Do I lift light/several reps or heavy/few reps

soccerkon26
soccerkon26 Posts: 596 Member
edited November 2024 in Fitness and Exercise
I've always heard that if you want to be lean you lift light weights doing several reps (10+) and if you want to grow a lot of muscle/bodybuild and look muscular you use heavier weights doing 5ish reps.

Is this true? I feel like it's not. I'm at the point where I've lost most of the weight I want am an not sure if I should increase the weight on the weight press and free weights!

I'm looking to get more toned, if that makes sense.

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  • Cortelli
    Cortelli Posts: 1,369 Member
    You are not going to get a lot of muscle / bodybuild look unless you really, really want to and put in a lot of deliberate, focused effort.

    Whether you're lifting at around 5 reps or up to around 12 - 15 you're probably fine given your aesthetic goals.

    Best recommendation is to find a proven, structured, regular program (there are tons of examples routinely recommended around here) rather than trying to kluge together your own.

    Good luck!
  • soccerkon26
    soccerkon26 Posts: 596 Member
    Thanks :)
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Look into strong lifts 5 x 5.
  • Lofteren
    Lofteren Posts: 960 Member
    You'll actually pack on a little more mass and gain a little less strength if you train with higher (10-15) reps per set vs. Training with lower reps (2-5) per set which will help you to build more strength than mass. If you're interested in learning more about why, Google "sarcomeric vs sarcoplasmic hypertrophy".
  • soccerkon26
    soccerkon26 Posts: 596 Member
    Thanks!! :)
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  • TheRoseRoss
    TheRoseRoss Posts: 112 Member
    edited April 2015
    The general rule of thumb (gave or take a few reps) is:

    - 1-3 reps builds strength
    - 12 reps builds muscle
    - 15+ reps improves conditioning

    You ask 10 different, people, you'll get 10 different answers on the ranges (some might say it's "3-5" as opposed to "1-3"), but the general consensus is somewhere around those ranges. The next thing that I've seen trip people up is someone grabbing a weight, performing 3 reps (no more. No less), and then dropping it in order to rest saying:

    "That's one set completed. I'm only doing 3 reps. I'm trying to get stronger."

    That's not the way that it works. If I'm holding a pencil in my hand, curling it 3 times won't make my biceps get stronger because I'm "working out in the 1-to-3 rep range." The rep range means:

    "Lift a weight so heavy that the most times that I can move it (with good form) is 3 reps."

    If you're holding a weight that you can move for 30 reps, moving it for 12 reps is not going to building muscle because I'm "training in the muscle building range."

    Something that I think a lot of women (in my experience) find difficult to believe is that in order to get "toned," you need to lifting in the 12 rep "muscle building" range. I've made several female friends at the gym, or at work that ask me about the gym, and the general consensus seems to be:

    "I need to use light weight, and do a lot of reps in order to get tone, right?"

    One friend in particular drives me bonkers because she keeps saying:

    "I just want to get toned. I don't wanna get bulky. I don't wanna look like a man."

    Lifting heavy weights won't make a woman end up looking like a man. Lifting heavy weights, and taking testosterone, will make a woman end up looking like a man. On their own, women do not have enough testosterone to "end up looking like men" by lifting heavy weight.

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  • pzarnosky
    pzarnosky Posts: 256 Member
    Either way you'll gain muscle and strength. Whether you're doing it in 6-10 reps or 11-15 reps, you're still working the muscle, stimulating it, and telling it you need more of it. Yes there is a difference in 6-10 vs 11-15, but if you're just starting out lifting, you're going to put muscle on either way you go. Thats what getting "toned" is... I feel the big difference comes after you've been doing it for awhile. Staying at around the same weight and changing your lifts will keep you at a maintenance level. I lift heavy, usually shoot for 8-10 reps and usually throw in a burnout lift where I do 12-15 reps at the very end (several sets in a row with no break progressivley moving down 5lbs each time). I love it. Everytime I get to add more weight I get pumped. But I imagine there's going to come a day where I need to stop increasing the weight because while you can't really get huge without steroids, women can still get pretty "manly" looking just by lifting.

    Just remember that building muscle is not a fast process. I've been diligently lifting for 7 months and it took quite awhile for me to really see anything that I deemed a worthwhile result. Check out bodybuilding.com. They have pretty much every resource you could ever need.

    One more thing, keep in mind with whichever rep range you decide; your last rep should be a lot harder than your first one in that set. A lot of people make the mistake when they do the "light 12-15 reps" of not picking a heavy enough weight. That last rep has to be a serious struggle. It's supposed to burn and be hard.
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  • IsaCaliBel
    IsaCaliBel Posts: 99 Member
    Not sure if it's been mentioned but your calorie intake will also have a lot to do with gaining muscle and strength. There's only so much strength you can get while eating on a deficit. And it's nearly impossible to build muscle unless you're eating at maintenance or above, with a solid lifting routine.
  • AllanMisner
    AllanMisner Posts: 4,140 Member
    edited April 2015
    You’re a woman. You’re likely eating at a slight deficit in calories. You will not put on any noticeable muscle regardless of how you lift. But what you should focus on is not losing muscle as you lose fat. To do that, you’ll want to increase your strength through weight lifting.

    New Rules of Lifting for Women and strong lifts are two programs I think beginning to intermediate trainees can use for good results. Both go on the premise of going heavy and ensuring you’re getting progressive resistance.

    You’ll get stronger, you’ll retain more muscle, as you lose fat, you’ll look much more toned.

    ETA: Since a lot of folks don’t seem to think rep range matters, I thought I’d share this link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18787090. You’re going to get more strength and muscle mass at lower reps with higher weight.

  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
    For building muscle, do 1 or 2 sets of 8-12 repetitions of a weight that's 70-85% of your one-repetition maximum (1RM).
    For building endurance, do 1 or 2 sets of 15-20 repetitions of a weight that's 50-65% of your 1RM.

    Either way, start low on both weight & reps and work up.
    You should just be able to do the last 2-3 reps.
    When it gets easy to do the maximum # of reps, add 5 pounds and go back to the minimum # of reps.

    (From the American College of Sports Medicine's book "Resources for the Personal Trainer, 4th edition".)


    You're unlikely to build muscle while eating in a calorie deficit. You'd be doing well just to keep the muscle you
    already have. And if you're a normal woman (no screwed-up hormones) you won't bulk up. It is hard for women
    to build muscle. Takes concentrated effort, and eating on the high end of the healthy range for protein % in
    their diet.
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