Cutting when not having much Muscle?

Chirdis
Chirdis Posts: 24 Member
edited November 17 in Health and Weight Loss
So I've been lifting for quite a long time.. couple months.. mistakes here and there.. which is why not much progress at the moment... but..

5'6
140 pounds

I'm eating 1900 a day when my TDEE is 2200

I want the big muscles.. I want to see them grow... do I have to eat over my TDEE for them to grow...?..

Can they grow without gaining much fat?... I know lean muscle and all but I am so *kitten* lost...

I'm eating 20% under my TDEE.. hitting 1g of protein per body weight.. and hitting all my macros for around 5 days now but...

Will they grow and get big?...


I used to way 220 pounds of pure fat and have a tiny bit of loose skin..

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  • rdouma73
    rdouma73 Posts: 2,064 Member
    You must eat over your TDEE for your body to grow. No way around it.
  • Chirdis
    Chirdis Posts: 24 Member
    rdouma73 wrote: »
    You must eat over your TDEE for your body to grow. No way around it.

    So does a clean bulk sound good?..

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  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    Is 2200 less 20% 1900?

    My understanding is you muscles aren't going to grow much in a deficit.
  • Chirdis
    Chirdis Posts: 24 Member
    Merkavar wrote: »
    Is 2200 less 20% 1900?

    My understanding is you muscles aren't going to grow much in a deficit.

    Well no.. I was eating 1700-1800.. but just pumped it up to 1900 yesterday.. 1900 is not 20%.. correct..



  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    Chirdis wrote: »
    So I've been lifting for quite a long time.. couple months.. mistakes here and there.. which is why not much progress at the moment... but..

    5'6
    140 pounds

    I'm eating 1900 a day when my TDEE is 2200

    I want the big muscles.. I want to see them grow... do I have to eat over my TDEE for them to grow...?..

    Can they grow without gaining much fat?... I know lean muscle and all but I am so *kitten* lost...

    I'm eating 20% under my TDEE.. hitting 1g of protein per body weight.. and hitting all my macros for around 5 days now but...

    Will they grow and get big?...


    I used to way 220 pounds of pure fat and have a tiny bit of loose skin..

    Yes you have to eat over your TDEE and lift for them to grow.

    You will gain some fat...no way around it.

    1g of protein per body weight is a bit high...try for 0.8grams.

    and not to harp on you but lifting for a couple months is not that long....I have been for almost 2 years and still considered on the low end of intermediate.

  • Chirdis
    Chirdis Posts: 24 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Chirdis wrote: »
    So I've been lifting for quite a long time.. couple months.. mistakes here and there.. which is why not much progress at the moment... but..

    5'6
    140 pounds

    I'm eating 1900 a day when my TDEE is 2200

    I want the big muscles.. I want to see them grow... do I have to eat over my TDEE for them to grow...?..

    Can they grow without gaining much fat?... I know lean muscle and all but I am so *kitten* lost...

    I'm eating 20% under my TDEE.. hitting 1g of protein per body weight.. and hitting all my macros for around 5 days now but...

    Will they grow and get big?...


    I used to way 220 pounds of pure fat and have a tiny bit of loose skin..

    Yes you have to eat over your TDEE and lift for them to grow.

    You will gain some fat...no way around it.

    1g of protein per body weight is a bit high...try for 0.8grams.

    and not to harp on you but lifting for a couple months is not that long....I have been for almost 2 years and still considered on the low end of intermediate.

    Not harping me.. telling me like it is.. I know...

    Thanks a billion though Stef

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I would suggest going over to the gaining forum and reading the sticky over there…

    but here is what you need to do ..

    Eat at about 250 calories over maintenance for a half pound per week gain.
    taking starting measurements
    get on a structured lifting program like strong lifts, starting strength, etc.
    I forget the grams for your macros ,but you can set the percents at 45% carbs; 30% protein, and 25% fats that should get you close to where you need to be..
    make sure you eat nutrition dense foods, but there is nothing wrong with calorie dense foods like ice cream, pizza, cookies, etc; just make sure that you are hitting your micros as well as macros…
    repeat until you get desired results…

    oh and you are going to gain fat, no way around that one…more than likely it will be 1:1 to fat to muscle..so ten pound gain should equate to five pounds of muscle and five pounds of fat….
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  • Chirdis
    Chirdis Posts: 24 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Since you're asking that question I'm going to assume you have never really lifted. Cutting if that is the case isn't the best idea. If you are as I suspect, under trained then you could easily eat around maintenance while starting a proper training program and make some decent progress. But I'm talking over a few months, not weeks.

    Can you address the non lifting past above.

    I've lifted.. uneducated-ly.. haha uhh

    I have a good schedule atm.. it's just diet and such right now I guess...
    STILL LEARNING =D
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Why would you be cutting if you want muscles? You need to EAT in a surplus for muscles.
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