Advice please from someone who has lost weight and kept it off.

stacerenea27
stacerenea27 Posts: 14 Member
edited November 15 in Health and Weight Loss
I have been gaining and losing the same 30-50 lbs since I was about 11 years old. Several years ago I lost a lot of weight eating 900 calories a day and excercising as much as possible. I am trying to lose weight again and not sure how to do it. I have been consistently tracking my calories for about 2 months now and I have not lost a lot of weight. When I do lose weight I am not sure what I did different in that time to cause the weight loss. A friend of mine had her trainer who review my stats and said I should be eating 1600 calories a day . That seems way to high to me. MFP has me at 1200 and that doesn't seem to work either. I do not weigh my food , and I know that is one of the first things people say to do. I do portion out as best I can. If I get a food scale and measure everything my husband will really think I am losing my mind. I am hoping to get some advice from someone who has lost the weight and kept it off.

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  • redskiednight
    redskiednight Posts: 32 Member
    edited April 2015
    If you are not losing at 1200, you are eating way more than you think you are. Buy yourself a food scale (who cares what your husband thinks, I doubt he would care too much) and start weighing everything you put in your mouth.

    Check all of the stickied posts at the top of this board, follow the advice they give you, and you will have no trouble losing the weight.

    How tall are you and how old are you? I lose a pound every two or a bit less weeks at 1600 and I am 5 foot 8, currently 155lbs, down from 215. You don't need to starve yourself at 1200, you just need to log accurately. You use a lot of generic foods like 'One potato' which mean nothing, really. You need to weigh your food :)

    ETA: you said you have not lost a lot of weight. How much have you already lost? You didn't put 50lbs on in 2 months, it won't come off that quickly. Weight loss is not a sprint, it's a marathon.
  • leggup
    leggup Posts: 2,942 Member
    I do not weigh my food , and I know that is one of the first things people say to do. I do portion out as best I can. If I get a food scale and measure everything my husband will really think I am losing my mind.

    There's your problem. Saying your husband will judge you is an excuse. If you are legitimately concerned about how your husband will view your actions, consider having a conversation with him about how frustrated you are gaining and losing the same 30-50 lbs. I'm sure he'll be supportive if you explain how helpful a tool it will be.

    You will also need to be more accurate logging the correct entry on MFP. For example, you log creamer for coffee as one entry, then coffee with half and half as another entry. You used half and half and creamer? The coffee entry has the half and half already added, but you don't know how much half and half that is.

    You trainer friend probably had you losing at a lower rate than 2lbs/week. You say you have not lost a lot of weight in 2 months- how much have you lost?
  • healthygreek
    healthygreek Posts: 2,137 Member
    This is how I lost weight and kept it off for years-
    Weigh all solid food on my digital food scale.
    Measure caloric liquids in measuring cups and spoons.
    Eat at a deficit and then maintenance.
    Move my body for health and extra calories.

    Simple yet effective!
  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,590 MFP Moderator
    1. set appropraite goals, most people who are given the 1200 calorie goal have a rate loss too aggressive for their goal. Yes, 2 lbs a week is considered healthy if you are very obease, but when you need to lose less you have less room to create a deficit. On your profile it says you want to lose about 30 more pounds? You should be shooting for about 1 lb a week.
    2. To give you a little bit of perspective: I am a 200lb female, fairly active, and I lose about 1.5 lbs/week eating 1600 + part of my exercise calories. 900 calories a day is way too restrictive, may cause all sorts of health problems, and is just not sustainable.
    3. Make a plan you can keep up with forever. Don't cut out things you can't say goodbye to for the rest of your life. If you like chocolate (or donuts, or ice cream, or whatever) thats fine, learn to eat it in a moderate portions and fit it into your normal routine.
    4. Looking at your diary I am seeing days that (I really really hope) are only partially logged. To really have success calorie counting you have to count every thing every day. If you don't know what you are eating you can't have accurate expectations for progress.
    5. I know the foodscale seems so annoying, but it really does make a big difference, especially for calorie dense foods (peanut butter and cheese were eye openers for me). You will learn to incorperate it into you routine like its nothing, and it will only seem like a big deal to others if you make a big deal out of it. My husband thinks the weighing is a little strange but other than that he doesn't care. It's been part of the routine that has been successful for me. If I am happy he is happy :)

    If you have not read these threads, there are all sorts of useful tips in there for setting up a reliable plan and logging accurately.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide#latest

  • stacerenea27
    stacerenea27 Posts: 14 Member
    Thank you to everyone so far for your advice. I am 5'7 and currently weigh 156-158. I drink A LOT of coffee. So, yes when you see creamer or half and half it is a different cup of coffee. I sweaten with Stevia. I do use a measuring cup for liquids. I also count things so when it says x number of pretzels, I really did count them. My family thinks I am nuts. Part of that is my fault I know because I did go down to 900 calories a day and no coffee.
  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,590 MFP Moderator
    I also count things so when it says x number of pretzels, I really did count them.

    I used to do that too, I found some items there was quite a bit of descrepancy between the counted serving and the weighed serving. It wasn't always bad either, sometimes you find you can have more (one of my favorite cookies ended up this way, that was a win!)
  • stacerenea27
    stacerenea27 Posts: 14 Member
    Ok, here are some specific questions that I have. Do you eat your excercise calories back? I only log half of my excercise. Do you always eat breakfast?
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    Ok, here are some specific questions that I have. Do you eat your excercise calories back? I only log half of my excercise. Do you always eat breakfast?

    Yes at least half of them when I was using the NEAT Method and yes I always eat breakfast but you don't have to it's about staying in goal meal timing is of no consequence

  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
    I also count things so when it says x number of pretzels, I really did count them. My family thinks I am nuts.

    The scale is worth it. SSSOOO much easier than counting and estimating. My fam thinks I'm nuts too, but then I'm the most in-shape one in my family so they keep it to themselves.
  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
    P.S. Counting & estimating worked great until I turned 46. Before that I had heavy travel, demanding job, always on feet, presenting, etc. I actually exercise more now (added ST), but otherwise I'm pretty sedentary. As my activity level went down, I needed more accuracy. It really does work!
  • stacerenea27
    stacerenea27 Posts: 14 Member
    What is the NEAT method? "The scale is worth it. SSSOOO much easier than counting and estimating. My fam thinks I'm nuts too, but then I'm the most in-shape one in my family so they keep it to themselves. " Love this!
  • stacerenea27
    stacerenea27 Posts: 14 Member
    Also, do you guys have cheat days or cheat meals?
  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
    edited April 2015
    Nope. I log it all and bank calories for the weekend.
  • vixtris
    vixtris Posts: 688 Member
    get the scale, be sure you have plenty of measuring cups too. if your husband says something about it, tell him you are getting serious about your health and maybe he should too.
  • snowflakesav
    snowflakesav Posts: 649 Member
    I have kept most of 50 pounds off for 8 years. I am kinda fighting with the last 15 pounds. I agree that learning about portion sizes and weighing food is going to help. I think some people aren't really aware of how sedendtry they are. The daily movement...walking to yoga class, ironing, putting things away, cooking, carrying groceries home from the store are what make the difference between a scale that won't move and steady loss.
  • evileen99
    evileen99 Posts: 1,564 Member
    Ditto the others, you HAVE to weigh your food. If you don't know how much is going in, you won't be able to create that deficit. And with around 30 pounds to lose, at most you should try for one pound a week.

    It helps to have preportioned snacks ready to go (I have bags of weighed carrots, fruit, pretzels; containers of yogurt, etc) so when you're hungry you're not tempted to skip the scale and just eat a "handful" of something.

    As others have said, the portion size on a package isn't necessarily accurate. My bag of prunes says 5 prunes is 100 calories, if I weigh 5 prunes, they're really 125 calories. My oatmeal says 1/2 a cup is 150 calories, if I weigh half a cup of oatmeal, it's 200 calories. You get the picture.
  • stacerenea27
    stacerenea27 Posts: 14 Member
    8 years. That is amazing! I like the idea of banking calories for the weekend as well. I would like to clarify, my husband is 6 foot 2 and only weighs 160. He has always been extremely thin and has a hard time gaining weight so he just doesn't understand what it is like to watch what you eat.
  • brookesdsu
    brookesdsu Posts: 47 Member
    You've gotten some good advice already. I just wanted to note that unless you are measuring your coffee creamer/half and half, you are taking in a whole bunch of calories that you don't even realize. A serving of coffee creamer is very small and the calories add up very quickly. You could easily be drinking a couple hundred calories a day in creamer and not realize it.
  • wkwebby
    wkwebby Posts: 807 Member
    Also lean muscle mass plays a big part of whether you can do the same things as you did 10 years ago. The less muscle mass you have, the quicker and easier it can be to put the weight back on. What kind of exercises did you do to lose the weight? Did you continue to do them during the time you gained the weight back?

    As we age, unless you concentrate on keeping and/or building some lean muscle mass (LMM), the amount we naturally have will start to decrease. Running and cardio does nothing to build or keep lean muscle mass, but you will "earn" calories for the day. You can only keep and build LMM by weight lifting or challenging your muscles with some sort of weights. Have you ever heard the term "skinny fat"? When you don't have muscles, but you are a skinny weight, it is quite easy to gain the weight back.
  • urloved33
    urloved33 Posts: 3,323 Member
    Move more than you consume.
  • thatonegirlwiththestuff
    thatonegirlwiththestuff Posts: 1,171 Member
    I'm going to be attacked here for not being a calorie counting fan. I actually track my macros a lot more closely than calories (I have previously trained for bikini competitions and followed the nutritional advice of my coach), so I do know how to get very lean. Try focusing on clean foods. Whole foods that will fill you up and foods low in glycemic loads and complex carbs. Egg whites, rolled oats, sweet potato, chicken, ground turkey, veggies and try to only eat 1 serving of fruit per day, such as berries or half a banana, and you'll be really surprised how fast you lean out. And if you don't already weight train, really give that a try. I do zero cardio, ZERO and maintain a low body fat by eating the right foods and weight training.
  • ladieofthebees
    ladieofthebees Posts: 51 Member
    This all sounds so familiar - I was in the same boat for years! I was also resistant to getting a food scale (surely that's over-obsessing/my husband will think I'm nuts/what if the scale tells me I can't eat as much as I think?) but I have to tell you, it was the best thing I ever did. It helped me take true control of my diet/intake.

    And yeah, my husband did think I was a bit nuts (and yeah, I can't eat as much cheese as I thought :anguished: ) - but after a few weeks of me consistently losing weight, my husband also joined MFP and has me weigh out all HIS portions now (the day I caught him actually weighing his portion of ice cream was a quiet, internal triumph).

    Follow the very comprehensive advice of the posters above, they know what they're talking about!
  • johnnylakis
    johnnylakis Posts: 812 Member
    The only way to avoid the see saw of weight is to set a calorie goal for the REMAINDER of your life. The up and down comes from dieting, hitting a goal, and then going back to BAD eating habits. Exercise is a WASTE of time if you are not going to watch your INTAKE. I have lost 37 lbs and STILL use my food scale EVERYDAY. I haven't been to the gym in months.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    I'm going to be attacked here for not being a calorie counting fan. I actually track my macros a lot more closely than calories (I have previously trained for bikini competitions and followed the nutritional advice of my coach), so I do know how to get very lean. Try focusing on clean foods. Whole foods that will fill you up and foods low in glycemic loads and complex carbs. Egg whites, rolled oats, sweet potato, chicken, ground turkey, veggies and try to only eat 1 serving of fruit per day, such as berries or half a banana, and you'll be really surprised how fast you lean out. And if you don't already weight train, really give that a try. I do zero cardio, ZERO and maintain a low body fat by eating the right foods and weight training.

    Not attacking you at all. This really works for very few people. Although you aren't tracking calories, you are tracking something, and weight training and restriction works for you, obviously. The average person is really going to struggle with this type of plan.

    "Clean" eating (lord, I hate that term), is extremely difficult for most people, and really unnecessary for anyone who isn't in a competitive world.

    OP, get a food scale, work on moderation.

    Yes, weight training will really help you.
  • Castrofreak
    Castrofreak Posts: 67 Member
    I thought having a food scale would make me seem a lil crazy, but its helped a lot, and I couldn't imagine this journey without it! Plus my husband doesnt mind it. It sits on the microwave til I use it, and I only use it when I eat. Its not that crazy. He made jokes when I first bought it, but it stopped by the second day.
  • peter56765
    peter56765 Posts: 352 Member
    I lot of good advice here. I'm going to chime in with one that gets short shrift around here: cardio. While weight training is important to build muscles, don't neglect the most important muscle in your body: the heart. Not to be too depressing, but heart disease is still the #1 killer in America, accounting for more deaths than all forms of cancer combined. We see thread after thread about clean eating and cancer fighting foods and whatnot, but lost in all that is the big elephant in the room: your heart health.

    So while strictly speaking you don't have to exercise to lose weight, for health and fitness reasons, you should endeavor to get in both weight and cardio training every week.
  • bwogilvie
    bwogilvie Posts: 2,130 Member
    I lost about 65 pounds (from 215 lb. to 150 lb.) over the course of two years, most of it (about 47 pounds) in the first year. I've kept it off since December. Here's what I did:

    - Created an MFP account, entered my stats (44-year-old male at the time, 5' 10", 214.8 lb., lightly active), and set a 1.5-pound weekly loss target. MFP estimated my calorie goal with a 750-calorie daily deficit.
    - Logged as accurately as I could for several weeks, using a food scale for solids when preparing anything that was calorie dense (i.e., weigh peanuts, but not celery).
    - Continued to get lots of cardio exercise (I've been a cyclist for years), log exercise, and eat back those calories.

    After a month, I discovered I was losing more like 1.1 pounds a week after the initial water weight. OK, that's 200 calories a day I was either missing in my food logs or overestimating in my exercise or activity. I set my activity level to sedentary. After that, my losses matched pretty well with my logs. In particular, my exercise calories (estimated by a pretty fancy Garmin cycling computer/GPS/HRM, and when I run, by the equivalent for running) matched my actual loss. Note that my Garmin stuff estimated only 50-75% of what MFP's database estimates. If I had trusted the MFP database, I would not have lost as much weight.

    The key lessons to take away from my experience? I think there are three.

    1. Look at your results and readjust your goals as needed. I found I was losing slower than I intended; when I changed my activity level in MFP, the numbers came into alignment. All these numbers are estimates, so you need to monitor them and change them if results don't match the prediction.

    2. Use a food scale, at least for calorie-dense foods. After a few weeks you might get pretty good at eyeballing things; even if you do, pull out the food scale from time to time as a reality check.

    3. Cardio exercise is great, not only for the long-term health benefits and the way it makes you feel good, but also because it lets you lose weight while eating more than you could if you were sedentary. You don't have to go overboard, but even just a 30-minute daily walk would allow you to have a cookie, or three clementines, or over half a pound of carrots, as an additional snack. I found that made a huge difference in how satisfied I was, compared with times I couldn't get much exercise and had to eat a lot less.

    Good luck!
  • stacerenea27
    stacerenea27 Posts: 14 Member
    My calorie count is currently set at 1200 for 2 lbs a week but the estimate that I will lose is a lot less because I would have to dip below 1200 to lose 2lbs. I completely agree with the heart health comment. My mother is currently functioning with 30% heart function, up from 10% before a triple bypass. I have been logging about half of my excercise except sometimes I log more on the weekends because I do more. Thank you all so much for your excellent advice!
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