Every time I work out I hurt myself...help please
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theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
Sit bones, as in the body parts they ask you to make sure is on the ground before doing a seated twist? What exactly have these "sit bones" you heard about done to you? Every yoga class you went to forced "yoga culture" on you? That's all that's out there? Knowing that there's other options out there, a person that's frightened about "yoga culture" can't call ahead and ask a few questions so they kind of know what to expect?
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theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
Sit bones, as in the body parts they ask you to make sure is on the ground before doing a seated twist? What exactly have these "sit bones" you heard about done to you? Every yoga class you went to forced "yoga culture" on you? That's all that's out there? Knowing that there's other options out there, a person that's frightened about "yoga culture" can't call ahead and ask a few questions so they kind of know what to expect?
Sure they can. And yes, every yoga class I've been to (excepting one at the YMCA) has carried with it a particular atmosphere and a particular demographic. OP's posting style is pretty straight up, I can see it maybe not being a fit.
Sit bones = pelvis, why can't they just say pelvis? I've never heard anyone call the ischial tuberosity "sit bones" except for yoga instructors.0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
Sit bones, as in the body parts they ask you to make sure is on the ground before doing a seated twist? What exactly have these "sit bones" you heard about done to you? Every yoga class you went to forced "yoga culture" on you? That's all that's out there? Knowing that there's other options out there, a person that's frightened about "yoga culture" can't call ahead and ask a few questions so they kind of know what to expect?
Sure they can. And yes, every yoga class I've been to (excepting one at the YMCA) has carried with it a particular atmosphere and a particular demographic. OP's posting style is pretty straight up, I can see it maybe not being a fit.
Sit bones = pelvis, why can't they just say pelvis? I've never heard anyone call the ischial tuberosity "sit bones" except for yoga instructors.
Well the particular atmosphere - of course. Why didn't you just say so0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
Sit bones, as in the body parts they ask you to make sure is on the ground before doing a seated twist? What exactly have these "sit bones" you heard about done to you? Every yoga class you went to forced "yoga culture" on you? That's all that's out there? Knowing that there's other options out there, a person that's frightened about "yoga culture" can't call ahead and ask a few questions so they kind of know what to expect?
Sure they can. And yes, every yoga class I've been to (excepting one at the YMCA) has carried with it a particular atmosphere and a particular demographic. OP's posting style is pretty straight up, I can see it maybe not being a fit.
Sit bones = pelvis, why can't they just say pelvis? I've never heard anyone call the ischial tuberosity "sit bones" except for yoga instructors.
Well the particular atmosphere - of course. Why didn't you just say so
It's just that not everyone is going to feel entirely comfortable there, is what I'm saying. Yoga is a useful discipline, though.
Actually - there's one place in my area, which I haven't yet been to, that does a pay what you can thing instead of asking for $20 a class, and also allows people to barter time for classes. (OP this is a for-real hippie place, though). It sounds ok to me. Maybe there's something like that near you.0 -
I found a physiotherapist through word-of-mouth and Facebook, and she's excellent (if by any teeny tiny slim chance you reside in Wiltshire, England, happy to give you her name). £30 for an hour, and after the initial assessment and VERY PAINFUL muscle release thing she did, she focused on giving me the tools to improve on my own (proper warm ups, stretches, a foam rolling demo) rather than keep me coming back for more sessions and spending more money. I appreciate your issues are more complex and serious than mine was, however, so yours will probably require more sessions.
I would definitely seek someone out based on positive referrals from other clients.0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
Sit bones, as in the body parts they ask you to make sure is on the ground before doing a seated twist? What exactly have these "sit bones" you heard about done to you? Every yoga class you went to forced "yoga culture" on you? That's all that's out there? Knowing that there's other options out there, a person that's frightened about "yoga culture" can't call ahead and ask a few questions so they kind of know what to expect?
Sure they can. And yes, every yoga class I've been to (excepting one at the YMCA) has carried with it a particular atmosphere and a particular demographic. OP's posting style is pretty straight up, I can see it maybe not being a fit.
Sit bones = pelvis, why can't they just say pelvis? I've never heard anyone call the ischial tuberosity "sit bones" except for yoga instructors.
Because- sometimes an image is better than the mechanical definition.
secondly- you aren't grounding your WHOLE pelvis to the floor- you're literally grounding the two points that you sit on to the floor.
they are just the two bottom bones of your pelvis- don't over think it. yoga has it's place- even the relaxed "grounding" yoga- not everything has to be impossibly hard.0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
It's generally considered poor etiquette to ask for advice and then insult the people who give you advice.
This would be true if the person had actually offered real advice, rather than suggesting vague, condescending generalities that OP obviously already knew.
So, according to you, she already knows the answer and is willfully acting against that knowledge?
According to YOU, there was no real knowledge offered.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Also, are you ever going to contribute to the OP's issue or are you only here to comment on what I contribute? Two posts from you in this thread, both about me with nothing regarding the OP's issue.
And still more helpful than you. Go find somewhere else to troll.
It's funny how anybody who doesn't give you the digital equivalent of coddling gets accused of trolling by you ... accompanied by your attacks. You keep thanking people who recommend you attempt more videos and books after you've conceded those don't work for you. You refer to "beast mode" and getting into a "zone" where you are inattentive to what you're doing yet haven't addressed the lack of self discipline leading to that state. Rather than paying attention to what you need to hear, you lash out when you don't hear what you want as a response. You started the petulant responses early in the thread and directed them at several people. You make accusations of trolling and butthurt when the only posts demonstrating such behavior are yours.0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
It's generally considered poor etiquette to ask for advice and then insult the people who give you advice.
This would be true if the person had actually offered real advice, rather than suggesting vague, condescending generalities that OP obviously already knew.
So, according to you, she already knows the answer and is willfully acting against that knowledge?
According to YOU, there was no real knowledge offered.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Also, are you ever going to contribute to the OP's issue or are you only here to comment on what I contribute? Two posts from you in this thread, both about me with nothing regarding the OP's issue.
And still more helpful than you. Go find somewhere else to troll.
It's funny how anybody who doesn't give you the digital equivalent of coddling gets accused of trolling by you ... accompanied by your attacks. You keep thanking people who recommend you attempt more videos and books after you've conceded those don't work for you. You refer to "beast mode" and getting into a "zone" where you are inattentive to what you're doing yet haven't addressed the lack of self discipline leading to that state. Rather than paying attention to what you need to hear, you lash out when you don't hear what you want as a response. You started the petulant responses early in the thread and directed them at several people. You make accusations of trolling and butthurt when the only posts demonstrating such behavior are yours.
People in beast mode usually don't get hurt. We must have different definition for beast mode.
I pointed that out a yesterday too. We are not the ones butthurt.
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theutahdesertfox wrote: »scorpiophoenix wrote: »If you can find it I absolutely love YogaZone Yoga for Beginners dvd. It's only about an hour, but he gives 4 different difficulty levels for each pose and manages to be both relaxing and motivating. I sit on my butt all day and avoided P.E like the plague ALL through school and even I can do it.
It doesn't matter if you're flexible or not; like the man says "just go as far as you can, you will get better with practice".
I'll look into it! The only yoga I enjoy is at home video yoga Thanks!
No problemo.
Yeah, it definitely helps to relax without other people around. lol 0 -
Wow- just read through this whole crazy thread. Lots of good info and advice here (even if you have to sift through some other stuff too).
My advice- start with planks and plank variations to strengthen your core. They are great exercise and are unlikely to cause injury.0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
OP - physiotherapists are the way forward. I don't use my insurance (used it up; also have a lot of MSK issues) - I pay $75 Canadian dollars (remember there's an exchange rate), and it was $120 for the consult. Sometimes, I've gone every 2 or 3 weeks instead of every week (which is what I needed), but I still got a benefit from the exercise prescription.
Try to get a recommendation. My current physio is amazing and got my foot back to a decent level of functioning after years of not being able to walk for longer than 10 minutes. I found her at a highly recommended sports medicine clinic that treats athletes. She's up on all the latest techniques, very smart, very skilled.
I've also had two less good physiotherapists who were more used to working with non-athletes. At one place, they'd just set me up with exercises and walk away to the next patient ten minutes into my appointment. Bad place. You want their focus on you for your 40-60 minutes. Just takes research. Think "athletes". It will cost a bit more.
The good physio really made a HUGE impact on my quality of life.
This was reassuring to read. I'm currently figuring out a budget and will be calling around to a few in the area at the start of next week. Thank you so much!!0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
Sit bones, as in the body parts they ask you to make sure is on the ground before doing a seated twist? What exactly have these "sit bones" you heard about done to you? Every yoga class you went to forced "yoga culture" on you? That's all that's out there? Knowing that there's other options out there, a person that's frightened about "yoga culture" can't call ahead and ask a few questions so they kind of know what to expect?
Sure they can. And yes, every yoga class I've been to (excepting one at the YMCA) has carried with it a particular atmosphere and a particular demographic. OP's posting style is pretty straight up, I can see it maybe not being a fit.
Sit bones = pelvis, why can't they just say pelvis? I've never heard anyone call the ischial tuberosity "sit bones" except for yoga instructors.
hahhahah yes! I'm an EMT and "sit bones" just.....yeah. And it's the "breathe into your arms" or whatever, I have absoultely no idea what that means. I tried an introduction to yoga course and that's when they filled me up full of info on asanas, hatha, vinyasa and other words I didn't really care to learn--I wanted to stretch, geez. You know? I am VERY blunt and straightforward, I have a Swede mentality, so yoga is definitely not a fit for me. I have no idea how that came across so offensive but I appreciate that at least you seemed to understand.0 -
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Wow- just read through this whole crazy thread. Lots of good info and advice here (even if you have to sift through some other stuff too).
My advice- start with planks and plank variations to strengthen your core. They are great exercise and are unlikely to cause injury.
This is good advice! I've been wondering what to do while I wait to get an appointment with a physiotherapist, and my conclusion was just keep doing cardio, and do a looooooooot of planks!
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theutahdesertfox wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
Sit bones, as in the body parts they ask you to make sure is on the ground before doing a seated twist? What exactly have these "sit bones" you heard about done to you? Every yoga class you went to forced "yoga culture" on you? That's all that's out there? Knowing that there's other options out there, a person that's frightened about "yoga culture" can't call ahead and ask a few questions so they kind of know what to expect?
Sure they can. And yes, every yoga class I've been to (excepting one at the YMCA) has carried with it a particular atmosphere and a particular demographic. OP's posting style is pretty straight up, I can see it maybe not being a fit.
Sit bones = pelvis, why can't they just say pelvis? I've never heard anyone call the ischial tuberosity "sit bones" except for yoga instructors.
hahhahah yes! I'm an EMT and "sit bones" just.....yeah. And it's the "breathe into your arms" or whatever, I have absoultely no idea what that means. I tried an introduction to yoga course and that's when they filled me up full of info on asanas, hatha, vinyasa and other words I didn't really care to learn--I wanted to stretch, geez. You know? I am VERY blunt and straightforward, I have a Swede mentality, so yoga is definitely not a fit for me. I have no idea how that came across so offensive but I appreciate that at least you seemed to understand.
I'm not going to re-read the thread, but I don't see where anyone else has indicated this huge offense with your thoughts about yoga other than you, while using words like dirty hippie, no less. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. But you're stating conclusions having by your own admission only experienced very little of it. I do agree it wouldn't be a good fit for you if you're going to nitpick their verbiage or not put in the effort to find a basic kind of class that doesn't have all the extras
I've not even done yoga regularly in like a year. I think the gym owner dragged me into a class like six months ago. I think some of the responses you're getting have more to do with spreading assumptions and ignorance on any subject at all, rather than yoga specifically
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theutahdesertfox wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
Sit bones, as in the body parts they ask you to make sure is on the ground before doing a seated twist? What exactly have these "sit bones" you heard about done to you? Every yoga class you went to forced "yoga culture" on you? That's all that's out there? Knowing that there's other options out there, a person that's frightened about "yoga culture" can't call ahead and ask a few questions so they kind of know what to expect?
Sure they can. And yes, every yoga class I've been to (excepting one at the YMCA) has carried with it a particular atmosphere and a particular demographic. OP's posting style is pretty straight up, I can see it maybe not being a fit.
Sit bones = pelvis, why can't they just say pelvis? I've never heard anyone call the ischial tuberosity "sit bones" except for yoga instructors.
hahhahah yes! I'm an EMT and "sit bones" just.....yeah. And it's the "breathe into your arms" or whatever, I have absoultely no idea what that means. I tried an introduction to yoga course and that's when they filled me up full of info on asanas, hatha, vinyasa and other words I didn't really care to learn--I wanted to stretch, geez. You know? I am VERY blunt and straightforward, I have a Swede mentality, so yoga is definitely not a fit for me. I have no idea how that came across so offensive but I appreciate that at least you seemed to understand.
I'm not going to re-read the thread, but I don't see where anyone else has indicated this huge offense with your thoughts about yoga other than you, while using words like dirty hippie, no less. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. But you're stating conclusions having by your own admission only experienced very little of it. I do agree it wouldn't be a good fit for you if you're going to nitpick their verbiage or not put in the effort to find a basic kind of class that doesn't have all the extras
I've not even done yoga regularly in like a year. I think the gym owner dragged me into a class like six months ago. I think some of the responses you're getting have more to do with spreading assumptions and ignorance on any subject at all, rather than yoga specifically
Excuse me? Can you be more explicit, please? I'm not sure I can understand any reason to make veiled, blanket aspersions on any participant in this thread.0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
OP - physiotherapists are the way forward. I don't use my insurance (used it up; also have a lot of MSK issues) - I pay $75 Canadian dollars (remember there's an exchange rate), and it was $120 for the consult. Sometimes, I've gone every 2 or 3 weeks instead of every week (which is what I needed), but I still got a benefit from the exercise prescription.
Try to get a recommendation. My current physio is amazing and got my foot back to a decent level of functioning after years of not being able to walk for longer than 10 minutes. I found her at a highly recommended sports medicine clinic that treats athletes. She's up on all the latest techniques, very smart, very skilled.
I've also had two less good physiotherapists who were more used to working with non-athletes. At one place, they'd just set me up with exercises and walk away to the next patient ten minutes into my appointment. Bad place. You want their focus on you for your 40-60 minutes. Just takes research. Think "athletes". It will cost a bit more.
The good physio really made a HUGE impact on my quality of life.
This was reassuring to read. I'm currently figuring out a budget and will be calling around to a few in the area at the start of next week. Thank you so much!!
Glad it helped, and good luck!0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »SherryTeach wrote: »Well, philosophical aspect of yoga is a lot about self-awareness, giving up judgment, accepting, learning not to overthink. It's not a hippie thing.
People sure don't like it when I criticize yoga. The deal is, it's eastern medicine, and has strong religious and philosophical ties, it's not just stretching. As I've said before, in yoga class I've been given dirty looks for not 'ohm'ing and saying my mantras. I find the idea of mantras unnecessary. And while I think meditation has a ton of benefits, I don't like mixing my meditation with my workout.
So maybe don't think that when I say, I'm not a hippie and I don't like yoga, that I'm saying "ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES." I don't even mind hippies and wouldn't use it as a negative word, but that's how it's being taken.
tl;dr I don't like yoga, don't get offended that I don't like yoga.
We're just pointing out that feeling like you got run out of a yoga class does not mean you're well educated on the subject. As in, I've never attended a class where I was asked to "ohm" and probably wouldn't return to one. You may not be interested in returning to an instructor led class but your sweeping assumptions are just a tad bizarre. It's like I almost can't tell if the above was written by an expert or someone asking questions - which is it?
janeiR36, I've appreciated every post of yours I've ever seen, except for this one. Yoga culture exists. I've never had to "ohm" either, but I've heard a lot of talk about "sit bones". There is definitely a particular vibe, it might just not be for OP.
Sit bones, as in the body parts they ask you to make sure is on the ground before doing a seated twist? What exactly have these "sit bones" you heard about done to you? Every yoga class you went to forced "yoga culture" on you? That's all that's out there? Knowing that there's other options out there, a person that's frightened about "yoga culture" can't call ahead and ask a few questions so they kind of know what to expect?
Sure they can. And yes, every yoga class I've been to (excepting one at the YMCA) has carried with it a particular atmosphere and a particular demographic. OP's posting style is pretty straight up, I can see it maybe not being a fit.
Sit bones = pelvis, why can't they just say pelvis? I've never heard anyone call the ischial tuberosity "sit bones" except for yoga instructors.
hahhahah yes! I'm an EMT and "sit bones" just.....yeah. And it's the "breathe into your arms" or whatever, I have absoultely no idea what that means. I tried an introduction to yoga course and that's when they filled me up full of info on asanas, hatha, vinyasa and other words I didn't really care to learn--I wanted to stretch, geez. You know? I am VERY blunt and straightforward, I have a Swede mentality, so yoga is definitely not a fit for me. I have no idea how that came across so offensive but I appreciate that at least you seemed to understand.
I'm not going to re-read the thread, but I don't see where anyone else has indicated this huge offense with your thoughts about yoga other than you, while using words like dirty hippie, no less. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. But you're stating conclusions having by your own admission only experienced very little of it. I do agree it wouldn't be a good fit for you if you're going to nitpick their verbiage or not put in the effort to find a basic kind of class that doesn't have all the extras
I've not even done yoga regularly in like a year. I think the gym owner dragged me into a class like six months ago. I think some of the responses you're getting have more to do with spreading assumptions and ignorance on any subject at all, rather than yoga specifically
When I say I have little experience, I mean that in relation to people who go to yoga regularly. With all due respect, you have no idea what I have or have not done in regards to trying out yoga. Which would put you as the assumption-maker in that regard. I've been to a total of five different centers in my general area (I live in a CRUNCHY, GRANOLA, neighborhood--yoga studios all over the place, but let me guess, those words are offensive too??) and I won't even go into how much money I wasted, when the classes are anywhere from 10-20 dollars a pop.
It became apparent to me that I was not part of that CULTURE (which exists) and when I looked at the instructors for help, I got none, and when I looked at them like they were nuts because they lit candles and told me to OHMMM, I realized then that I should have just put my wallet over the candle flame and burned up the money for all the good it did me.
I will repeat this again since you can't seem to fathom it....I don't like yoga culture and philosophy. I want to stretch my body. I do not want to do anything extra. Does that make sense? I want a stretching routine. Yoga is more than that, in many many places and to many many instructors.
And thanks. I won't be doing it. At all. Pretty sure I stated that originally; yoga is not for me. Now can we move on?0
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