Is MFP telling me to starve?

Chlochloyoutube
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I'm not totally sure of my current weight, but I'd estimate it at around 50-53kg, and I have 50kg as my weight in MFP. I was very happy with my body at around 43kg but I realise that this may be unrealistic, and have set 46kg as my goal, with a loss of 0.5kg/week.
The app is setting my daily calorie intake at 3700kj. This seems awfully low... Isn't this too little for anyone?
The app is setting my daily calorie intake at 3700kj. This seems awfully low... Isn't this too little for anyone?
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how tall are you? And yes that is very low...
46kg=101lbs...that is very low too.0 -
Chlochloyoutube wrote: »I'm not totally sure of my current weight, but I'd estimate it at around 50-53kg, and I have 50kg as my weight in MFP. I was very happy with my body at around 43kg but I realise that this may be unrealistic, and have set 46kg as my goal, with a loss of 0.5kg/week.
The app is setting my daily calorie intake at 3700kj. This seems awfully low... Isn't this too little for anyone?
may I suggest you weigh yourself rather than guess
and how tall are you?0 -
I'm only 4'11''. It's incredibly hard to find nutritional information for somebody my height online as NOTHING will go below a certain calorie intake.0
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Is that 900 calories? Because if so, yes, that is way to low! So if I figured your weight right with lbs, you are 110 lbs and you are aiming for 94 lbs. Is that right? How tall are you? To me 110 lbs is perfectly healthy...0
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age and height. why 46kg that sounds stupid unhealthy low0
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I'm pretty sure MFP isn't supposed to ever give you a goal below 1200 calories, so that should be a bug.0
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I'm 4'11'' and twenty-two years old. I've slowly been putting on weight to the point where I'm uncomfortable and have been rejected from modeling work multiple times due to my size. Forty-six kilos is definitely not 'stupid unhealthy low.' I've been at 37kg and THAT was low. Ideally I'd be around 42kg but I understand how hard this would be to maintain.0
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Something is not right. Can you verify that all of your measurements are entered correctly?
For that light of weight, you probably don't need to lose pounds, but rather maintain and slim down your body fat %... so that is something else to consider.
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Chlochloyoutube wrote: »I'm only 4'11''. It's incredibly hard to find nutritional information for somebody my height online as NOTHING will go below a certain calorie intake.
Umm...I just threw your info into Scooby's Workshop (22f, 4'11", 50kg, lightly active) with a 10% reduction in TDEE and it gave you a calorie goal of 1610 to lose weight and a 1789 TDEE.
You're NOT going to lose weight quickly. I'd suggest a very small deficit coupled with weightlifting.0 -
Scooby's workshop?
I had 'sedentary' selected before but changed it to 'lightly active' as I've been in the gym recently. I highly doubt I'd lose weight by eating 1610 a day, this seems like a very high goal for weight loss. =/ Most websites default to the lowest possible setting when I try to put in my details/goals.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Chlochloyoutube wrote: »I'm only 4'11''. It's incredibly hard to find nutritional information for somebody my height online as NOTHING will go below a certain calorie intake.
Umm...I just threw your info into Scooby's Workshop (22f, 4'11", 50kg, lightly active) with a 10% reduction in TDEE and it gave you a calorie goal of 1610 to lose weight and a 1789 TDEE.
You're NOT going to lose weight quickly. I'd suggest a very small deficit coupled with weightlifting.
iifym.com gives a 1600 TDEE on the Miffin-StJeor calculation.0 -
Chlochloyoutube wrote: »Scooby's workshop?
I had 'sedentary' selected before but changed it to 'lightly active' as I've been in the gym recently. I highly doubt I'd lose weight by eating 1610 a day, this seems like a very high goal for weight loss. =/
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
You'd be surprised at how much you can actually eat to lose weight. 1789 calories is your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE), i.e., how many calories you burn altogether in a single day with light activity. Exercise would make your TDEE even higher. If I change your activity level to moderate (3-5 hrs/week of moderate exercise), your TDEE rises to 2017 with 1815 calories to lose weight.
I think that if you ate a reasonable amount of calories, got enough protein, and lifted weights, you'd get the body you want, get to eat more, and be happy.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »I'm pretty sure MFP isn't supposed to ever give you a goal below 1200 calories, so that should be a bug.
This^0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Chlochloyoutube wrote: »I'm only 4'11''. It's incredibly hard to find nutritional information for somebody my height online as NOTHING will go below a certain calorie intake.
Umm...I just threw your info into Scooby's Workshop (22f, 4'11", 50kg, lightly active) with a 10% reduction in TDEE and it gave you a calorie goal of 1610 to lose weight and a 1789 TDEE.
You're NOT going to lose weight quickly. I'd suggest a very small deficit coupled with weightlifting.
iifym.com gives a 1600 TDEE on the Miffin-StJeor calculation.
Obviously these are all estimates - I like to try and use several websites' calculators and get an average
*ETA I'm pretty sure the basic Scooby's calculator uses the Harris-Benedict formula. I'd pick somewhere in between the two numbers and start there, and adjust as needed.0 -
But do those websites have a lower limit that they're hitting? I've had a lot of experiences where websites won't go below a certain calorie intake. Why is MFP setting my goal so low?0
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Chlochloyoutube wrote: »But do those websites have a lower limit that they're hitting? I've had a lot of experiences where websites won't go below a certain calorie intake. Why is MFP setting my goal so low?
Nope, that is not the minimum number of calories that they're hitting.
MFP is setting it low probably because you set it to lose 2 lbs (1 kg) per week, which wouldn't be realistic for you. More like .5-.25 kg/wk would be a better goal for you (or .5-1 lb/week). It's also a glitch in MFP's system, as normally MFP will not go under 1200 calories.
Like I said, you will not lose weight quickly, as you don't have much to lose. Be patient and don't have unreasonable expectations.0 -
All the calculators are estimates. You just need to pick a number and eat that for two to three weeks. Weigh yourself every day, then look at the trend, your weight will go up or down or staying the same. You then adjust your caloric intake depending on those results. Continue to weigh yourself every day for another week or two and check your results again as a trend. Continue this until you've lost the weight you want.0
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Even on a generic site, it is saying the following:
For sedentary:
To maintain a weight of 110 lbs. (49.9 KG). you need 1,568 calories per day (10,976 calories per week).
To lose one (1) pound per week, you must consume 1,068 calories per day (7,476 calories per week).
To lose two (2) pounds per week, you must consume 568 calories per day (3,976 calories per week;).
To eat more calories per day, yet still lose this same amount of weight, increase your activity level.
For lightly active:
To maintain a weight of 110 lbs. (49.9 KG). you need 1,797 calories per day (12,579 calories per week).
To lose one (1) pound per week, you must consume 1,297 calories per day (9,079 calories per week).
To lose two (2) pounds per week, you must consume 797 calories per day (5,579 calories per week;).
To eat more calories per day, yet still lose this same amount of weight, increase your activity level.
Source: http://www.thinandhealthyforever.com/CalorieRequirement.asp0 -
This website is telling me my BMR is under 5000kj though:
"Your estimated BMR is: 4,877 kilojoules/day*"
Due to health reasons I have a relatively sedentary lifestyle, besides standing at work. Surely I shouldn't be eating THAT much more than my BMR?0 -
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Chlochloyoutube wrote: »This website is telling me my BMR is under 5000kj though:
"Your estimated BMR is: 4,877 kilojoules/day*"
Due to health reasons I have a relatively sedentary lifestyle, besides standing at work. Surely I shouldn't be eating THAT much more than my BMR?
Your BMR is the very minimum that you'd need if you had a lifestyle similar to that of Sleeping Beauty. Your TDEE is your BMR plus the calories that you burn with normal daily activities. Most people try to eat somewhere between BMR and TDEE to lose weight.
If your TDEE is 1700 calories, and you ate 1600 calories total, and lifted weights, you could lose fat at a pretty decent pace. It might seem slow, but as I said, it's not going to happen quickly at your current weight. 1kg/week is reasonable for obese people, but not for vanity lbs.
Sorry, I'm not sure how to convert to kj, and I'm too lazy to Google the calculations right now.0 -
Chlochloyoutube wrote: »But do those websites have a lower limit that they're hitting? I've had a lot of experiences where websites won't go below a certain calorie intake. Why is MFP setting my goal so low?
MFP is not a TDEE calculator. It does not include exercise in the amount it gives you. You eat more for exercise. This is why MFP will seem lower than most other calculators. With this method you eat MFP amount + more.
TDEE means Total Daily Energy Expenditure also known as "maintenance calories". This is the amount where you would not gain or lose weight. TDEE of course fluctuates from day to day, and calculators are estimates based on your body size, age, gender. Using a TDEE method to lose weight, you would eat less than TDEE to lose weight, (but not too much). Typically 20% less for weight loss or 10-15% less if you are close to goal weight so that you don't lose too quickly.
A properly set MFP + exercise calories should be in the same ballpark as a properly set TDEE - % calorie goal.
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No need to worry about conversions, I'm pretty good with metric and imperial. Thanks for explaining that to me - I think I'm just frustrated because I'm finding weight very difficult to budge at the moment when I used to maintain 98lbs without any difficulty. I'm on different medications and stuff now though too, so I may need to chat to my doctor about those and make sure I'm counting my calories correctly.0
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Chlochloyoutube wrote: »No need to worry about conversions, I'm pretty good with metric and imperial. Thanks for explaining that to me - I think I'm just frustrated because I'm finding weight very difficult to budge at the moment when I used to maintain 98lbs without any difficulty. I'm on different medications and stuff now though too, so I may need to chat to my doctor about those and make sure I'm counting my calories correctly.
I understand, it can be confusing!
If I were you, honestly, I'd probably set my goal to around 1500 calories/week. I'd focus on getting enough protein, and I'd start lifting heavy with maybe some light cardio on rest days if I felt like it (light as in maybe 30 minutes of jogging or something). That will put you on the right track, and you'd have some wiggle room with your calories if you wanted to indulge on the weekends.
Just don't lose sight of the end goal, and remember to just be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day, and all that. Good luck!0 -
I wouldn't eat less than 1200 cal / 5000 kj if I were you. It is likely a bug that gave you 3700, it shouldn't be possible for it to suggest you less than 50000
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I'm American and all this kg and kj talk is hurting my head
With that said, I'm also 4'11 (lucky us!). MFP sets my maintenance calories at 1500 and 1250 for .5 lb loss per week (but I have more to lose than you). I also select sedentary and work my way towards another 200+ calories a day through exercise.
Here's my suggestion: switch MFP to maintenance to find out how many calories you need to stay right where you are. I assume it will be less than 1500 since you weigh less than me. Then decide how much lower you're willing to go. You may have to settle for only .25 lb loss a week since you're already so light (so you'll need only a 125 daily calorie deficit).0 -
Your height and weight definitely makes it harder to lose, because you have very little wiggle room when calculating your calories. Those TDEE calculators are just estimates, so you'll have to do a lot of experimenting to figure out what works for you. You should start eating 1400 - 1500 calories, and need to be very precise about weighing and logging every morsel (because even being off by 100 calories either way can ruin the results). Four weeks should be a good window to let you know if that limit works for you. You can then slowly adjust up or down based on your results.0
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Chlochloyoutube wrote: »I'm 4'11'' and twenty-two years old. I've slowly been putting on weight to the point where I'm uncomfortable and have been rejected from modeling work multiple times due to my size. Forty-six kilos is definitely not 'stupid unhealthy low.' I've been at 37kg and THAT was low. Ideally I'd be around 42kg but I understand how hard this would be to maintain.
My best friend is the same height is you and she is 38kg or 85lbs, she looks deathly skinny. Literally doesn't have a bit of visible body fat on her body. You need to be at least 100lbs/45kg to look healthy even at your height.0
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