Is my step counter double dipping?

So I recently upgraded my iPhone and it now tracks how many steps I take. I work in retail so when I first started mfp I put myself at lightly active because I'm on my feet all day running around. I keep my phone on me so I track how many steps I take while working and mfp automatically adjusts my calories. Is that double dipping into calories of its tracking the activity that made me choose the lightly active lifestyle? I've been deleting the extra calories burned because I'm so confused about this and don't want to sabatoge my weightloss.

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  • PeachyPlum
    PeachyPlum Posts: 1,243 Member
    Yes, I would consider that double-dipping.

    If you want the iPhone to sync with MFP, I'd set myself to sedentary. Or you can delete the step calories burned if you prefer - whatever works for you.
  • DemoraFairy
    DemoraFairy Posts: 1,806 Member
    Does MFP start adding in extra calories as soon as you start walking, or only after a certain amount of steps? If it's a only after a certain amount of steps, then I'm pretty sure that means you've gone over what it expects you to do for lightly active, so you're fine to eat the extra calories back as they won't be included in your base goal. But now you've got a step counter you might as well set yourself to sedentary and just use what your iPhone says. That's what I've done with my Fitbit. Means that on days when I walk a lot I can eat a lot, but I'm not overeating on days when I sit around and don't do anything.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    If it works like Fitbit, it's not double dipping. They're synced, so whatever you tell MFP your activity level is, Fitbit won't start giving you extra until you reach that mark. For example, I am set up to need 10K steps. I do not receive extra calories until I hit it and the Fitbit will even take away calories if I don't.

    Now if it just logs all of your steps for the day and sends them in as exercise, then yes, it's double dipping.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Is it the health and fitness app on a Iphone 5s and 6? Just curious.
  • katie_mae17
    katie_mae17 Posts: 9 Member
    Yes it the health app on the iPhone 6. I finally found an article from myfitnesspal that kinda explains it. If I'm reading it correctly it means that I technically should be fine to leave the adding calories it gives me. q9ddowibpam5.jpg
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    Yep, sounds like it does the same thing as Fitbit! Does it seem pretty accurate?
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    When I got my jawbone, I was told to switch my activity level to sedentary and enable negative calorie adjustments. Sounds like your phone should have the same principals behind it.
  • marissafit06
    marissafit06 Posts: 1,996 Member
    maidentl wrote: »
    Yep, sounds like it does the same thing as Fitbit! Does it seem pretty accurate?

    I use a Fitbit and it's pretty accurate. If you have negative calories enabled it's not double dipping. My Fitbit doesn't give me extra calories until I exceed by MFP calorie allowance.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,209 Member
    edited April 2015
    PeachyPlum wrote: »
    Yes, I would consider that double-dipping.
    If you want the iPhone to sync with MFP, I'd set myself to sedentary. Or you can delete the step calories burned if you prefer - whatever works for you.

    Sorry Peachy; but in an unusual move for you, you're not correct!

    Summary: there is NO double counting when the apps are synchronizing correctly.

    Long version:
    If your phone is set to automagically synchronize with MFP like all the other step counter apps are set to, what happens is that MFP calculates a TDEE based on what the other app projects you will burn to the end of day and compares it to the TDEE MFP is generating for you for that same day. If you've burned more as per that other app, you get a credit. If you've enabled negative adjustments and burned less on that other app than on MFP you get a deduction.

    THERE IS NO DOUBLE COUNTING.

    Even if you put the same walking exercise in MFP and on your phone, in the end it would only count once based on the values in the app that "wins"

    Assuming things work as designed, about the only situation that would generate a counting related problem is if you enter some activities on one tracker that you do not enter on the other.

    In that case the activities that were solely entered on the tracker that "lost" would not be counted at all for that day.

    My personal decision has been that I wanted to smooth my eating a little bit as opposed to continuously chase exercise calories to eat back.

    As such I've set MFP to a level I think I will attain on the vast majority of days.
    I still allow a positive adjustment as on the vast majority of days I still do more than what MFP is set at.
    On the few days that I do less, I either don't worry about it, or I adjust my intake mentally, on the fly.

    If you enable negative calories you are just saying to MFP: "no matter what, I trust that other program's TDEE calculation more than yours, and I want you to adjust my calories based on the other program's data and not on your own settings."

    Doing so continues the chasing of exercise calories as is common with MFP; but, on the strength of the information provided by the other program. The MFP settings are ignored unless both programs are coming up with the exact same TDEE for you.

    To further clarify: a negative calorie adjustment does not enable or disable a double dip. If the apps are working and synchronizing correctly, there is no double dip. If the other app is not accurate in its counting, it WILL introduce its own set of errors.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    maidentl wrote: »
    Yep, sounds like it does the same thing as Fitbit! Does it seem pretty accurate?

    I use a Fitbit and it's pretty accurate. If you have negative calories enabled it's not double dipping. My Fitbit doesn't give me extra calories until I exceed by MFP calorie allowance.

    Thanks, I have a Fitbit, I was asking the OP about her app. :smile: