165 pounds i wanna be 180lbs

kieranpalmer1995
kieranpalmer1995 Posts: 63 Member
I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student
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  • calell83
    calell83 Posts: 43 Member
    Peanut Butter
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    edited April 2015
    Peanut butter, fuller fat milk, flax seed oil/coconut oil
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Peanut Butter, Whole milk
    Anything that is high in fat will be high in calories.

  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    Lol, I'd just eat bacon with it. If not, the other suggestions with peanut butter, etc. are good. Look just to add some fat to your diet. Avocados, nuts, oils.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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  • karrysalexi
    karrysalexi Posts: 62 Member
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Lol, I'd just eat bacon with it. If not, the other suggestions with peanut butter, etc. are good. Look just to add some fat to your diet. Avocados, nuts, oils.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    Why so elitist?! Bacon with peanut butter!
  • kieranpalmer1995
    kieranpalmer1995 Posts: 63 Member
    I am
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    I am a student I can't buy that much food that's why I try to get 2.3k
  • kieranpalmer1995
    kieranpalmer1995 Posts: 63 Member
    jkwolly wrote: »
    Peanut butter, fuller fat milk, flax seed oil/coconut oil
    coconut oil in post workout? Does it taste nice also?

  • terizius
    terizius Posts: 425 Member
    Do you currently track your calories? Open your diary for decent, relevant meal replacement ideas.
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    Peanut buttah fo DAYZ :sunglasses:
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    5000? You know nothing about the OP's TDEE. Men can gain approx half a pound of muscle a week, so best bet is adding 3500 extra cals on top of tdee per week or 500 per day, that will give him a pound a week gain (fat gain is unavoidable, full stop).
    If he's maintaining at 2300 per day (correct OP?) then 2800-3000 is right..


  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    draznyth wrote: »
    Peanut buttah fo DAYZ :sunglasses:

    I really need you in my life...
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    nut butters, nuts, avocados, more meat, FOOD.
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Lol, I'd just eat bacon with it. If not, the other suggestions with peanut butter, etc. are good. Look just to add some fat to your diet. Avocados, nuts, oils.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    Why so elitist?! Bacon with peanut butter!

    my mom used to make me pb and bacon sandwiches on toast before hockey games. idk if it helped me at all but goddamn theyre delicious.
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  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    draznyth wrote: »
    Peanut buttah fo DAYZ :sunglasses:

    I really need you in my life...

    This thread caused me to make peanut butter my dinner. <3
  • nerdygymrat9
    nerdygymrat9 Posts: 163 Member
    Agreed with everyone else, peanut butter for the win! Also, lightly salted almonds are an awesome snack! And a little ice cream never hurts either ;)
  • I'm gonna round off numbers here.But protein and carbs are both at 4 calories per gram,while fat is 9 calories per gram.
    So adding fats will easily bump up calories.However,I would suggest healthy fats like avocado,nuts,mct oil ( pure medium chain triglicerides )
    But my biggest suggestion would be to increase your daily calorie intake.
  • neaneacc
    neaneacc Posts: 224 Member
    You can try different oils that are calorie dense (like olive oil) in your protein shakes to add more calories.
  • karrysalexi
    karrysalexi Posts: 62 Member
    I am
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    I am a student I can't buy that much food that's why I try to get 2.3k

    I am a student too but if you truly want to change your body 2,300 calories is not going to cut it. As far muscle development goes your intake is only enough to keep them operating but thermodynamics is the key. Calories in calories out.
  • karrysalexi
    karrysalexi Posts: 62 Member
    edited April 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.
    Please refrain from giving bulking advice until you know what you are talking about. Thank you.

    I can't delete my post because I don't know how but you obviously know more than me so instead of attacking me please give him advice. I just want to help.
  • nerdygymrat9
    nerdygymrat9 Posts: 163 Member
    edited April 2015
    I am
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    I am a student I can't buy that much food that's why I try to get 2.3k

    I am a student too but if you truly want to change your body 2,300 calories is not going to cut it. As far muscle development goes your intake is only enough to keep them operating but thermodynamics is the key. Calories in calories out.

    ^ I am a college student as well and I agree that 2,300 is not enough for bulking though not that high of a number for sure. How much are you able to spend on food?
  • karrysalexi
    karrysalexi Posts: 62 Member
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    5000? You know nothing about the OP's TDEE. Men can gain approx half a pound of muscle a week, so best bet is adding 3500 extra cals on top of tdee per week or 500 per day, that will give him a pound a week gain (fat gain is unavoidable, full stop).
    If he's maintaining at 2300 per day (correct OP?) then 2800-3000 is right..


    He asked to gain weight I simply gave him a solution that has worked for me.
  • karrysalexi
    karrysalexi Posts: 62 Member
    I am
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    I am a student I can't buy that much food that's why I try to get 2.3k

    I am a student too but if you truly want to change your body 2,300 calories is not going to cut it. As far muscle development goes your intake is only enough to keep them operating but thermodynamics is the key. Calories in calories out.

    ^ I am a college student as well but I agree that 2,300 is not enough for bulking. Sometimes you must get creative with what you are given and see if you can come up with some more calorie dense foods so you can hit your goals for the day.

    Finally someone who doesn't agree that eating like a mouse will get results.
  • nerdygymrat9
    nerdygymrat9 Posts: 163 Member
    edited April 2015
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    5000? You know nothing about the OP's TDEE. Men can gain approx half a pound of muscle a week, so best bet is adding 3500 extra cals on top of tdee per week or 500 per day, that will give him a pound a week gain (fat gain is unavoidable, full stop).
    If he's maintaining at 2300 per day (correct OP?) then 2800-3000 is right..


    He asked to gain weight I simply gave him a solution that has worked for me.

    Springfield is definitely someone on the forums who has a great deal of knowledge on this type of subject so her advice is definitely solid. 5,000 may work for you but your stats are different than his. If he is maintaining at around 2,300 calories he should increase by around 500 calories or 2,800 instead of more than doubling it to 5,000.

  • karrysalexi
    karrysalexi Posts: 62 Member
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    5000? You know nothing about the OP's TDEE. Men can gain approx half a pound of muscle a week, so best bet is adding 3500 extra cals on top of tdee per week or 500 per day, that will give him a pound a week gain (fat gain is unavoidable, full stop).
    If he's maintaining at 2300 per day (correct OP?) then 2800-3000 is right..


    He asked to gain weight I simply gave him a solution that has worked for me.

    Springfield is definitely someone on the forums who has a great deal of knowledge on this type of subject so her advice is definitely solid. 5,000 may work for you but your stats are different than his. If he is maintaining at around 2,300 calories he should increase by around 500 calories or 2,800 instead of more than doubling it to 5,000.

    That makes sense. I just find that it is hard to gain anything for me that doesn't have at least 3500 calories in a diet. I'm a hard gainer.
  • nerdygymrat9
    nerdygymrat9 Posts: 163 Member
    I am
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    I am a student I can't buy that much food that's why I try to get 2.3k

    I am a student too but if you truly want to change your body 2,300 calories is not going to cut it. As far muscle development goes your intake is only enough to keep them operating but thermodynamics is the key. Calories in calories out.

    ^ I am a college student as well but I agree that 2,300 is not enough for bulking. Sometimes you must get creative with what you are given and see if you can come up with some more calorie dense foods so you can hit your goals for the day.

    Finally someone who doesn't agree that eating like a mouse will get results.

    Eating like a mouse? I think it is important to understand that everyone has different caloric needs. When I started about 2 months ago, I was able to gain like half of a pound a week on 2550 since my maintenance was close to 2300 as well actually and over time I increased it. Everyone is different so it's important to keep that in mind. People like MityMax, Ninerbuff, Springfield, MrM27 and several others are very knowledgeable when it comes to fitness so definitely listen to what they have to say OP (and you too Alexi). They can help you go a long way here.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    5000? You know nothing about the OP's TDEE. Men can gain approx half a pound of muscle a week, so best bet is adding 3500 extra cals on top of tdee per week or 500 per day, that will give him a pound a week gain (fat gain is unavoidable, full stop).
    If he's maintaining at 2300 per day (correct OP?) then 2800-3000 is right..


    He asked to gain weight I simply gave him a solution that has worked for me.

    Springfield is definitely someone on the forums who has a great deal of knowledge on this type of subject so her advice is definitely solid. 5,000 may work for you but your stats are different than his. If he is maintaining at around 2,300 calories he should increase by around 500 calories or 2,800 instead of more than doubling it to 5,000.

    That makes sense. I just find that it is hard to gain anything for me that doesn't have at least 3500 calories in a diet. I'm a hard gainer.

    Sorry we came down on you hard. I think the problem is, you are a different weight and height to the OP. I trusted his maintenance was 2300, and looking at his profile pic, it could be right. You look like a different kind of size. Also, there is activity to take into consideration. I hope you stick around because the knowledge here is second to none and can save us all a lot of time and effort.

  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    5000? You know nothing about the OP's TDEE. Men can gain approx half a pound of muscle a week, so best bet is adding 3500 extra cals on top of tdee per week or 500 per day, that will give him a pound a week gain (fat gain is unavoidable, full stop).
    If he's maintaining at 2300 per day (correct OP?) then 2800-3000 is right..


    He asked to gain weight I simply gave him a solution that has worked for me.

    Springfield is definitely someone on the forums who has a great deal of knowledge on this type of subject so her advice is definitely solid. 5,000 may work for you but your stats are different than his. If he is maintaining at around 2,300 calories he should increase by around 500 calories or 2,800 instead of more than doubling it to 5,000.

    That makes sense. I just find that it is hard to gain anything for me that doesn't have at least 3500 calories in a diet. I'm a hard gainer.

    To be honest, and especially given your age, maintaining on 3,500 calories (I am assuming its around that based on your comment) is not that unusual - I would not call you a hard gainer. Also, if you are maintaining on 3,500, the 5,000 would have you gaining too quickly to be effective. You have all the right traits (on paper) to gain muscle quickly compared to others (young male), but there is still a limit.

    Have a listen to this video (OP too) - its by Eric Helms from 3DMJ. You should watch the whole thing (actually the whole series is gold), but the bulking calories discussion starts at about the 14:10 mark.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAvW6xBZjSk


    It also discusses the range people have with their maintenance calories.
  • karrysalexi
    karrysalexi Posts: 62 Member
    I am male 19 yrs old. 2.3k calories a day I need 500 more calories need something to add to my protein shake to help that. I am buyying serious mass in July when I can afford it. I am a student

    I consume over 4000 calories a day and weigh 162 pounds right now. What I would recommend is more than 2,300 calories. 2300 is enough for maintenance but if you want to add muscle and weight fast spike protein levels and carbs than add in healthy fats like avocados and olive oil. I also use Creatine Monohydrate to give muscles water retention. For your goal I would recommend 5,000 calories a day to get started.

    5000? You know nothing about the OP's TDEE. Men can gain approx half a pound of muscle a week, so best bet is adding 3500 extra cals on top of tdee per week or 500 per day, that will give him a pound a week gain (fat gain is unavoidable, full stop).
    If he's maintaining at 2300 per day (correct OP?) then 2800-3000 is right..


    He asked to gain weight I simply gave him a solution that has worked for me.

    Springfield is definitely someone on the forums who has a great deal of knowledge on this type of subject so her advice is definitely solid. 5,000 may work for you but your stats are different than his. If he is maintaining at around 2,300 calories he should increase by around 500 calories or 2,800 instead of more than doubling it to 5,000.

    That makes sense. I just find that it is hard to gain anything for me that doesn't have at least 3500 calories in a diet. I'm a hard gainer.

    Sorry we came down on you hard. I think the problem is, you are a different weight and height to the OP. I trusted his maintenance was 2300, and looking at his profile pic, it could be right. You look like a different kind of size. Also, there is activity to take into consideration. I hope you stick around because the knowledge here is second to none and can save us all a lot of time and effort.

    It's fine I'm here to learn.
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