calorie deficit
brockbennett1981
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Ok im very confussed, on here it says i can eat 1920 calories a day, so if i understand rite thats not enough too lose weight. Am i rite? Anyone know how many calories is burned in a single day? I dont think i have enough time in day too burn that much on a treadmill lol, my diary is open, thanks for help
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What? Everyone has a different total daily expenditure, it's based on heigh/weight/activity level. I don't know your stats. Is that a 2 lb per week goal for you?
You don't need to BURN 1920. You need to eat that much.0 -
You're wrong
I could lose weight as a 5'8, 160lb female eating 2000 calories, my TDEE is around 2300
That 1920 calories is without exercise, if you exercise you eat those calories as well0 -
I was thinking i gotta burn more rhan i eat, thats how i read it, am i wrong0
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brockbennett1981 wrote: »I was thinking i gotta burn more rhan i eat, thats how i read it, am i wrong
You have to eat less than you burn. MFP takes that into consideration and gives you a number to eat. Just do that.0 -
brockbennett1981 wrote: »I was thinking i gotta burn more rhan i eat, thats how i read it, am i wrong
Yes you read it wrong
MFP gives you a calorie count based on your life without exercise
It's your minimum calories to eat based on your height, weight, activity level excluding exercise and stated weight loss goal per week
I'd fix your logging though ..you need to weigh foods like peanut butter not use spoons or cup, you should weigh everything and never choose homemade entries from the database
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brockbennett1981 wrote: »I was thinking i gotta burn more rhan i eat, thats how i read it, am i wrong
Yes you read it wrong
MFP gives you a calorie count based on your life without exercise
It's your minimum calories to eat based on your height, weight, activity level excluding exercise and stated weight loss goal per week
I'd fix your logging though ..you need to weigh foods like peanut butter not use spoons or cup, you should weigh everything and never choose homemade entries from the database
Read original post in calorie counting 101 stickie at the top
I do weigh stuff, i hardley ever eat the peanut butter had today0 -
arditarose wrote: »brockbennett1981 wrote: »I was thinking i gotta burn more rhan i eat, thats how i read it, am i wrong
You have to eat less than you burn. MFP takes that into consideration and gives you a number to eat. Just do that.
Ok thanks, so if i stay around that number i shld be fine0 -
brockbennett1981 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »brockbennett1981 wrote: »I was thinking i gotta burn more rhan i eat, thats how i read it, am i wrong
You have to eat less than you burn. MFP takes that into consideration and gives you a number to eat. Just do that.
Ok thanks, so if i stay around that number i shld be fine
Yeah but you aren't around that number. I'm seeing 1300, 1400 calories per day. That is not right for a man. Eat.0 -
It might help to know your height and current weight.
I'm only 5'3" and I can easily burn 2000 calories in a day. But I eat around 1400-1700 in order to lose weight. If you are tall and/or heavier, then you could easily burn 2500 or more calories in a day without even trying. Your body uses calories constantly just to keep you alive...your heart beating, your muscles moving, your brain thinking...all that burns calories. When you move more, you burn more calories. So to lose weight, you just need to eat fewer calories than you burn.0 -
arditarose wrote: »brockbennett1981 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »brockbennett1981 wrote: »I was thinking i gotta burn more rhan i eat, thats how i read it, am i wrong
You have to eat less than you burn. MFP takes that into consideration and gives you a number to eat. Just do that.
Ok thanks, so if i stay around that number i shld be fine
Yeah but you aren't around that number. I'm seeing 1300, 1400 calories per day. That is not right for a man. Eat.
But shld i eat if not hungry anymore0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It might help to know your height and current weight.
I'm only 5'3" and I can easily burn 2000 calories in a day. But I eat around 1400-1700 in order to lose weight. If you are tall and/or heavier, then you could easily burn 2500 or more calories in a day without even trying. Your body uses calories constantly just to keep you alive...your heart beating, your muscles moving, your brain thinking...all that burns calories. When you move more, you burn more calories. So to lose weight, you just need to eat fewer calories than you burn.
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MFP includes the calorie deficit in their calculation, so the # they gave you is what you could eat and lose weight.0
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missomgitsica wrote: »MFP includes the calorie deficit in their calculation, so the # they gave you is what you could eat and lose weight.
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You do realize that your body burns calories just existing right? And you know you need to eat to fuel your vital functions (digesting food, pumping blood, breathing, etc.) right? Because from what you're saying it seems like you think that you need to burn off everything you eat to lose weight, which is not even close to being true.0
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I'm 5.7 and 230 lbs and I eat 2400 a day and lose weight. If I just want to stay the same weight I could eat 2900 calories a day. If I exercise for an hour and burn 500 then I'm allowed to eat the 2900 a day and still lose. Does that make sense? You are a guy same height as me and a few lbs more so there's no way that 1920 calories is too much food for you to lose. Even if you lay in bed all day and don't move you will lose on that many calories a day!0
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I'm 5.7 and 230 lbs and I eat 2400 a day and lose weight. If I just want to stay the same weight I could eat 2900 calories a day. If I exercise for an hour and burn 500 then I'm allowed to eat the 2900 a day and still lose. Does that make sense? You are a guy same height as me and a few lbs more so there's no way that 1920 calories is too much food for you to lose. Even if you lay in bed all day and don't move you will lose on that many calories a day!0
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brockbennett1981 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »brockbennett1981 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »brockbennett1981 wrote: »I was thinking i gotta burn more rhan i eat, thats how i read it, am i wrong
You have to eat less than you burn. MFP takes that into consideration and gives you a number to eat. Just do that.
Ok thanks, so if i stay around that number i shld be fine
Yeah but you aren't around that number. I'm seeing 1300, 1400 calories per day. That is not right for a man. Eat.
But shld i eat if not hungry anymore
Only if you want your workouts to be worth the effort you are putting in to them.
Or eventually it'll feel like you are putting alot in to them - but you really aren't - because your body is just plain tired, so you'll get very little out of them.
And to correct a few of the comments above, though a few said it correctly.
MFP guessed your daily burn by means of your sleeping calorie burn (BMR) and the non-exercise daily activity level YOU selected.
Did you select sedentary?
Do you really have a 45 hr weekly desk job/commute with no kids/pets after work and playing computer games on the weekend?
Then you are sedentary.
And no matter what your daily activity is - once you exercise with that lifting you are doing more than they did the math with - so you eat more.
If MFP thought you'd burn 2500 with no exercise and took off 500 for 1 lb weekly loss, so you eat 2000.
And then you burn 300 in a workout, you burned 2800 that day, 500 off is now eating 2300 that day.
Same deficit, same weight loss, and you fed your workout so it actually has some chance for improvement.
So only on rest days will you eat the initial number you saw from MFP.
Log your lifting as Strength training in the cardio database - it may seem small, but that's true, and it counts.0 -
brockbennett1981 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It might help to know your height and current weight.
I'm only 5'3" and I can easily burn 2000 calories in a day. But I eat around 1400-1700 in order to lose weight. If you are tall and/or heavier, then you could easily burn 2500 or more calories in a day without even trying. Your body uses calories constantly just to keep you alive...your heart beating, your muscles moving, your brain thinking...all that burns calories. When you move more, you burn more calories. So to lose weight, you just need to eat fewer calories than you burn.
5-7. 252
So that means that if you have a desk job and are sedentary and don't exercise, your body would need around 2700 calories just to maintain your current weight and all your bodily functions. If you have an active job like server or anything with a lot of walking or being on your feet, you need more. If you exercise, you need more. So if you eat 1400 calories, then you have a deficit of 1300 calories every day. That's rather aggressive.
1500 calories is the minimum recommended for men because if you go below that you will have a very difficult time meeting your micronutrient requirements (vitamins and minerals). But many people don't eat enough variety to meet those anyway.
However, consider this: Keeping such an aggressive calorie deficit will cause your body to make several changes besides just losing weight.
1. You will lose muscle along with the fat. Eating high protein can help mitigate this, but what helps more is to keep a more reasonable calorie deficit. It's slower, yes, but it's safer, less stressful for your body, and will cause you to lose less muscle mass.
2. Your metabolism will decline. It will decline anyway as you lose weight...a 200 lb man doesn't burn as many calories as a 250 lb man. But if you lose muscle mass, then your metabolism will decline more than if you lose body fat, as muscle burns calories and fat does not. It's not a huge difference, but it is a difference that can help you lose and maintain in the future.
3. If you lose weight too fast, your skin will not have time to recover elasticity and will sag. Losing slowly will prevent loose skin.
4. Eating very low calories can cause gallstones and you will have to get your gallbladder removed surgically. This is one of the most common side effects of aggressive dieting and/or eating disorders. I've been there, and it's not fun.
5. Those with aggressive calorie deficits are much more likely to end up bingeing and/or giving up.
So I hope you'll put some thought into increasing your calories to a reasonable deficit in order to lose slowly and steadily and maintain your lean mass.
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I am 5'2 and lately this last three weeks I haven't. Lost a thing. I logg everything I eat. I am discouraged but still hanging in there. The last three weeks I haven't been able do any exercise. I have had a health problem and the doctor said to take it easy. It was a serious problem. Do you think that could be why I am not losing.0
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forgtmenot wrote: »You do realize that your body burns calories just existing right? And you know you need to eat to fuel your vital functions (digesting food, pumping blood, breathing, etc.) right? Because from what you're saying it seems like you think that you need to burn off everything you eat to lose weight, which is not even close to being true.
Yea i didnt know at first, im new too all this0 -
Camarose79 wrote: »I'm 5.7 and 230 lbs and I eat 2400 a day and lose weight. If I just want to stay the same weight I could eat 2900 calories a day. If I exercise for an hour and burn 500 then I'm allowed to eat the 2900 a day and still lose. Does that make sense? You are a guy same height as me and a few lbs more so there's no way that 1920 calories is too much food for you to lose. Even if you lay in bed all day and don't move you will lose on that many calories a day!
Ok, im just new too this thanks for info,0 -
brockbennett1981 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »brockbennett1981 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »brockbennett1981 wrote: »I was thinking i gotta burn more rhan i eat, thats how i read it, am i wrong
You have to eat less than you burn. MFP takes that into consideration and gives you a number to eat. Just do that.
Ok thanks, so if i stay around that number i shld be fine
Yeah but you aren't around that number. I'm seeing 1300, 1400 calories per day. That is not right for a man. Eat.
But shld i eat if not hungry anymore
Only if you want your workouts to be worth the effort you are putting in to them.
Or eventually it'll feel like you are putting alot in to them - but you really aren't - because your body is just plain tired, so you'll get very little out of them.
And to correct a few of the comments above, though a few said it correctly.
MFP guessed your daily burn by means of your sleeping calorie burn (BMR) and the non-exercise daily activity level YOU selected.
Did you select sedentary?
Do you really have a 45 hr weekly desk job/commute with no kids/pets after work and playing computer games on the weekend?
Then you are sedentary.
And no matter what your daily activity is - once you exercise with that lifting you are doing more than they did the math with - so you eat more.
If MFP thought you'd burn 2500 with no exercise and took off 500 for 1 lb weekly loss, so you eat 2000.
And then you burn 300 in a workout, you burned 2800 that day, 500 off is now eating 2300 that day.
Same deficit, same weight loss, and you fed your workout so it actually has some chance for improvement.
So only on rest days will you eat the initial number you saw from MFP.
Log your lifting as Strength training in the cardio database - it may seem small, but that's true, and it counts.
No i dont have a desk job i have a 72 hr a week milrite job in a steel mill, so is my stuff set wrong?0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »brockbennett1981 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It might help to know your height and current weight.
I'm only 5'3" and I can easily burn 2000 calories in a day. But I eat around 1400-1700 in order to lose weight. If you are tall and/or heavier, then you could easily burn 2500 or more calories in a day without even trying. Your body uses calories constantly just to keep you alive...your heart beating, your muscles moving, your brain thinking...all that burns calories. When you move more, you burn more calories. So to lose weight, you just need to eat fewer calories than you burn.
5-7. 252
So that means that if you have a desk job and are sedentary and don't exercise, your body would need around 2700 calories just to maintain your current weight and all your bodily functions. If you have an active job like server or anything with a lot of walking or being on your feet, you need more. If you exercise, you need more. So if you eat 1400 calories, then you have a deficit of 1300 calories every day. That's rather aggressive.
1500 calories is the minimum recommended for men because if you go below that you will have a very difficult time meeting your micronutrient requirements (vitamins and minerals). But many people don't eat enough variety to meet those anyway.
However, consider this: Keeping such an aggressive calorie deficit will cause your body to make several changes besides just losing weight.
1. You will lose muscle along with the fat. Eating high protein can help mitigate this, but what helps more is to keep a more reasonable calorie deficit. It's slower, yes, but it's safer, less stressful for your body, and will cause you to lose less muscle mass.
2. Your metabolism will decline. It will decline anyway as you lose weight...a 200 lb man doesn't burn as many calories as a 250 lb man. But if you lose muscle mass, then your metabolism will decline more than if you lose body fat, as muscle burns calories and fat does not. It's not a huge difference, but it is a difference that can help you lose and maintain in the future.
3. If you lose weight too fast, your skin will not have time to recover elasticity and will sag. Losing slowly will prevent loose skin.
4. Eating very low calories can cause gallstones and you will have to get your gallbladder removed surgically. This is one of the most common side effects of aggressive dieting and/or eating disorders. I've been there, and it's not fun.
5. Those with aggressive calorie deficits are much more likely to end up bingeing and/or giving up.
So I hope you'll put some thought into increasing your calories to a reasonable deficit in order to lose slowly and steadily and maintain your lean mass.
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Thanks all of you for info0
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72 hr a week job on your feet moving heavy stuff. You are easily at the Very Active level then - no where near sedentary.
You might feel that way coming home and crashing, but on average for the waking part of the day - well above it.
And if you aren't eating enough with heavy work, I really doubt you could have the energy left to really get a good workout in.
If it didn't seem like your prior eating level was still causing you to gain weight, you could skip the whole food logging and merely find a real 250-500 calories in current diet that you do not eat daily.
May be as simple as not drinking a sugar drink of 44 ozs daily. Or not eating fries with a burger, or not munching on a bag of chips while watching TV, or eating 1 portion of desert instead of 2.
You could likely find 250 easy to leave out.
Then do your weight lifting when you can, and if that is more than what you did while maintaining weight, you just created another deficit.
Little from food, little from exercise.
Which is what the whole mantra of eat less and move more means.
Not an extreme amount less while doing an extreme amount more. Just a little of both goes a long way.0 -
72 hr a week job on your feet moving heavy stuff. You are easily at the Very Active level then - no where near sedentary.
You might feel that way coming home and crashing, but on average for the waking part of the day - well above it.
And if you aren't eating enough with heavy work, I really doubt you could have the energy left to really get a good workout in.
If it didn't seem like your prior eating level was still causing you to gain weight, you could skip the whole food logging and merely find a real 250-500 calories in current diet that you do not eat daily.
May be as simple as not drinking a sugar drink of 44 ozs daily. Or not eating fries with a burger, or not munching on a bag of chips while watching TV, or eating 1 portion of desert instead of 2.
You could likely find 250 easy to leave out.
Then do your weight lifting when you can, and if that is more than what you did while maintaining weight, you just created another deficit.
Little from food, little from exercise.
Which is what the whole mantra of eat less and move more means.
Not an extreme amount less while doing an extreme amount more. Just a little of both goes a long way.
Ok i understand, sounds good thanks0
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