Martial Arts

RosieRose7673
RosieRose7673 Posts: 438 Member
edited November 17 in Fitness and Exercise
I was just wondering if anyone here does any form of martial arts? Tai Kwon Do, karate, etc?

I kind of want to start taking classes. It seems like fun! What is your preference? Any suggestions?
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  • RosieRose7673
    RosieRose7673 Posts: 438 Member
    Just wanted to add... There's a studio right around the corner from my apartment. I looked them up and they specialize in Muay Thai.

    I'm so interested in doing it!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,024 Member
    Muay Thai rocks!!! As a kickboxing instructor, I can say that the workouts alone are tough. Plus all the striking thickens your bones to a much higher degree than lifting, cycling, or yoga.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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  • gonebeast
    gonebeast Posts: 102 Member
    I did MMA, boxing and Muay Thai for a year. I went from a size 30 waist to a 34 waist. It made my core wider. MT is awesome, I was in pain 24/7 too so just be prepared and get ur gear. Shin pads and gloves
  • RosieRose7673
    RosieRose7673 Posts: 438 Member
    Okay... So you recommend it? I seriously know absolutely nothing about it. The place accepts beginners apparently. It has good reviews on yelp!

    I just think it'd be fun to do! Maybe I should try to recruit one of my friends to join me! I'm kind of nervous!
  • shadowfax_c11
    shadowfax_c11 Posts: 1,942 Member
    I practice Aikido. I started six years ago in May and a currently preparing to take my shodan test. :) To be honest deciding to start practicing this art was a major turning point in my life. I often wish I had found it sooner.
  • RosieRose7673
    RosieRose7673 Posts: 438 Member
    Oh wow! Okay! Sounds like you all enjoy it!!

    Eep! I think I'll do it. I'll probably hop on over there to inquire about stuff in a few days!

    @gonebeast that's awesome! My waist is small as is... But my hips are as well. I don't have many curves. Kind of a ruler. I don't really care if my waist were to get bigger due to muscle! That's fine by me!
  • shadowfax_c11
    shadowfax_c11 Posts: 1,942 Member
    Rosie just go and visit the dojo. Don't just go to one but visit as many in your area as you can. They will usually allow you to try a class or two before you join. After you visit a few you can choose the one that feels right to you.

    Be sure to ask about the fees and how they do ranking. There are many ranks between beginners and black belt and then there are many ranks after black belt. Each rank usually requires a test and there are usually fees for those tests. It can get rather expensive. You will also want to know if there are association fees. A dojo is usually affiliated with some organization through which rank is issued.

    If you take a competitive art (aikido is not competitive) ask about competitions and what will be expected of you as a student of that dojo.

    Ask who the senior instructors and dojo cho are and what the lineage of the dojo is. If they can't tel you who their teachers teachers were clearly there could be (not always) some issues with the validity of your teachers abilities.

    Joining a dojo is not really like joining a gym. You become a member of a kind of family. There can be a lot of etiquette expectations of a student. You don't just show up and work on your own stuff. You show up so that other people can also work on theirs.

    Again I have found martial arts to be a wonderful and important part of my life. But it takes a level of commitment and finding the right fit for you. Take your time before you make a decision.
  • RosieRose7673
    RosieRose7673 Posts: 438 Member
    Rosie just go and visit the dojo. Don't just go to one but visit as many in your area as you can. They will usually allow you to try a class or two before you join. After you visit a few you can choose the one that feels right to you.

    Be sure to ask about the fees and how they do ranking. There are many ranks between beginners and black belt and then there are many ranks after black belt. Each rank usually requires a test and there are usually fees for those tests. It can get rather expensive. You will also want to know if there are association fees. A dojo is usually affiliated with some organization through which rank is issued.

    If you take a competitive art (aikido is not competitive) ask about competitions and what will be expected of you as a student of that dojo.

    Ask who the senior instructors and dojo cho are and what the lineage of the dojo is. If they can't tel you who their teachers teachers were clearly there could be (not always) some issues with the validity of your teachers abilities.

    Joining a dojo is not really like joining a gym. You become a member of a kind of family. There can be a lot of etiquette expectations of a student. You don't just show up and work on your own stuff. You show up so that other people can also work on theirs.

    Again I have found martial arts to be a wonderful and important part of my life. But it takes a level of commitment and finding the right fit for you. Take your time before you make a decision.

    Oh thank you for all the tips! I appreciate it!

    I live in a big city and I saw a bunch around my area within walking distance. The one I was talking about is literally like 2 minutes away. Haha!

    I'll go to a few in the next few weeks. I think I'll write down some of what you said so I remember to ask it all.

    Thanks again!
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    Rosie just go and visit the dojo. Don't just go to one but visit as many in your area as you can. They will usually allow you to try a class or two before you join. After you visit a few you can choose the one that feels right to you.

    Be sure to ask about the fees and how they do ranking. There are many ranks between beginners and black belt and then there are many ranks after black belt. Each rank usually requires a test and there are usually fees for those tests. It can get rather expensive. You will also want to know if there are association fees. A dojo is usually affiliated with some organization through which rank is issued.

    If you take a competitive art (aikido is not competitive) ask about competitions and what will be expected of you as a student of that dojo.

    Ask who the senior instructors and dojo cho are and what the lineage of the dojo is. If they can't tel you who their teachers teachers were clearly there could be (not always) some issues with the validity of your teachers abilities.

    Joining a dojo is not really like joining a gym. You become a member of a kind of family. There can be a lot of etiquette expectations of a student. You don't just show up and work on your own stuff. You show up so that other people can also work on theirs.

    Again I have found martial arts to be a wonderful and important part of my life. But it takes a level of commitment and finding the right fit for you. Take your time before you make a decision.

    lots of good info here.

    i did tae kwon do when i was younger. a sport and competition martial art, but it's losing a lot of ground due to the MMA and Muay Thai.

    When i started getting back into fitness, i tried looking into martial arts. i found a great MMA gym that offered all kinds of classes, including Muay Thai, Brazilian Juijitsu, and even had kettlebell and strength training classes, and even had a gym upstairs (no squat rack though, only a smith machine). it was a little too expensive for me, and also a bit out of the way from where i lived.

    like shadowfax said, shop around. some places might let you take a couple of free classes, others might limit you to just one, or none at all. find out about how they handle ranks and bumping up to the next level (if they garuntee you a black belt in X amount of years, or promise you a promotion every year, it might not be the right kind of school for you or any one). there are no federal regulations with maritial arts. literally anyone can open up a dojo and call themselves master, so there is a lot to consider.

    ask about promotional offers, like if you pay for 11 months do you get the 12th free? do you have to pay an initiation fee? are uniforms included?

    find out when the classes are. will they fit into your schedule? will you be able to make it there regularly? if you want to go before or after work, is it on your way to work?? etc etc.
  • Camarose79
    Camarose79 Posts: 86 Member
    I was fat and out of shape my entire adult life. I never did any kind of sports or exercise. I lived right next to a karate school and my then bf kept bugging me to go. Well I took the free lesson then I signed up. I took karate for 2.5 years! I lost 34 lbs and I have my green belt. My worst mistake was "taking a break" from it after breaking up with the bf and moving/buying my house. In 2 years I gained all the weight back. Recently I wanted to go back to the dojo and I found that they had sold the building and moved :( (I'm just doing some group circuit training now and trying to lose the weight again)
  • johcha
    johcha Posts: 1 Member
    The popularity of MMA has created slot of hybrid gyms where they will offer a mix of striking skills (e.g., Muay Thai) and ground based skills (e.g. jujitsu). I've done Muay Thai for a few years and just started to do little jujitsu recently. They are both awesome cardio workouts in addition to having some practical applications.

    Shadowfox mad a good point that finding the right gym is really important. Most classes requires require you to pair off with other student to practice techniques. You quickly end up building trust with each other as you're often looking out for each others safety while trying to execute some martial skill or sparing session.

    One last suggestion is something like Krav Maga. I find those classes really useful. The lethal nature of some of those techniques limit how hard you can practice them on each other. Depending on what you're practicing those classes can be a good work out.
  • Life0fbrian
    Life0fbrian Posts: 69 Member
    muay thai and bjj here
  • redrobot5050
    redrobot5050 Posts: 43 Member
    So @RosieRose7673 how did your visit to the Muay Thai gym go? Did you like it? Are you sticking with it?
  • fishgutzy
    fishgutzy Posts: 2,807 Member
    MT is murder on the joints.
    I trained in Tang Soo Do for 7 years until the third doctor told me to stop if I wanted to avoid more surgery. Getting one toe cut off, ground down, and screwed back on is enough.
    Loved it. Trained with my kids. My son could kick me up side the head by the time he was 9.
    Can't train in any martial art now because I can't do impact on my feet. But wish I could. I miss it.
  • ltworide
    ltworide Posts: 342 Member
    I started Krav Maga back in September & love it. I find it a great workout & more importantly really like the real world application of what I'm learning. It's not used in any competition but you can earn belts.
  • Burger2066
    Burger2066 Posts: 126 Member
    I did Krav Maga for a while, but my knee can't handle a lot of it right now. It is a heck of a workout and a great way to burn calories without getting bored. Haha.
  • IzzyBooNZ1
    IzzyBooNZ1 Posts: 1,289 Member
    I do muay thai ! I don't fight but I like the classes. So much fun !. Always a good hard workout. Great after a day at work to kick, knee, elbow, punch the pads or bags ! The trainers are great ( they are all Thai ) . Check out some gyms, look up reviews, get a good feel. You want to enjoy where you go and want to go there!

    Gear wise, I just wear shorts and a singlet, make sure your shorts or pants are stretchy to allows kicks. Our classes are always barefoot.

    If you do stick to it and buy your own gear, get good quality gloves... don't waste your money on cheapos. They won't last and you can end up injuring yourself. I use 10 oz raja gloves in classes. Twins, Fairtex and Top King are also good. I ordered mine from http://www.muaythaifactory.com/ and there's also http://www.muaythaistuff.com/

    I always use hand wraps , extra protection and to stop my gloves from stinking.

    You shouldn't need shin guards unless you start sparring which shouldn't happen til you've had a few months training and your trainers approval.
  • andyjl84
    andyjl84 Posts: 27 Member
    I do taekwondo, only been doing it for a few months. I used to do jujitsu when I was younger n fancied something to get my flexibility back, it's really good for that and all the sparring keeps the weight down. Somebody was telling me they managed to loose 2 stone and put it down to this... Obviously with a good diet
  • YoshiCow
    YoshiCow Posts: 77 Member
    I started taekwondo about 5 weeks back. Twice a week, absolutely love it so far.
  • cgvet37
    cgvet37 Posts: 1,189 Member
    I studied Tae Kwon Do for about a year and a half. It was great for endurance and strength. I would normally attend 2-3 classes a day.
  • wonko221
    wonko221 Posts: 292 Member
    I play judo and aikido, and love what martial arts have done for my life. I encourage you to go out and visit a number of dojos.

    the number one thing to be aware of is that there is poor quality control in martial arts schools. It can be quite tough to tell a good school from a bad one, particularly if you don't know what to look for.

    For myself, i would look at:
    1. Are the students safe? If you see a pattern of people regularly getting injured badly enough to have to miss practice, the teachers aren't running a safe program.
    2. Is the school clean and well-equipped? It's pricey to furnish and run a school. But there is no excuse for poor conditions. If the equipment is torn, is it mended quickly? Do they sweep/mop the floors regularly? Are any locker rooms/restroom clean and stocked?
    3. Is there a good vibe? Some formality can be expected, but in some programs they encourage cultish devotion to the teacher/style/lineage - in my experience, if the practitioners aren't smiling at least some of the time, i don't want to be there.
    4. Finally - will they give you clear expectations? They should be able to provide you with a solid idea of how frequently you can take class, and average time to advance in grade. On top of that, they should be able to tell you their fee structure, including sign up, monthly (or per-class), annual, testing fees, organization fees, competition fees, etc. Some schools don't have all these fees... just don't let them surprise you!

    When all is said and done, finding a good MA program can be a life changer. I have a level of trust and affection with the people that i throw, and get thrown by, that rivals my best friends from off the mat. You can't beat the feeling of fighting somebody ferociously, and then getting up and shaking their hand in gratitude for whuppin ya!
  • duguth
    duguth Posts: 3 Member
    I just want to echo what @wonko221 said. It's everything I wanted to say, more eloquently than I would've done.
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
    Depends on your goal, a good workout, fun, or learning the art. To add to @shadowfax_c11 pay attention who is actually leading the training. Many commercial store front substitute their black belt candidates to lead the class and water down the significance of the black belt to signify the start/beginning journey of learning the art.
  • wonko221
    wonko221 Posts: 292 Member
    kcjchang wrote: »
    Depends on your goal, a good workout, fun, or learning the art. To add to @shadowfax_c11 pay attention who is actually leading the training. Many commercial store front substitute their black belt candidates to lead the class and water down the significance of the black belt to signify the start/beginning journey of learning the art.

    I'm curious about the "water down the significance of the black belt to signify the start/beginning journey of learning the art." statement.

    I hold a 2nd degree black belt in judo, and 1st degree in aikido. I'm confident in myself, but at the same time know a lot of people that can kick my *kitten*. I'm definitely still on the start of the path to developing my understanding/mastery.

    What does a black belt mean to you?
  • shadowfax_c11
    shadowfax_c11 Posts: 1,942 Member
    I don't know what that water down statement is about. I started leading classes now and again when I was 5th kyu. Something like 5 years ago. I took my Shodan last June. One of my instructors told me that she had a regular class that she was teaching at 4th kyu purely because she was the only one available to lead the class.

    Often a dojo cho will have their lower dans lead classes because really they do a better job of teaching basic technique and it frees the higher ranking sensei up to spend the time to continue the training of the black belts in the dojo. It also means they can continue their own growth by using higher ranking lower dan students as uke. Those students are going to be better able (in many if not all cases) to provide the feedback and withstand the intensity of a high ranking martial artist throwing them around the room.

    My own dojo is quite small and the head instructors teach almost all of the classes. As a fairly new shodan and my teacher's senior student. I often find that I have the problem of not being able to really spend time furthering my own training because my teachers are bogged down with teaching basics to beginners and I of course am helping them with this.

    If anything a higher ranking sensei teaching beginners is not going to be as able progress they way they should as a high ranking sensei who allows his junior dans to teach the kyu ranks while they focus more on their black belt students.

    I do see shodan as just the beginning. The way I look at it everything before shodan is kinda like grade school through high school. You learn your ABC's and 123's (basic technique)

    Mitsugi Saotome sensei expects at Shodan that we know good basic technique. At Nidan we develop smoothness and power. At Sandan we should be starting to make the art our own.

  • kuftae
    kuftae Posts: 299 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Muay Thai rocks!!! As a kickboxing instructor, I can say that the workouts alone are tough. Plus all the striking thickens your bones to a much higher degree than lifting, cycling, or yoga.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    Don;t doubt this is true.

    I got heavily into muai thai and bjj a while ago, stopped lifting and lost a ton of mass (some of it was fat though). Don't be stupid like me if you want to look jak'd n tan as well as being a badass.
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
    wonko221 wrote: »
    What does a black belt mean to you?

    A significant achievement and mastery of the fundamentals of the craft.

    Only familiar with JKA and to test for black it requires mastery of nine katas (movement, form, power, rhythm, and expansion and contraction of the body) and demonstrate correct power and speed, and, above all, exercise good control of three type of kumite (basic, ippon, & jiyu). I only took JKA Shotokan for three years and reached the first belt (yellow); I wasn't the fastest learner nor the slowest (mom didn't want a fighter and took it up doing college).

    I have a number of good friends from various martial arts back ground who are third to fourth degree black belts. All old school and devote their entire youth (6ish to mid twenties; e.g. live, drink, eat, and sleep) to achieve it. One friend's father runs a dojo and is a sixth degree black belt. That school is very traditional. His son, a third degree black belt opened two dojos and followed the commercial route (test every month or so and tons of strips and color belts for each of ten levels). He does not bother with true teaching until his students test for black. His business plan is carbon copy of some of the biggest franchised dojos in SF Bay Area.
  • ohpiper
    ohpiper Posts: 697 Member
    I absolutely love Krav Maga. It is very practically oriented. It incorporates a variety of disciplines and we work on scenarios including self defense in situations where the attacker may be approaching you with a variety of weapons. We work on single attacker and multiple attacker situations.
  • Soy_K
    Soy_K Posts: 246 Member
    I've been doing Shaolin style kung fu and recently started modern Chinese wushu. Both aren't as "martial" as other martial arts, but are more performance based these days. My classes concentrate mostly on forms and jumping, but for a workout that combines agility, flexibility, and endurance these styles are great. In conjunction I have started basic acrobatics classes to help me learn to jump and flip more safely since I'm kinda old!
  • aikilady
    aikilady Posts: 35 Member
    edited August 2016
    Highly highly recommend martial arts!!
    3rd degree brown belt in Aikijitsu here; been training for over 15 years. I have also done Krav Maga and taekwondo, and just recently started training Brazilian jujitsu six months ago.
    Every art has its own set of benefits. Taekwondo was my least personal fav but I have actually enjoyed every art I've ever trained in.
    Krav Maga is in my opinion the most realistic for self defense purposes. Brazilian jujitsu has been the most challenging mentally and physically to me so far.
    I don't even know who I would be today without the Martial Arts. I believe it has kept me lean and healthy my entire adult life.
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