More Exercise = More Food = Weight Gain! =(

lace_444
lace_444 Posts: 4
edited November 14 in Goal: Maintaining Weight
I need your help!
I am not The Most Active Person Alive! but it appears that I eat like I am. I do gym in the mornings, short cardio and then weight training (Monday to Friday and occasionally on the wknd). I am doing a 30 Day Bikram Yoga challenge this month too. That happens in the evenings. My work is pretty stressful and I run high on adrenaline quite often.

With all of this, I have increased my protein intake and to include protein bars as snacks instead of the odd chocolate here and there, ok maybe everyday to "fight stress". The rest of the diet seems to be staying the same which is basically balanced.

My question is, how do I convince myself that I do not need that extra helping of dinner after "Such a Long Day!" Or that I will survive if I do Not eat that chocolate?

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  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    If you want it badly enough you commit to your calorie goal.
    Do that often enough and it becomes a habit.
    Once it becomes a habit you become successful.

    It starts between your ears!
    My big motivator is goals, long and short term. Yours may be different.
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,933 Member
    Sorry, I can't related to that as my hunger vanishes if I work out. Are you having breakfast before your morning workout?
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Just keep looking at your diary and see that you've eaten enough. It's great you are exercising more. Make sure you fuel it. You will carry extra water for repair. It gets kind of confusing, so keep reading the threads. All that is important is fat loss.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    lace_444 wrote: »
    My question is, how do I convince myself that I do not need that extra helping of dinner after "Such a Long Day!" Or that I will survive if I do Not eat that chocolate?

    by reminding yourself that you want to lose weight?

  • gpstreet
    gpstreet Posts: 184 Member
    For me it is about payback. I monitor calorie intake as much as I can. Usually I am quite careful but sometimes I go over the daily allowance. This means I need to go for a run. Ask yourself is that extra dinner worth the exercise that you have to do to stay within daily limit. For me the answer is usually no and this helps me avoid eating that chocolate bar, or having a glass of wine.
  • pete5602
    pete5602 Posts: 3
    If you are doing weight training you are going to want to eat more and you have to remember that muscle weights more then fat. Would not worry about it.
  • lace_444
    lace_444 Posts: 4
    Thank you for all the feed back. I have reassessed the diet to see where I am taking more calories than necessary and am now trying to introduce a more strict method of protein intake.
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    lace_444 wrote: »
    I need your help!
    I am not The Most Active Person Alive! but it appears that I eat like I am. I do gym in the mornings, short cardio and then weight training (Monday to Friday and occasionally on the wknd). I am doing a 30 Day Bikram Yoga challenge this month too. That happens in the evenings. My work is pretty stressful and I run high on adrenaline quite often.

    With all of this, I have increased my protein intake and to include protein bars as snacks instead of the odd chocolate here and there, ok maybe everyday to "fight stress". The rest of the diet seems to be staying the same which is basically balanced.

    My question is, how do I convince myself that I do not need that extra helping of dinner after "Such a Long Day!" Or that I will survive if I do Not eat that chocolate?

    Which method are you using to track your calories? MFP or TDEE?
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
    Actually, I read several studies that showed people who exercise do tend to eat more calories afterwards than they exercise off. So you're not alone.

    That said, I eat a SMALL snack right after I exercise that I find satisfying and isn't sweet (sugar makes me want to eat more). So something slow to digest like yogurt and muesli or an apple or whatever.

    Then I just log that and keep going. I find if I get hungry and don't eat it's like my body doesn't trust me to give it what it needs. So I just eat a small something whenever I feel those pangs.
  • CrabNebula
    CrabNebula Posts: 1,119 Member
    I had to give up thinking I deserved any food reward for exercising or thinking I could eat back exercise calories. I use a lightly active tdee to figure my needs for the day and stick to that no matter what I do for exercise. It has worked for well over a year now for me.
  • brendak76
    brendak76 Posts: 241 Member
    nxd10 wrote: »
    Actually, I read several studies that showed people who exercise do tend to eat more calories afterwards than they exercise off. So you're not alone.

    .

    That would be me. I've run 2 full marathons and 5 halfs and gained weight training for every one of them. I did my last race in September, stopped running so much and replaced it with 1-2 hrs per day with classes at the gym. And gained weight again. All of the over exercising has messed with my cortisol and hunger levels I'm convinced. When I exercise that much I'm beyond starving all the time I feel like and I definitely overeat. I've decided to tone it down and primarily walk outside for exercise and am having no trouble eating at a deficit. And I've finally lost some weight this week.

  • ncfitbit
    ncfitbit Posts: 1,058 Member
    edited March 2015
    This was totally me. Before doing MFP consistently I always thought I'd burned way more calories than I actually did and felt like that meant I could eat whatever I wanted. Well, no, just no.

    I also love chocolate, but I've recently decided I'd rather see the scale move than eat ALL the chocolate. Lol. I still have chocolate almost every day, but I plan to make it fit within my calorie goal. It can be done. Hershey's is not my favorite chocolate in the world, but they make these little snack bars that make me feel like I'm eating a whole candy bar. I usually eat two and am very satisfied. Last night I had a half of a whole chocolate bar (some other brand they had at the theater), but it wasn't marked in any way so I just felt deprived at not getting to eat the whole thing!
  • xmichaelyx
    xmichaelyx Posts: 883 Member
    edited March 2015
    1) Figure out exactly how many calories you need to meet your goals.
    2) Figure out what you need to eat in order to stay within those calories. I avoid carbs because they make me hungry.
    3) (And this is where others will disagree.) Forget about "eating back" the calories you burn when you work out. There is no good method to figure out how many calories you've burned. Adjust caloric intake based on how fast you're losing or gaining over a 3-week period relative to your goals.
  • cheshirecatastrophe
    cheshirecatastrophe Posts: 1,395 Member
    What about coming up with alternate rewards? Instead of an extra helping after such a long day, how about investing in a shiatsu massage pillow, some kind of foot massager, or a scalp Tingler?

    As far as diet goes--obviously you need to compensate, *calorie* wise, for the added protein, and you seem to like eating in the evenings (me too!). Can you shift around some of your breakfast or lunch calories to give yourself more room at night? That's what I had to do.
  • lynn1982
    lynn1982 Posts: 1,439 Member
    Assuming you are eating too much (I say this because I've had to realize that the number I want to see on the scale is not the number where my body wants to be), and you want to cut out that piece of chocolate, what works for me is replacing it with something else. When I'm craving chocolate at night and I don't have the calories for it, I drink herbal tea, sometimes with a splash of almond milk. For weight loss and maintenance I have that for me, finding an alternative has been key.
  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,660 Member
    I completely understand your feelings, OP. I had a small treat today ( a brownie) instead of my regular morning snack (usually yogurt and fruit, or nuts or a piece of cheese). I worked out late this afternoon, and was very hungry. Instead of checking the calories I had left, I followed my appetite and ate a whole cup of whole wheat pasta and two chicken sausages, which I should have had 1/2 cup and one sausage. But seeing just that 1/2 cup of spaghetti and one link looked so pathetic on the plate. The end result 282 over my goal, and looking at MFP telling me that in 5 weeks I won't have lost any weight. So, I just have to plan better tomorrow and see how many calories I have left to eat before actually chowing down.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Skip breakfast- eat more later.

    I don't "do" evening hunger- I get stabby and cranky and I'm SUPER hungry at night- I eat A LOT at night.

    So to compensate- I eat nothing in the morning.
    I get my calories at night.
    I get my calorie goals (ish)
    and I lose weight as I need to (although slowly LMAO)
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Skip breakfast- eat more later.

    I don't "do" evening hunger- I get stabby and cranky and I'm SUPER hungry at night- I eat A LOT at night.

    So to compensate- I eat nothing in the morning.
    I get my calories at night.
    I get my calorie goals (ish)
    and I lose weight as I need to (although slowly LMAO)

    I"m similar and have been experimenting with eating less in the am. It worked *once* but I've gone over otherwise; how do you stay on track?
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    I prefer to work out at night time for this reason. That way i come home, exhausted, take a long hot bath and then head to bed. I think "Ah, such a long day! Time to relax and sleep!"

    This helps me with the "oh, i worked out so i can eat more" process that happens during the daytime if i choose to work out in the morning. Also, i get slightly naseous and DO NOT feel like eating after working out (especially hitting it hard!) so it works out.
  • FitPhillygirl
    FitPhillygirl Posts: 7,124 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    I prefer to work out at night time for this reason. That way i come home, exhausted, take a long hot bath and then head to bed. I think "Ah, such a long day! Time to relax and sleep!"

    This helps me with the "oh, i worked out so i can eat more" process that happens during the daytime if i choose to work out in the morning. Also, i get slightly naseous and DO NOT feel like eating after working out (especially hitting it hard!) so it works out.

    I'm the same way. I do my HIIT workouts about an hour and a half before taking a shower and going to bed. I sleep great every time I do this. When I get up in the morning I have a good size breakfast before going to work.
  • Ludd1te
    Ludd1te Posts: 3
    Practice Hara Hachi Bu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hara_hachi_bu So before you have that extra helping of dinner wait 20 minutes to see if you are still hungry. It takes that long for your stomach to signal your brain that you are full.
  • RedArizona5
    RedArizona5 Posts: 465 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    If you want it badly enough you commit to your calorie goal.
    Do that often enough and it becomes a habit.
    Once it becomes a habit you become successful.

    It starts between your ears!
    My big motivator is goals, long and short term. Yours may be different.

    I get hungry when i work at times and at times i don't. I do eat more on those day and i lose weight. idk what the issue is. Are you eating within the 30 minute window? Consistency/PERsistency is KING.
  • mzbek24
    mzbek24 Posts: 436 Member
    I'm having a similar issue with Marathon training, I have increased my calories and decided to take the pressure off myself to also lose weight, or much weight, at this point in time. I don't think there's much need to hurry, I planned on being here a long time yet anyways, to learn to maintain and everything, so now my deficit is smaller. You just need to commit to having to write in every thing you eat, even binges. Make sure others can see it, it's a good deterrent.
    Fuel is obviously important, for a large amount of exercise, but I think also that it's a mental thing, we see we have made a huge burn, and often feel like we need to just eat and eat and eat. For a while, it feels like you can get away with it, because you're burning so much, then bam! overcompensation occurs.
    My suggestion would be to try and log your workouts (if you log them) as 1 calorie, so you can't secretly go over but still see you're in the green. Plan out your meals and snacks, pre-log, regularly weigh in one day a week at the same time, and make sure that you have enough calories left at the end of the day, if that is particularly when you'll go reaching for things, and don't buy large quantities of any high calorie foods, not enough there on hand to binge on, but still get it in small packages etc if you enjoy it.
  • snowflakesav
    snowflakesav Posts: 649 Member
    Stress causes us to crave sugar and carbs and halts weight loss. Try some anti stress tools..laughter, yoga, self care, a relaxing shower, aroma therapy.
  • hearthwood
    hearthwood Posts: 794 Member
    edited March 2015
    It's very easy to overeat your workouts. Electronic devices, including MFP have a history of over estimating calories burned, plus you automatically feel justified in consuming more calories when you're working out. The result is always getting bigger and gaining weight.

    Because of this over estimation of calories burned, its never a good idea to eat back more than 1/2 of calories burned.

  • mzbek24
    mzbek24 Posts: 436 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    You use the website how it's supposed to be used. Exercise/eat and don't go over often.

    Yeah, I assume the person was trying to do so lol...not so easy to do when you're actually burning more calories than some people here even eat in a day.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    hearthwood wrote: »
    It's very easy to overeat your workouts. Electronic devices, including MFP have a history of over estimating calories burned, plus you automatically feel justified in consuming more calories when you're working out. The result is always getting bigger and gaining weight.

    Because of this over estimation of calories burned, its never a good idea to eat back more than 1/2 of calories burned.
    Re. the bolded comments- no and no!
    I've always eaten back my exercise calories when losing and maintaining successfully. Blanket advice really isn't a great idea.

    Estimating calorie burns for some activities is perfectly simple and plenty accurate enough for success. If people use a little common sense and adjust their calorie balance based on their actual results the MFP method (and TDEE method) works well.

    Remember this is a fitness site as well as a calorie counting site and some of us have big exercise burns. Telling everyone to halve their estimates would lead to some seriously missing their goals.

  • scrittrice
    scrittrice Posts: 345 Member
    ncfitbit wrote: »
    This was totally me. Before doing MFP consistently I always thought I'd burned way more calories than I actually did and felt like that meant I could eat whatever I wanted. Well, no, just no.

    Me too. I've always been active, but I felt entitled to eat whatever I wanted because of it--that's how I ended up here in the first place. I try and really think about how I feel. If I'm ravenous, like I feel like gnawing on my own arm, I eat a small snack--edamame, a few almonds, a couple of dried apricot halves, a couple of crackers with hummus, a hard-boiled egg. I often make myself a cup of herbal tea. If I'm within an hour of eating a meal, I try to hold off (or, since I work at home and make my own lunchtime, I sometimes eat my lunch ridiculously early). Often I look at my diary and reread what I've eaten that day. For some reason, seeing it written down makes me feel full. And sometimes I go over, and that's okay, too. On days that I lift, especially, I give myself 100 calories in leeway (and sometimes I go over by more than that). I've been in maintenance for six months and my weight has stayed steady in any case.

    If I'm going on a bike ride or to lift weights, I plan a snack to eat afterwards and have it waiting for me. Failing to do this--even if I'm not the least bit hungry as I leave the house--is a recipe for me rooting through the cupboards and the refrigerator and just throwing random things into my mouth. It's not pretty!

    Also, keep in mind that protein bars are just one option, and maybe not the best one. There are plenty of protein-rich low-calorie snacks you can keep around (I do find that protein quells my hunger very effectively). I listed some above, and there's a longer list floating around somewhere on the boards.

    I have eaten back every calorie burned (I wear a FitBit) and then some and still lost weight. MFP underestimates for me, but you need to figure out your own burns. It can take a little while, but it's a very useful thing to know. The goal isn't to eat as little as possible. The goal is to fuel yourself well.

  • cosmichvoyager
    cosmichvoyager Posts: 237 Member
    maybe speak to a dietician about this, one who is supportive and body positive. If you're working out a lot you're going to get hungry and you shouldn't have to be hungry all the time! A dietician who is good will be able to help you figure out what cravings are about, what your actual nutritional needs for your age, activity level and goals should be. They might also point out something you weren't noticing or acknowledging about your food choices or needs. Sometimes we go overboard on diet stuff/too extreme or are just missing some random food or nutrient etc.
  • I eat the occasional treat a couple of times a week. I believe the healthiest diet includes all foods, in moderation. I always log my indulgences and usually have them on very high activity days.
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