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Veggies and fruits count as calories?

angellll12
angellll12 Posts: 296 Member
edited November 2024 in Food and Nutrition
I know some diets that don't count veggies and fruits as calories. I do anyways but I was wondering if your diet consist of mainly that can you still gain weight?

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  • itschanelle
    itschanelle Posts: 86 Member
    Yes, absolutely. A lot of fruits (dare I say most?) have a lot of calories in them. I can easily put down 400 calories of apple and banana and still be hungry. As for veggies, that would be unlikely unless you count avocado (technically a fruit) and potatoes and other higher calorie ones. Also, you NEED fat and protein and you won't get those things (with few exceptions) from mainly fruits and veggies. Eat a variety of foods and just count everything.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,668 Member
    A single large banana can be 150+ calories. On a 1200 a day diet, that's an eighth of your day.

    Weight Watchers and the like say fruit and veg are 0 points to encourage you to eat them instead of something else. Someone might reach for an apple instead of a cookie if the apple is 0 points and the cookie is 2 points. But they also give you a very low daily Points goal on the assumption that you will have fruits and veg, so it is still counted, only by them when calculating your goal and not by you when you add your food.

  • FaylinaMeir
    FaylinaMeir Posts: 661 Member
    1500 calories of celery is NOT the same as 1500 calories of ice cream smh :dizzy:
  • mkakids
    mkakids Posts: 1,913 Member
    You can definitely overeat fruits and veggies. A medium bananna has around 100 calories each, large Apple 150 calories, cup of grapes 100 calories.

    I could easily eat enough to gain weight on.
  • angellll12
    angellll12 Posts: 296 Member
    There's this really popular girl on YouTube who says you can eat as much fruit as you want and you won't gain weight. And there's a whole bunch of people who follow her diet who agree. So what the heck.

    Don't think I can say her YouTube channel due to mfp rules.
  • NorthWoodsLee
    NorthWoodsLee Posts: 92 Member
    edited May 2015
    Yes, but I find it hard to believe that anyone could 1,500 calories of celery in a day. The great thing about most vegetables and even fruit is that they are nutrient dense, not calorie dense. A 4" stalk of celery is 1 calorie. So you'd have to eat 1,500 4" stalks of celery to consume 1,500 calories. I'm guessing you'd be too full for that calorie dense dessert. :)
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,668 Member
    angellll12 wrote: »
    There's this really popular girl on YouTube who says you can eat as much fruit as you want and you won't gain weight. And there's a whole bunch of people who follow her diet who agree. So what the heck.

    Don't think I can say her YouTube channel due to mfp rules.

    I know exactly who you're talking about, and she is an idiot.
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  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,668 Member
    FaylinaMeir wrote: »
    1500 calories of celery is NOT the same as 1500 calories of ice cream smh :dizzy:

    Not nutritionally, no. But on a pure calorie basis, yes it is. A calorie is a measurement of energy. That's like saying a pound of ice cream is not the same as a pound of celery. They're both a pound. The relative benefits thereof are a completely different matter.


    Though, given the macros, you'd be better off on 1500 of ice cream a day than 1500 celery if that's all you were eating. At least the ice cream has dietary fat and protein.
  • angellll12
    angellll12 Posts: 296 Member
    So say you eat veggies for breakfast, lunch, dinner and In between just snack on fruit- and stick to a healthy calorie intake, you won't lose weight?
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  • Calliope610
    Calliope610 Posts: 3,783 Member
    angellll12 wrote: »
    So say you eat veggies for breakfast, lunch, dinner and In between just snack on fruit- and stick to a healthy calorie intake, you won't lose weight?

    If that "healthy calorie intake" is a surplus over TDEE, you won't lose weight. If the "healthy calorie intake" is a deficit, yes, you will lose weight.

  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,668 Member
    angellll12 wrote: »
    So say you eat veggies for breakfast, lunch, dinner and In between just snack on fruit- and stick to a healthy calorie intake, you won't lose weight?

    You would as long as you were consuming less calories than you burn in a day (not just by exercising, but also simply living). You'd probably lose on that because it would be very hard to go over calories on just fruit and veg, but you would also miss out on vital nutrients and likely have satiety and satisfaction issues.
  • FaylinaMeir
    FaylinaMeir Posts: 661 Member
    The banana freak also does like 2000 calories of exercise 4 times a week if you check out her strava, but she doesn't consider that excessive. Well I wish I could say climbing hills for 90 minutes wasn't excessive. So yeah she advises you eat as much as you want but do that diet without exercising and you'll be in bad.

    Having done that "diet" for well over a year I can tell you that it doesn't work great for all (most from what I've seen). But what do I know, if it works for you then go for it. :neutral:
  • angellll12
    angellll12 Posts: 296 Member
    FaylinaMeir wrote: »
    The banana freak also does like 2000 calories of exercise 4 times a week if you check out her strava, but she doesn't consider that excessive. Well I wish I could say climbing hills for 90 minutes wasn't excessive. So yeah she advises you eat as much as you want but do that diet without exercising and you'll be in bad.

    Having done that "diet" for well over a year I can tell you that it doesn't work great for all (most from what I've seen). But what do I know, if it works for you then go for it. :neutral:

    Lmao you knew exactly who I was talking about!

    She doesn't even push the fact the u must workout a lot. Pretty sure she's said you don't even have to work out that much on that diet.
  • angellll12
    angellll12 Posts: 296 Member
    angellll12 wrote: »
    FaylinaMeir wrote: »
    The banana freak also does like 2000 calories of exercise 4 times a week if you check out her strava, but she doesn't consider that excessive. Well I wish I could say climbing hills for 90 minutes wasn't excessive. So yeah she advises you eat as much as you want but do that diet without exercising and you'll be in bad.

    Having done that "diet" for well over a year I can tell you that it doesn't work great for all (most from what I've seen). But what do I know, if it works for you then go for it. :neutral:

    Lmao you knew exactly who I was talking about!

    She doesn't even push the fact the u must workout a lot. Pretty sure she's said you don't even have to work out that much on that diet.

    She stays skinny like that eating giant bowls of white carbs too. Idk something is funky about her.
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    This magic diet you are looking for, where you can eat unlimited amounts of food, stay healthy and have a low weight? It does nto exist :)
  • RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld Posts: 5,864 Member
    That sounds very unhealthy, we need fats to insulate and move the fat soluble vitamins around our bodies. We need protein for repair.
    Diets that restrict whole food groups are stupid. Just eat natural foods to a calorie deficit and your weight will come down.
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