Strength training, cardio, or a combo?

TminusFitnessN321
TminusFitnessN321 Posts: 58 Member
edited November 18 in Success Stories
How did you successfully lose your weight? I always hear a combo of different ways and how one way is way better than the other. What did you choose and why?

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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    edited May 2015
    I chose cardio because it is quicker and I just wanted to see the numbers in my opinion. Didn't start lifting till I got to my goal weight.

    Looking back, I would have probably lost about 75% of my weight before starting to lift, but definitely would have started lifting sooner than I did.

  • TminusFitnessN321
    TminusFitnessN321 Posts: 58 Member
    That makes sense, Hornsby.
  • jennxx7
    jennxx7 Posts: 10 Member
    I lost weight at first primarily with straight-up treadmill/elliptical cardio (with some yoga mixed in), but when it came to really losing weight, it was all about food for me. Nothing changed until I committed to the right number of calories per day.

    Once I got to a number on the scale I was happier with, I switched from almost exclusive cardio to more circuit training type stuff. That's helped given me a shape I like better, which is good since I don't weigh myself too often these days.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    edited May 2015
    Calorie deficit to lose weight (I use an IF protocol which makes adherence easier for me).

    Cardio for health, fitness, challenges/goals, enjoyment, gives more food to eat whilst maintaining a suitable calorie deficit (eat back my exercise calories).

    Weight training (a variety of methods/equipment) because I like to be strong, body composition, health (I've got quite a collection of damaged joints to maintain/support) and I also enjoy it.

    Normal routine days 3 cardio (mostly cycling) and 3 days weight training a week.
  • helenlovesruby
    helenlovesruby Posts: 39 Member
    For me it's yoga plus cycling. Stress relief plus free travel.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    I always did both. But now, i am kind of seeing cardio as pointless for weight loss. This is assuming you lift with intensity. When I did super setting with no breaks and some higher intensity cardio, I would burn roughly 1000 calories per hour. Doing just straight lifting I burn about 500 calories in 40mins. THe difference is 4 calories a minute. If I add 20mins of higher intensity cardio to my weight training this is 820 calories total. More calories burn, but.... there is a catch.

    You should be eating back your exercise calories, Yes you get a big caloric intake allowance, but when exercise is involved, hunger is proportional to exercise. e.g. the more you exercise the hungrier you get. Studies have shown this. People don't lose weight engaging in cardio vascular activity, assuming they eat whatever they want without calorie counting. If they calorie counted, they will just end up hungrier.

    Weight lifting burns calories, it also helps preserve muscle mass. Cardio, just burns calories, and has the risk of causing a loss of muscle mass. I wouldn't use it for weight loss. It's pretty pointless from my point of view.

    If you're looking for more of cardio vascular fitness, On a leg day, I'd just run intensely for 10mins or so. and cut back 1 set off my legs.

    Very much doubt you are burning 1000 cals in an hour unless you are an elite athlete!
    How are you estimating this?

    Muscle loss from cardio is highly unlikely. Much more likely from a chronic and excessive calorie deficit.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    I always did both. But now, i am kind of seeing cardio as pointless for weight loss. This is assuming you lift with intensity. When I did super setting with no breaks and some higher intensity cardio, I would burn roughly 1000 calories per hour. Doing just straight lifting I burn about 500 calories in 40mins. THe difference is 4 calories a minute. If I add 20mins of higher intensity cardio to my weight training this is 820 calories total. More calories burn, but.... there is a catch.

    You should be eating back your exercise calories, Yes you get a big caloric intake allowance, but when exercise is involved, hunger is proportional to exercise. e.g. the more you exercise the hungrier you get. Studies have shown this. People don't lose weight engaging in cardio vascular activity, assuming they eat whatever they want without calorie counting. If they calorie counted, they will just end up hungrier.

    Weight lifting burns calories, it also helps preserve muscle mass. Cardio, just burns calories, and has the risk of causing a loss of muscle mass. I wouldn't use it for weight loss. It's pretty pointless from my point of view.

    If you're looking for more of cardio vascular fitness, On a leg day, I'd just run intensely for 10mins or so. and cut back 1 set off my legs.

    Very much doubt you are burning 1000 cals in an hour unless you are an elite athlete!
    How are you estimating this?

    Muscle loss from cardio is highly unlikely. Much more likely from a chronic and excessive calorie deficit.

    It's based on my Garmin 405CX HRM. Uses my HR, My body weight, height, age, activity level to estimate calorie burned.

    Yes muscle mass loss is due to a big part of calorie deficit, but if you're eating back your calories as you're supposed to with MFP, then what's the point of doing cardio in the first place for fat loss? It already has your built in calorie deficit with out exercise. This is a point I was trying to make in my original post. If you're not eating back calories then your calorie deficit would increase putting you at greater risk for muscle loss. We also need to define cardio in this context to avoid any confusions. What i am talking about cardio, I am talking about moderate intensity for greater than 30mins. HIIT will help perserve to some extent, and "low intensity" cardio will also prevent loss of LBM.

    But there is also this study where people at 800 calories a day of mostly protein and lifted, and persevered LBM. Point being it's not so much the calorie deficit, it's the food choices and the resistance training that preserves LBM.

    You do realise there's very little correlation between HR and calorie burns for weight lifting?
    e.g. you can spike to the same high HR doing light weight arm exercise as you can when lifting really heavy with big compound lifts.

    I don't/didn't do cardio for fat loss or to create a calorie deficit as I stated in my post. My cardio is from one to six+ hours, intensity to suit my fitness/training goals and the particular event.
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  • griffithm1
    griffithm1 Posts: 130 Member
    combo
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