Anyone feel like you're in on a big secret with MFP?
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Judging by the amount of users who show up for a quick spell and vanish, no, I don't feel it's a secret. And there are other food journal/calorie counting apps out there as well.
The only thing that seemed secret in the sense that it felt like a revelation is that "eat less, move more" and CICO works.
Of course that secret is kept out in the open where everyone can see it but I can't blame people for not seeing it when for years upon years I didn't either.0 -
yes! I'm only sad more people aren't willing to try it (one family member in particular - she has every excuse in the book)0
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I thought this was a dating site for married people. Or is that the secret.. ohh. Got ya.0
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bennettinfinity wrote: »It's only a secret because most people don't want to hear about it... When I started losing weight, I was inundated with questions about how I was doing it - like the experience of many on this thread - no one listened once they discovered it wasn't a magic pill, etc... essentially "I want to lose weight, but I don't want to put forth any effort"
I think it's a little less black and white than that for people. Many don't want a magic pill, just think that the effort they would need to put in would be inordinate and almost undoable.
I though I would have to do tortuous amounts of physical activity and eat like a bird to lose weight. I only really felt it was achievable once I read the stickies here by SideSteel and others. I had an account for years before that and didn't use it but then I discovered the forum, read all the stickies and like the nerd that I am read all the referenced studies too and, well - I saw the light0 -
I think a lot of you are misreading what I'm saying. Obviously MFP isn't a secret, what I'm talking about is that is actually works and people aren't using it, instead spending a fortune on fad diets.0
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It's a secret in plain sight. It's hit the tipping point in membership, hasn't it? A genuine movement.
http://www.theinvisiblegorilla.com/gorilla_experiment.html0 -
lewispwest wrote: »I think a lot of you are misreading what I'm saying. Obviously MFP isn't a secret, what I'm talking about is that is actually works and people aren't using it, instead spending a fortune on fad diets.
Because lazy.0 -
I did not hear about mfp until late 2013, a friend of mine told me she had lost alot of weight on the site. I didnt get serious with it till, I seen her and how much weight, she had lost. I am very glad that she told me about it. I have lost 51lbs in the last year.0
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lewispwest wrote: »I think a lot of you are misreading what I'm saying. Obviously MFP isn't a secret, what I'm talking about is that is actually works and people aren't using it, instead spending a fortune on fad diets.
refer to my first post. I knew exactly what you were talking about.
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I tell everyone I meet (even women at bars and restaurants that are complaining about their weight). Most people look at me like I'm an alien. It's not a "diet" it's not a pill, so it's not going to work.0
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Yes! I so agree with you. But, when people ask me "how" I'm losing weight, the majority are very disappointed I'm not doing some woo-woo plan and generally those who ask for details end up getting glassy-eyed after just a couple sentences of my details about MFP.
So, I don't say too much anymore unless someone is seriously interested.
yeah, i find that a LOT.
everyone wants a quick fix. they dont want to work for it. most of us, i would bet, have been there and learned it doesnt work.0 -
Wiseandcurious wrote: »Judging by the amount of users who show up for a quick spell and vanish, no, I don't feel it's a secret. And there are other food journal/calorie counting apps out there as well.
The only thing that seemed secret in the sense that it felt like a revelation is that "eat less, move more" and CICO works.
Of course that secret is kept out in the open where everyone can see it but I can't blame people for not seeing it when for years upon years I didn't either.
I agree to a point, but (as you mention) a lot of people come here, read the forums, and maybe even enjoy some success still give up. Just weighing food and logging meals is too much effort for a good chunk... why bother with all that when the lemonade detox is SO much easier?0 -
lewispwest wrote: »I think a lot of you are misreading what I'm saying. Obviously MFP isn't a secret, what I'm talking about is that is actually works and people aren't using it, instead spending a fortune on fad diets.
no, I know exactly what you mean..but I still think that most people simply do not want to do the work...they know it works, but "there's gotta be an easier way." People in general are fairly lazy and always looking for an easy out...that's why the industry at large is so profitable and that's why there have always been snake oil salesman.
Like I said in my first post...all of my friends and colleagues know exactly how I lost my 40 Lbs...they know it works...but has anyone else done it? No....it's too much work in their eyes.0 -
scottacular wrote: »tinascar2015 wrote: »I think the world is pretty aware of MFP. I thought I was doing a service to my FB friends when I posted about it, and about a dozen of them, including my stepdaughter in England, said they use it. One friend even said her doctor recommended she begin using it. Now, why didn't any of my friends tell me about it ages ago??
Last time I was in the Royal Victoria Infirmary in Newcastle-upon-Tyne they had posters up advising people to use MFP. I gave it a knowing nod, like I was part of some cool club where all the other cool kids hang out. We should have a secret handshake for when we meet other MFP users to confirm our coolness. Maybe even have secret clubhouses all over the world for various different areas. And we can wear fancy robes and hats.
I am totally down for this idea.bennettinfinity wrote: »no one listened once they discovered it wasn't a magic pill, etc... essentially "I want to lose weight, but I don't want to put forth any effort"
I've had the same thing with every single one of my friends who has asked me about my weight loss, they want to know what specific diet I'm following or what shakes I use, what one amazing exercise I do, and how quickly I did it. When I explain CICO and that I took it slowly (335 days so far and 0.8lbs away from my goal) their interest immediately dies. They all want one miracle food, or one fat-destroying workout, or fantastical supplement that means you can still eat the way you always did and still lose. I can't understand why people are so against a method that WORKS. Seriously, it works, I've lost weight for the first time in my life and I've not deprived myself of any food I love, it's just.... science! It works! Use it, you strange little people! Gah.0 -
bennettinfinity wrote: »why bother with all that when the lemonade detox is SO much easier?
Haha, "Lemonade Detox", better copyright that quickly!
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A lot of people are put off by logging/weighing/measuring, no two ways about it.0
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Yes I agree. Echoing a lot of comments here, most people will try weird diets, food exclusions, etc. but they are unrealistic about results. A friend of mine whines a lot about how hard dieting is, and I see her 'fall off the wagon' a lot. I said to her, "Do you really want to know which diet works?" Of course she got all excited, and I said, "The one you stick to." That really is key.
All I know is the ONLY time I have ever lost a significant amount of weight is when I was patient with myself, journaled my food religiously, and added exercise into my weekly routine.
Also, I want to mention self talk. I broke my leg about ten years ago and the doc said I'd have to stay off of it for 3 MONTHS! I started to cry and I said "I'll get fat" guess what? I did. From there I had this nagging voice inside my head that said if I couldn't run I'd gain weight. Talk to yourself in a loving supportive way. It's all up to you anyway, no one can do this for you. So you might as well be your own best cheerleader. Someone said to me, if you don't like something, change your mind. Your body has to do what your mind says.0 -
Yes I agree. Echoing a lot of comments here, most people will try weird diets, food exclusions, etc. but they are unrealistic about results.
That's partly because people do want fast results, but also because we are inundated with false and misleading claims made by the diet and fitness industry.
Like what the crap is this
http://www.doctoroz.com/article/10-day-detox-diet-jump-start-guide
or this
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/weight-loss/7-day-diet
or this
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bennettinfinity wrote: »Wiseandcurious wrote: »Judging by the amount of users who show up for a quick spell and vanish, no, I don't feel it's a secret. And there are other food journal/calorie counting apps out there as well.
The only thing that seemed secret in the sense that it felt like a revelation is that "eat less, move more" and CICO works.
Of course that secret is kept out in the open where everyone can see it but I can't blame people for not seeing it when for years upon years I didn't either.
I agree to a point, but (as you mention) a lot of people come here, read the forums, and maybe even enjoy some success still give up. Just weighing food and logging meals is too much effort for a good chunk... why bother with all that when the lemonade detox is SO much easier?
I see your point. In the end, as so many people have said so many times, you have to want it badly enough.
Part of the problem I think is "magical thinking" - we all have it as kids and mostly grow out of it as our reason develops, but I think some people suffer from its effects all their lives. Even when I didn't have what it took to stick to MFP, I never went on any fad - but I am a hopeless rationalist. The stronger one's (possibly subconscious) belief that a magic solution to their problems may exist, the stronger they will resist doing it the hard, old-fashioned way I guess.0
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