Hemp Protein vs Whey Protein

Lyndonbearsmommy
Lyndonbearsmommy Posts: 1,083 Member
in Food and Nutrition
I'm having difficulty getting enough protein in my diet. I was told to use hemp protein in smoothies. I did a tiny bit of research on both and it seems like a good idea. Does anyone have experience using one or both products and have any recommendations? Thanks!
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  • sbantonio
    sbantonio Posts: 161 Member
    Yes, hemp works great in my Nutribullet. I use the powdered hemp and sometimes the seeds. Good plant protein source!
  • auntstephie321
    auntstephie321 Posts: 3,586 Member
    I haven't used whey protein but I eat hemp hearts in my smoothies and sometimes plain or on yogurt. I love them, they taste delicious and add a wonderful nuttiness to foods. Great source of protein.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    I eat hemp hearts -- nice tasting. Contains a good ratio of Omega 3 to 6.
  • Sutnak
    Sutnak Posts: 227 Member
    are you sensitive to whey? yes - use hemp. no - use whey.
  • acollis1
    acollis1 Posts: 167 Member
    edited May 2015
    I like to use Sun Warrior Blend, it's Vegan and has hemp in it. I'm lactose intolerant and whey doesn't agree with me!
  • demonelle
    demonelle Posts: 12 Member
    I have a flavoured whey protein that I use when I'm out and about, and I use my hemp protein when I can be at home to make some kind of smoothie with. I wanted to stop using so much whey because I have a weird feeling it's breaking me out.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    edited May 2015
    Hemp's good but expensive. I got a sample pack 55g of reduced fat hemp heart powder from Rocky Mountain Grain Products in Canada (Hemp Hearts tm). You can get more info from hemphearts.com/ or ph 403-315-4154 or email roger@hemphearts.com . That way you can get your protein in and still keep calories lower to fit your macros. I also like Genuine Health's Fermented Vegan Proteins+. 20g of fully fermented dietary protein with very low fat & carb. Helps support healthy gut flora and immune system. genuinehealth.com/?ct=1 Too much of any one thing continually is not good and can cause sensitivities. I like to mix up my whey proteins and vegan proteins throughout the week.
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    Lats time I used Hemp I saw Leprechauns...
  • Hollywood_Porky
    Hollywood_Porky Posts: 491 Member
    TheReloader wrote: »
    are you sensitive to whey? yes - use hemp. no - use whey.

    This - hemp protein is a lower quality protein - if you have no issues using whey or a complete protein, then you should use that version over hemp.
  • Lyndonbearsmommy
    Lyndonbearsmommy Posts: 1,083 Member
    tedboosalis7 wrote: »
    TheReloader wrote: »
    are you sensitive to whey? yes - use hemp. no - use whey.

    This - hemp protein is a lower quality protein - if you have no issues using whey or a complete protein, then you should use that version over hemp.

    Thank you. I don't have any sensitivities. This is the type of info I did not find and was looking for.

    Thank you everyone for your answers and your help. I really appreciate it.
  • Camo_xxx
    Camo_xxx Posts: 1,082 Member
    tedboosalis7 wrote: »
    TheReloader wrote: »
    are you sensitive to whey? yes - use hemp. no - use whey.

    This - hemp protein is a lower quality protein - if you have no issues using whey or a complete protein, then you should use that version over hemp.

    What gauge of "quality" are you using to determine this ?
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    edited May 2015
    As with most things it depends what your goals are.
    I prefer hemp, but I'm looking at Omegas etc. in addition to making me full longer when I have a green smoothie for breakfast.
    And the hemp tastes better.
    I don't really care about the "quality" angle that most body builders talk about.
  • Camo_xxx
    Camo_xxx Posts: 1,082 Member
    I would just Like to know what metrics are being used to gauge quality.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    edited May 2015
    Camo_xxx wrote: »
    I would just Like to know what metrics are being used to gauge quality.

    http://www.bradgouthrofitness.com/high-quality-protein-vs-low-quality-protein-sources/

    maybe folks will start talking about high quality and low quality carbohydrates. o:)

    http://energyfanatics.com/2008/10/15/high-quality-carbohydrates/
  • peachyfuzzle
    peachyfuzzle Posts: 1,122 Member
    Michael190lbs wrote: »
    Lats time I used Hemp I saw Leprechauns...

    Sounds like a strange allergic reaction.
  • lovethepirk
    lovethepirk Posts: 41 Member
    I am halfway thru losing 40 pounds and eat only protein powder vs meats. I love meat, but this was my fat punishment and it turned out to be a blessing. I researched each of the amino acid profiles of the powders. Hemp and Whey are both great powders. Why fight it...USE them both and mix them. Whey is faster absorbing...hemp is slower. Fantastic combo. Hemp seems to win the better amino acid profile battle...BUT Whey has more Leucine, which is best for muscle growth. I have a great recipe for the best shake you will ever have. I do three scoops of my mixture and that is 50 grams of weight. That 50 grams is made up of the following:
    7.6 grams of Hemp 70
    12.6 grams of Whey Isolate no flavoring.
    13.6 grams of Hemp Hearts
    8.9 grams of Organic Cacao Powder
    6.3 grams of Maca Root powder
    0.6 grams of stevia powder

    (without banana)
    213 calories, 22 protein, 13 carbs, 11 fats

    I put that 50 grams into a blender with 2 cups of water and a large handful of ice. Every 4 or so shakes I will toss in a banana...makes it taste unbelievable...I'm telling you I would rather eat this then a real milk shake, and I love milk shakes.

    The polyphenols in the cacao are excellent, look up the ORAC values of the Cacao powder. I'm telling you this concoction will knock your socks off. I drink about 3 of these per day to get most of my proteins.


    I have the entire amino acid profile broken down of both hemp and whey if you want it, but just mix both whey and hemp...why debate it when they are both good.
  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    I didn't know there was such a thing as hemp protein powder. Now I would like to try it! especially if it has a nice flavor to it. right now I am using whey protein powder. It's affordable and has been working well.
  • lovethepirk
    lovethepirk Posts: 41 Member
    The omega 6-3 profile of the hemp is really good, but I have read that the fish oil, which I don't take, has the proper longer chained fatty acids instead of the shorter omega 3 chained fatty acids that the hemp provides such as alpha-Linolenic acid which does not have the longer chained omega 3's like EPA. the ALA in hemp can turn into EPA but I tune out my brain when I read that process, plus during that process some bad enzymes can occur, but that is getting to detailed....I may do the fish oil thing once I am at the weight I want. I read barry sears books in the 90s and he is into that now due to the inflammation reduction that EPA(omega 3) provides.
  • lovethepirk
    lovethepirk Posts: 41 Member
    goth...raw, non-flavored whey doesn't taste good and the same holds true for hemp. If I were to grade the taste of both alone I would side with hemp, but I mix them as shown above. The cacao powder and the stevia make them taste very good. The hemp seeds at the end of the shake add some fun. The real difference I notice with the hemp is the fullness. At first, I did only the hemp protein until I learned that whey had more leucine and I additionally thought since they are both good why not just eat them both at the same time. The price is a little in favor of whey, but if the hemp fills you up more/longer it works out. I'm 210 now 6'1 and have been eating < 2000 for a couple months with no problem at all. I eat three slices of white butterbread and 3 eggwhites in the morning, then slam a shake at 11am-ish and I have no problem going until 5pm before I even think about eating. Then I always go to sleep completely full after eating 1300 calories from 6-11pm. If I get hungry during that time, I grab a coffee or two and think about the massive amount of food I am going to clobber at night :)
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  • lovethepirk
    lovethepirk Posts: 41 Member
    Mr M,

    I don't think that is a proper evaluation. If you add up the grams on the hemp there you get around 37 grams vs 99 on the whey. I'm sure that was whey isolate vs hemp seeds or some light protein hemp powder.

    For me to eat 20 grams of protein I need to eat about 30 grams of hemp or 25 grams of whey isolate so the study should be done on only the 20 grams of protein not the total weight eaten b/c some of that is fat/fiber/carbs/etc.

    The science on this is still out there so take this for what it is...my best evaluation using averages on several isolate labels and several hemp studies.....these are per 18.5 grams of protein consumed for each....tlgajum98yt0.jpg
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  • lovethepirk
    lovethepirk Posts: 41 Member
    Mr M...your analysis is using a substrate that is 37% protein vs one that is 99%. My analysis is based on two real world products. I ingest 30 more calories for a scoop of my hemp vs whey, that is not material bc it is from the extra 3 grams of fats I am eating in the hemp which my body uses and I will not eat that elsewhere. Those calories are used they don't evaporate into thin air.

    You cannot copy and paste an analysis like you did that is a natural seed vs a products produced from milk getting you 99% clean protein. That is like analyzing a peanut vs whey protein isolate....makes zero sense.

    Here is real life...

    The FACT is I buy Hemp 70 which is 67% protein(30 gram scoop is 20 grams protein), the Jarrow Isolate I buy is 78% protein(23 gram scoop is 18 grams protein). I compare the AMOUNT of amino acids I am ingesting by basically comparing these two scoops. The calories are not material b/c regardless if you have to eat more hemp you will then eat less of something else. The extra 3 grams of fat I eat per scoop of Hemp doesn't just evaporate....the body uses it and it fills you up as well as slows the absorption rate of the carbs as well as affects hunger hormones positively.

    A proper analysis is not using a substrate that is 99% protein vs 37% protein as you did. I am using a real life substrate that is 78 vs 67% protein and is something you can purchase and mix together...it is a real life analysis.

    The fact is both proteins have pluses and minuses....the whey wins a little in the essential aminos and in leucine, while in the arginine is higher with the hemp.

    Hope that makes sense to you...I'm not chewing on raw hemp seeds here at 37% protein content.
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  • lovethepirk
    lovethepirk Posts: 41 Member
    edited May 2015
    A scoop of Hemp 70 to get 20 grams of AMINO ACIDS into your body REQUIRES you to eat 30 grams.
    A scoop of Whey Jarrow Isolate to get 20 grams of Aminos into your body REQUIRES you to eat 25.6 grams.
    To get the SAME amount of aminos from these two different products you need to eat 1 level tsp of more hemp or 4.4 grams.

    So if you make a shake of the HEMP 70 you have to consume 4.4 more grams of total weight to get the SAME amount of AMINO ACIDS into your body.

    Now....since everyone here but you realizes that 4.4 grams of extra weight is meaningless then everyone else can understand since Tom ate 20 grams of Hemp Amino Acids and Jane ate 20 grams of Whey Amino Acids it is time to analyze those different amino acids.

    My excel sheet shows the breakdown of them both.

    I hope this clearly explains to you how easy it is to eat 20 grams of amino acids in Hemp vs Whey. 4 grams may take you 10 hours to eat but for the rest of us 4 grams is a tsp.
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  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited May 2015
    I think this is the correct information on Optimum Nutrition.

    optimum-gold-standard-100-whey-amino-profile.jpg

    I'm interested in this because I supplement my protein intake with protein powder.
  • lovethepirk
    lovethepirk Posts: 41 Member
    edited May 2015
    I called you stupid b/c you are not listening. Life is tough, sometimes you need to be talked to.

    Good job finding that label...that is 30 grams of powder for 21 grams of protein just like I said. ~67% vs your ignorant post of 37% protein profile. Your gold coin formula comes in at 30 grams of powder and 24 grams of protein. Good job finding some powder with 3 extra grams of protein per 30 gram scoop. Unfortunately, I can just eat 3 extra grams of the Hemp and catch up to you. I'm also eating some decent fatty acids when I add those hard to eat 3 extra grams.

    I hope now that you see your Gold Coins are only 24 grams and the hemp is 21 grams per 30 gram scoop. For you to post an amino acid profile with 99 grams vs 37 grams was misleading to those learning and foolish.

    Like I said, I use both, b/c they are both good. You are completely forgetting the speed at which both absorb. Why would you think one is best? Some people don't want muscle growth(leucine), some people may want more nitric oxide and artery health(arginine), some people want a slower absorption, some people want enormous muscles. You are ignorant if you think Whey is the best protein. There isn't a best protein. I eat both for a reason.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited May 2015

    To me, it seems the ON has more arganine.

    Your point is moot for me in this discussion anyway, I tend to make my protein decisions on a very simple level: bang for calorie buck. I don't care about the finer points of this discussion though it interests me to learn.

    If I could have it, I'd take the ON. I can't sadly, since I have celiac disease and there are gluten cross-contamination issues in its manufacturing.
  • lovethepirk
    lovethepirk Posts: 41 Member
    Mama, MrM posted some completely misleading info and then tried to defend it. He is stating Whey is superior. It is not. It's a great protein just as Hemp is. I posted the profile breakdown above given 18.5 grams of protein ingested for each. It is accurate enough to evaluate the data.

    Let's talk calories for a second. Whey has less calories b/c it has a little more protein and less fat than hemp. That's fantastic, BUT you will need to then eat that fat after you take the Whey to feel as satisfied or maintain the same amount of bodily functions. For instance, you are a machine...you feed the machine 3 extra grams of fat hence more calories...well you can walk that machine further than the machine you feed 3 less grams of fat. It all works out in the end.....When I eat 3 extra grams of fat in the Hemp it's not like my body just throws it out or immediately stores it as fat....the body uses it and uses it effectively. I won't need to eat those 3 grams later as the Whey person. It is a mute argument on the calories. If Hemps extra 20-30 calories is too much for you then just eat 3 grams of less fat in your next meal.

    The arginine in the hemp is much higher. hope that makes sense.
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