What determines how soon weight gain flat lines and calories have to be raised?

sethbrandeis
sethbrandeis Posts: 15 Member
I've been working with a trainer 4x a week and using this fitness app for almost 60 days straight. We noticed that I started flat lining at 110 lbs with about 2800 calories, so my trainer moved it up to 3100 calories.

I haven't had a problem keeping this up--in fact I'm still hungry even after I get my 3100 calories. It's also been working--I'm approaching a 115 lbs now.

What I want to know is, will I flat line again with 3100 calories, and would my calorie intake eventually reach 4000 to continue weight gain? I'm a bit confused by this, given the fact I'm only 5' 4", have always been skinny / slim, and yet I have to eat a tremendous amount of calories just to gain weight. On the other hand, my trainer is only an inch taller than me, but weighs 170 lbs and eats about 3100 calories a day to maintain weight. In addition, I've got a friend who is only 2 inches taller and eats almost nothing / doesn't work out, and yet he's fairly muscular.

Does everyone have to go through this extreme just to gain healthy weight, or is it really variable and basically determined by genetics?

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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    as you add weight your TDEE moves up because your body has to burn more calories to support the added weight.

    It is not genetics, it is math and science.

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  • RockShox7
    RockShox7 Posts: 2 Member
    edited April 2015
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    as you add weight your TDEE moves up because your body has to burn more calories to support the added weight.

    It is not genetics, it is math and science.

    So growth hormone, IGF-1, thyroid hormone etc.. etc.. have nothing to do with genetics? These are things which can be affected by changes to calorie intake, both increase & decrease.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    RockShox7 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    as you add weight your TDEE moves up because your body has to burn more calories to support the added weight.

    It is not genetics, it is math and science.

    So growth hormone, IGF-1, thyroid hormone etc.. etc.. have nothing to do with genetics? These are things which can be affected by changes to calorie intake, both increase & decrease.

    nice first post..

    but I will play with you ..

    I believe that would fall under the 'science' category…

  • Halziees
    Halziees Posts: 42 Member
    I was just wondering about this today (ndj1979, maybe you may have the answer?)... does gain eventually "level out" with increased calories, and maintenance becomes higher? Does this happen every time or is there a limit? Seems a limit would have to be reached.
  • Chieflrg
    Chieflrg Posts: 9,097 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    RockShox7 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    as you add weight your TDEE moves up because your body has to burn more calories to support the added weight.

    It is not genetics, it is math and science.

    So growth hormone, IGF-1, thyroid hormone etc.. etc.. have nothing to do with genetics? These are things which can be affected by changes to calorie intake, both increase & decrease.

    nice first post..

    but I will play with you ..

    I believe that would fall under the 'science' category…
    You may move your checker forward one space diagonally...

  • Chieflrg
    Chieflrg Posts: 9,097 Member
    Halziees wrote: »
    I was just wondering about this today (ndj1979, maybe you may have the answer?)... does gain eventually "level out" with increased calories, and maintenance becomes higher? Does this happen every time or is there a limit? Seems a limit would have to be reached.
    There will be a point as long as you are eating the same calories and relatively doing the same amount of work/exercise you will level out and have to increase your calories as you will burn more by simply being heavier.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Chieflrg wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    RockShox7 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    as you add weight your TDEE moves up because your body has to burn more calories to support the added weight.

    It is not genetics, it is math and science.

    So growth hormone, IGF-1, thyroid hormone etc.. etc.. have nothing to do with genetics? These are things which can be affected by changes to calorie intake, both increase & decrease.

    nice first post..

    but I will play with you ..

    I believe that would fall under the 'science' category…
    You may move your checker forward one space diagonally...

    do i get kinged??????
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Chieflrg wrote: »
    Halziees wrote: »
    I was just wondering about this today (ndj1979, maybe you may have the answer?)... does gain eventually "level out" with increased calories, and maintenance becomes higher? Does this happen every time or is there a limit? Seems a limit would have to be reached.
    There will be a point as long as you are eating the same calories and relatively doing the same amount of work/exercise you will level out and have to increase your calories as you will burn more by simply being heavier.

    that is pretty much what I was thinking..

    my last bulk I started at 176 and my maintenance level was about 2600 and I gained a half pound per week at 2800 to 2850 per day ..abou three months in I was gaining a half pound on 3000 so my maintenance level was in the 2700 range and then by the end I was at 186 and gaining at 3100 and maintenance level was about 2750….

  • wilsonctenney
    wilsonctenney Posts: 13 Member
    edited April 2015
    I weigh in every week and currently run a deficit. I just multiply my TDEE by .8 (will be a 15% cut really soon) and use that number for my base amount the next week and add all my activity calories. I will do the same process when I eventually bulk, but instead of multiplying by .8 or .85, I will multiply by 1.1 for a 10% surplus.
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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Chieflrg wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    RockShox7 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    as you add weight your TDEE moves up because your body has to burn more calories to support the added weight.

    It is not genetics, it is math and science.

    So growth hormone, IGF-1, thyroid hormone etc.. etc.. have nothing to do with genetics? These are things which can be affected by changes to calorie intake, both increase & decrease.

    nice first post..

    but I will play with you ..

    I believe that would fall under the 'science' category…
    You may move your checker forward one space diagonally...

    do i get kinged??????

    I stole your kings.

    bulking section *kitten*- we ate dem sh!tz
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