Sugar as poison
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so let me get this right OP ...you are saying that if I have hit my micronutrients for the day, and then I eat added sugar that the sugar then drains of said micros and I need to consume more to make up for them???
is that really what you are saying?
sugar, the new vampire....0 -
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ceoverturf wrote: »I don't always read science...
But when I do, it's a 40 year old manuscript based on ~60 year old studies
(You'll just have to imagine the most interesting man gif)
I like to take my science from a time of mass Communist hysteria.-1 -
What is the MD50 of sucrose?0
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ceoverturf wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »Okay, yeah, ha ha, very funny etc... But is there anyone with some knowledge of nutrition and digestion that can comment on the validity (or otherwise) of what was written?
Yes, can we please get someone with knowledge of nutrition and digestion to let us know if sugar will turn us into witches?
(This is a time-sensitive question, I kinda need to know before I eat my lunch).
Guess who had Oreos for lunch??
It was all those chocolate frogs.
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This wont end well0
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TLDR
I read © 1975 and immediately stopped reading.0 -
OP - provide us with a peer reviewed study from sometime in the last 20 years showing the sugar drains micronutrients out of you, and then maybe we can have a discussion..
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Chrysalid2014 wrote: »Okay, yeah, ha ha, very funny etc... But is there anyone with some knowledge of nutrition and digestion that can comment on the validity (or otherwise) of what was written?
It's absolute bollox. My qualifications - BSc(Hons), MSc, Biochemistry
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This is the best thread of the week.0
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BAHAHA yes!cwolfman13 wrote: »
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isulo_kura wrote: »This wont end well
It didn't even begin well.0 -
right? And it's the only one flagged out of all the gifs, etc mocking the whole thing.0 -
Chrysalid2014 wrote: »Too much sugar makes one sleepy; our ability to calculate and remember is lost."
Thoughts?
So as a runner I take Gels on longer runs to give me energy. these gels are basically sugar I have never yet fallen asleep or forgotten where I'm going
Now where am I? 2+2=5. See no problems now I must go for my afternoon snooze0 -
so let me get this right OP ...you are saying that if I have hit my micronutrients for the day, and then I eat added sugar that the sugar then drains of said micros and I need to consume more to make up for them???
is that really what you are saying?
sugar, the new vampire....
Yeah, basically, I think that's what he is saying. So are you all saying that micronutrients are not actually required to digest sugar? (I'm genuinely trying to understand this.)
I found a link to a longer extract from the book, and this is another section from it:
"Sugars lack the vitamins and minerals required for their own metabolism. To be metabolized, sugars must draw on our body's stores of these nutrients. The more sugars you eat, the more vitamins and minerals you need.
It can leach B, C, D vitamins, and those minerals:
calcium, phosphorous, iron, selenium, zinc, chromium, vanadium, tin, boron, bismuth, rear earth elements etc. from our teeth, bones, and tissues.
As these are depleted, our body becomes less able to carry out other functions that require minerals and vitamins to be present: to metabolize fats and cholesterol; to convert cholesterol into bile acids for removal from our body through the stool; or to burn-off excess fats as heat or increased activity. As a result , our cholesterol level rises; our metabolic rate goes down; fats burn more slowly; gall stones are crystallizing in or liver; we feel less like exercising, and our weight is increasing. We have already started walking our way to cancer, diabetes and cardiovascular diseases."0 -
Chrysalid2014 wrote: »so let me get this right OP ...you are saying that if I have hit my micronutrients for the day, and then I eat added sugar that the sugar then drains of said micros and I need to consume more to make up for them???
is that really what you are saying?
sugar, the new vampire....
Yeah, basically, I think that's what he is saying. So are you all saying that micronutrients are not actually required to digest sugar? (I'm genuinely trying to understand this.)
I found a link to a longer extract from the book, and this is another section from it:
"Sugars lack the vitamins and minerals required for their own metabolism. To be metabolized, sugars must draw on our body's stores of these nutrients. The more sugars you eat, the more vitamins and minerals you need.
It can leach B, C, D vitamins, and those minerals:
calcium, phosphorous, iron, selenium, zinc, chromium, vanadium, tin, boron, bismuth, rear earth elements etc. from our teeth, bones, and tissues.
As these are depleted, our body becomes less able to carry out other functions that require minerals and vitamins to be present: to metabolize fats and cholesterol; to convert cholesterol into bile acids for removal from our body through the stool; or to burn-off excess fats as heat or increased activity. As a result , our cholesterol level rises; our metabolic rate goes down; fats burn more slowly; gall stones are crystallizing in or liver; we feel less like exercising, and our weight is increasing. We have already started walking our way to cancer, diabetes and cardiovascular diseases."
Well...were someone eating spoonsful of pure sugar all day, every day, he MIGHT (and I stress MIGHT) have a point.
But since generally you're eating sugar along with other ingredients that contain such minerals & nutrients, and other foods that contain them I'm not overly concerned.0
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