member
    But if u are eating your calories back what was the point of the exercise? Aren't you trying to reduce calories and exercise more? I always hear eat less exercise more.....so why should I eat the calories I burned? I'm so confused.
    To me, the point of exercising is to become more strong, fit, healthy and flexible. The fact that it burns calories is incidental (except that it allows me to eat more, which is awesome!).
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
    But if u are eating your calories back what was the point of the exercise? Aren't you trying to reduce calories and exercise more? I always hear eat less exercise more.....so why should I eat the calories I burned? I'm so confused.

    because MFP already gives you a deficit built into your goals.

    Example:

    Lets just say your maintenance was 2000 a day, nice round number....eat that and stay the same....

    You tell MFP you want to lose 1 lb per week. It tells you a goal of 1500 a day (500 a day deficit=3500 a week. 1 lb of fat is 3500 calories).

    so eat 1500 a day to lose 1 lb a week. NOW, if you exercise for 500 cals more than your daily lifestyle, you have taken those cals away from your body so it can't use them as fuel. That's bad. You now only have 1000 cals left to survive on, provided you ate your whole 1500. If you eat those 500 back, you STILL gave your body the 1500 it needs to live your daily life and you STILL have a 500 calorie deficit that day, since that's what you started out at.

    Your goal is to make the number in your diary as close to zero as possible, including eating your exercise calories, provided you are not overestimating how much you burned....

    Your NET cals (on the top of your homepage) should be EQUAL to your ORIGINAL calorie goal by the time you end your day. (in this example, 1500)

    Food is fuel. Eat all your calories. Do NOT try to give yourself a bigger deficit that you already have. This will not help you to lose faster. It will hurt your metabolism and screw you up bad in the long run.
  • Just posted this in your other post.

    Since you're so close to your goal you probably won't be able to lose 2 pounds per week. When you have less to lose it comes off slower. That's because your body uses both fat and muscle for energy and your body will use whichever one is closest to the area that needs the energy. So if you're working your legs but don't have enough extra fat to burn your body will burn a little leg muscle. That's why strength training is so important, it helps keep your muscles from losing mass. This also means that you can spot reduce a little. So if your belly has more fat than you'd like you can do lots of ab work to burn that fat. You also need to eat a little more, the amount you'd eat if you were trying to lose half a pound per week, so that your body continues to burn fat and not muscle.


    You actually can't spot reduce and burn specific areas of fat on your body..

    Read here for more info on spot reduction:
    http://www.insideyourdiet.com/437/is-spot-reducing-a-myth/

    "The theory of spot reducing was tested and proven false in the mid-1980s when the University of Massachusetts conducted an independent research study based upon these principles. The study put thirteen men through a rigorous workout routine that focused on the abdominal muscles only for a period of twenty-seven days. During the test, each man performed a total of five thousand sit-ups. Fat biopsies were taken from each man’s abdomen, back, and a buttock region before, during, and after the test was completed. The results found that fat levels decreased equally in all three areas tested, not just the abdominal area."
  • solpwr
    solpwr Posts: 1,039 Member
    What Robin52077 said was awesome.

    I will add: You need to try out myfitnesspal for 12 weeks minimum. The routine of it, the learning about what works and doesn't work, the commitment level you need to meet your goal of learning to eat and live a healthy lifestyle is not going to happen in 7 weeks. That's a yo-yo right there.

    So go at it one pound per week and see how your body does. At 12 weeks along, you'll see what calories you need and what your workouts need to be like.

    Once you hit your goal, readjust myfitnesspal and keep on using it. That's my plan; I have no doubt that this is a permanent change for me. At least until my iPhone quits.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    When you only have 14 to lose, 2 lbs a week is very unrealistic. Only those who are obese will lose that quickly. You should probably shoot for .5-1 lb/week.

    What she said. exactly

    What she said about what she said. :smile:

    Aim for one pound a week max, and eat back most of your exercise calories.

    When I signed up, I wanted to lose 2# a week, too, because I just wanted it GONE. Now!

    But I wasn't overweight enough to do that. The most I could lose and still eat enough to be healthy was 1.3 pounds a week. After a few weeks on that, and losing on average 1 pound a week, I thought, "Well, if I'm only going to lose 1 pound, I might as well set it to lose 1 pound."

    So I ate more. And the next weigh in, I dropped 2 pounds. :laugh: I averaged 1.5 pounds a week while trying to lose one, and averaged one when I was trying to lose 1.5.

    When I got within 10 pounds of my goal, I changed my settings to lose .5 a week. Some weeks, I don't lose. Some I lose a half. Some 1.5. Some 1 pound. The body is a fickle thing. The weight will come off when your body wants it to. But not when you're not feeding it enough.
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